Current Events > U.S. nationalism is so stupid

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This land was literally stolen and then built on the backs of one exploited working class group after another, what exactly is there to be proud of or think it's only for your kind and only yours to defend?

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Is flying the national flag everywhere common in other countries like it is here? I feel like the majority of the time, these people are showing off how "patriotic" they are to other Americans. I

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KStateKing17 posted...

flying the national flag everywhere common in other countries like it is here?

I think it's a thing in the U.K but not as much as here

KStateKing17 posted...

I feel like the majority of the time, these people are showing off how "patriotic" they are to other Americans.

They're brainwashed by the myth of American Exceptionalism and that ties into the whole nationalism and hardcore patriotism


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'Murica! Wooooo!

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ZombiePelican posted...

This land was literally stolen and then built on the backs of one exploited working class group after another, what exactly is there to be proud of or think it's only for your kind and only yours to defend?

you realize native americans utilized slaves too right? im not condoning slavery before you cry racist! but youre calling out the american settlers while turning a blind eye to other native cultures doing the same exact thing lol. just because the whites did it on a larger scale doesnt get you off the hook. they had the technological advantage which is totally arbitrary and not malevolence.

the natives also raided other tribes and stole their lands and women. lets ignore that too

also nothing wrong with a little nationalism. i personally dont fall under that patriotic category but if you wanna proudly wave your flag go ahead. if that offends you you got some serious issues to work out. this nation survived this long tolerating others and letting others express their beliefs. its people like you with their sheer intolerance that is making this country sterile by the day with their overly pc garbage takes.

Waving a flag is silly. If you love your country, get a tattoo of the flag on your butt and moon the unpatriotic heathens.

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I agree. It's some pretty hollow dick swinging and the country's history is full of some very selfish, over-reaching and straight up piggish moves. And then there's the entitlement, no wonder the rest of the world hates us.

Also, the US flag is fucking ugly. Fight me.

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crucial2099 posted...

this nation survived this long tolerating others and letting others express their beliefs.

Nani?


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The_Korey posted...

Nani?

Bakana!

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Night CE is wild af yo

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Natives aren't the issue. America's patriotism and how it began is the issue.

crucial2099 posted...

you realize native americans utilized slaves too right? im not condoning slavery before you cry racist! but youre calling out the american settlers while turning a blind eye to other native cultures doing the same exact thing lol. just because the whites did it on a larger scale doesnt get you off the hook. they had the technological advantage which is totally arbitrary and not malevolence.

the natives also raided other tribes and stole their lands and women. lets ignore that too

Trying to shift attention from what americans stand for is a fucking cowardly move. I can't believe you actually did that. You must be american. Because americans like to do "smart" stuff like that.

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I have absolutely zero national pride. A random person on the other side of the country means no more to mean than a random person on the other side of the planet. No one chose where to be born. It was all by chance.

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ZombiePelican posted...

I think it's a thing in the U.K but not as much as here

In England, flying the flag when there's not a major sporting tournament on is just something racist people do.

And no, I'm not saying that flying the flag is a racist action in itself. It's just that it only ever seems to be done by racists.

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SuspectWords posted...

Natives aren't the issue. America's patriotism and how it began is the issue.

american patriotism is what founded the nation lol. the sheer will and determination to break away from the crown to start colonies based on the principles of liberty and expression shouldnt be taken lightly. but of course liberals think everythings racist and all american flags should be burned while rocking designer clothes and iphones that were made possible by american ingenuity lol. never change

SuspectWords posted...

Trying to shift attention from what americans stand for is a fucking cowardly move. I can't believe you actually did that. You must be american. Because americans like to do "smart" stuff like that.

oh stfu with your holier than thou bs.

crucial2099 posted...

american patriotism is what founded the nation lol. the sheer will and determination to break away from the crown to start colonies based on the principles of liberty and expression shouldnt be taken lightly. but of course liberals think everythings racist and all american flags should be burned while rocking designer clothes and iphones that were made possible by american ingenuity lol. never change

oh stfu with your holier than thou bs.

