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Duncanwii
04/08/21 6:31:00 PM
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Abraham Lincoln wasnt even on the ballot in most southern states. He was elected by Northern states alone and the South got pissed. The south broke from the union because they felt their voices weren't heard in the election and that the North didnt care about their needs as citizens. Taxation without representation.
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PoundGarden
04/08/21 6:37:55 PM
#103:


Duncanwii posted...
Abraham Lincoln wasnt even on the ballot in most southern states. He was elected by Northern states alone and the South got pissed. The south broke from the union because they felt their voices weren't heard in the election and that the North didnt care about their needs as citizens. Taxation without representation.

It is almost impressive how determined you are to dig in and fortify the fuck out of this stupid hill to die in a blaze of derp.

Just say you're a racist. Say "Hi, I'm Duncan! I kick chickens and am racist af but don't quite have the stones to just come out and say it."

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Sapphrodite
04/08/21 6:47:52 PM
#104:


Duncanwii posted...
Abraham Lincoln wasnt even on the ballot in most southern states. He was elected by Northern states alone and the South got pissed. The south broke from the union because they felt their voices weren't heard in the election and that the North didnt care about their needs as citizens. Taxation without representation.
Why wasnt he on the ballot in the south? Do you even know?
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Gobstoppers12
04/08/21 6:48:11 PM
#105:


PoundGarden posted...
I was more referring to you saying he's right after he declared the CW was about states rights.

If thats not what you were supporting, my apologies. If so, fuck off I stand by it
I was answering a specific post, I hadn't read any further than that. Of course the civil war was primarily motivated by issues connected to slavery.

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FrisbeeDude
04/08/21 6:50:46 PM
#106:


shockthemonkey posted...
Shitting on the confederacy is a good purpose in and of itself

Fucking right

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IShall_Run_Amok
04/08/21 6:51:25 PM
#108:


The South shouldn't have even been allowed to vote. Slave states get the stick.

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Tyranthraxus
04/08/21 6:52:03 PM
#109:


Duncanwii posted...
Abraham Lincoln wasnt even on the ballot in most southern states. He was elected by Northern states alone and the South got pissed. The south broke from the union because they felt their voices weren't heard in the election and that the North didnt care about their needs as citizens. Taxation without representation.

When the colonies overthrew the British king because of "no taxation without representation" the entire collection of colonies got a single senator in the British parliament and everyone else was a native Brit. The southern states still controlled roughly half of everything.