Straight up. Fuck you and your response. You were trained to be slaves and stand for criminals and crooks. Your entire political parties are frauds. You are merely a trained robot. Yet, you respond like you have free will. Get your system corrected before you try stand for it. Because it's gonna throw you overboard someday...oh wait. That's happening now isn't it?

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Alright, I think I'm out of CE for the night. Y'all mf wildn.

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I think it can be fun.

There's some clowns who take it to the crazy extreme all the time, but my uncle gets a cabin every summer and we always get decked out super patriotic with flags and crap. It's silly fun, but there is of course some national pride there.

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SuspectWords posted...

Straight up. Fuck you and your response. You were trained to be slaves and stand for criminals and crooks. Your entire political parties are frauds. You are merely a trained robot. Yet, you respond like you have free will. Get your system corrected before you try stand for it. Because it's gonna throw you overboard someday...oh wait. That's happening now isn't it?

lmao this guy is having a meltdown. a mere 15 posts. i wonder whos alt this is.

I completely agree. People call it "patriotism", but it's actually nationalism and it's weird and outdated. I don't really like this country, but I can't leave and it's where my life is so I gotta put up with it. Anyone who thinks their country is the best in the world, especially if they think it needs no improvement, is blinded by propaganda and is inactively making the country worse by not wanting positive change.

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I've told you the truth of your country and it's system. How it treats it's own people.
How mechanical it has become.
You might call it advancement. But to what? Enslavement?
Laugh it up. Hopefully, that laughter can change your system that's ravaging people. Like it has before and will continue to do.

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SableWolfAngel posted...

I completely agree. People call it "patriotism", but it's actually nationalism and it's weird and outdated. I don't really like this country, but I can't leave and it's where my life is so I gotta put up with it. Anyone who thinks their country is the best in the world, especially if they think it needs no improvement, is blinded by propaganda and is inactively making the country worse by not wanting positive change.

lmao

crucial2099 posted...

you realize native americans utilized slaves too right? im not condoning slavery before you cry racist!

2 things

1: Where did I say anything about racism?
2: I'm going to need a citation for that claim about Native Americans

IloveJesus posted...

In England, flying the flag when there's not a major sporting tournament on is just something racist people do.

And no, I'm not saying that flying the flag is a racist action in itself. It's just that it only ever seems to be done by racists.

This is also genrally the case in the U.S. with the whole american exceptionalism bs that's shoved down your throat growing up here

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Your opinion has been noted.

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SuspectWords posted...

I've told you the truth of your country and it's system. How it treats it's own people.
How mechanical it has become.
You might call it advancement. But to what? Enslavement?
Laugh it up. Hopefully, that laughter can change your system that's ravaging people. Like it has before and will continue to do.

you sound so jaded it pretty amusing lol. id love to hear more tho im entertained

thank you hero, this world is definitely a better place with you in it with all your contributions to society!

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If you want to be entertained. Why not watch some bullshit politics? Lies. You can laugh and be entertained by those. Except when you do. You probably won't if you even decide to watch politics.
In fact, go watch some George Carlin. He'll make you laugh.

I'm done with this topic. Hopefully, people can begin to see the mechanical illegality of the system holding them hostage. Because what they're planning to do next is not for your benefit. It never was.

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crucial2099 posted...

lmao

What? I didn't say "burn this place to the ground". I just said I don't much care for it. There are worse countries than this one, but there are still plenty that are a hell of a lot better in many extremely important ways.

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ZombiePelican posted...

1: Where did I say anything about racism?

lol did you even read my post?

ZombiePelican posted...

I'm going to need a citation for that claim about Native Americans

oh thats easy. their history is just as bloody as ours.

https://www.lagrange.edu/resources/pdf/citations08/CULTURALASPECTSOFWARFARE.pdf

human nature is pure arrogant aggression. turning a blind eye to highlight anothers atrocities is very dishonest and quite ignorant

SuspectWords posted...

If you want to be entertained. Why not watch some bullshit politics? Lies. You can laugh and be entertained by those. Except when you do. You probably won't if you even decide to watch politics.
In fact, go watch some George Carlin. He'll make you laugh.

I'm done with this topic. Hopefully, people can begin to see the mechanical illegality of the system holding them hostage. Because what they're planning to do next is not for your benefit. It never was.

go on... were listening

Id rather live here in U.S. over most other countries in the world. I dont know, its not that bad

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a little nationalism is good.

ITT another ignorant sheltered spoiled baby who has never lived outside the U.S.

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KStateKing17 posted...

Is flying the national flag everywhere common in other countries like it is here?

It's fairly common in Canada, but less politicized I guess. You are just as likely to see liberals doing it as conservatives.

I'm getting fed up with people demonizing America for sins almost every other country's foundation was established on as well.

And just because we own up to ours is not reason to single us out for it.

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Prismsblade posted...

And just because we own up to ours is not reason to single us out for it.

Nanda?

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So then how are we supposed to feel?

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It's the best nation created yet and has thw most freedoms.

But sure, keep obsessing over centuries old history.

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I was just curious about individuals displaying the flag just because. It just seems as unnecessary as putting a flag of your local sports team. It doesn't bother me but we're all American. Who are you displaying for?

AtelierRyza3462 posted...

It's the best nation created yet and has thw most freedoms.

But sure, keep obsessing over centuries old history.

Centuries old though? Lmao! It hasn't even been 60 years since the end of the civil rights movement.

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crucial2099 posted...

american patriotism is what founded the nation lol. the sheer will and determination to break away from the crown to start colonies based on the principles of liberty and expression shouldnt be taken lightly. but of course liberals think everythings racist and all american flags should be burned while rocking designer clothes and iphones that were made possible by american ingenuity lol. never change

oh stfu with your holier than thou bs.

This dude sounds like an assblasted Trumpanzee

That was 300 years ago....

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ZombiePelican posted...

This land was literally stolen and then built on the backs of one exploited working class group after another, what exactly is there to be proud of or think it's only for your kind and only yours to defend?

Literally describing pretty much every country ever with that silly edge. The only countries without war or exploited working classes would be countries without humans.

KStateKing17 posted...

Is flying the national flag everywhere common in other countries like it is here? I feel like the majority of the time, these people are showing off how "patriotic" they are to other Americans. I

American patriotism is pretty tame compared to some other nations, although it's more than some nations. It's kinda middling.

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Having lived in other countries I was shocked how brainwashed I was by the american propaganda system

It's literally as bad as China. Americans seriously believe they're the best country on earth and 90% of other countries are backwards holes in the dirt that want to be america

America is a completely random country to most of the world

Tc, do you mean US nationalism, or nationalism for any country in general?

Njolk posted...

America is a completely random country to most of the world

I mean, not really.
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KStateKing17 posted...

Is flying the national flag everywhere common in other countries like it is here?

in germany people will assume you're a nazi unless the soccer world cup or european cup is happening

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emblem boy posted...

Tc, do you mean US nationalism, or nationalism for any country in general?

I mean, not really.

I can only speak from my experience but the south americans I knew thought about the US about as much as americans think about Ireland or Morocco

I've been to Laos and they all want to come to a 1st world country.

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Njolk posted...

I can only speak from my experience but the south americans I knew thought about the US about as much as americans think about Ireland or Morocco

i dunno about most of the world but trump was omnipresent in the german media for 5 years

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Njolk posted...

I can only speak from my experience but the south americans I knew thought about the US about as much as americans think about Ireland or Morocco

So....not at all?

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Prismsblade posted...

So....not at all?

Yes that's my point, the US is not an omnipresent force and the envy of the world, like we're taught in school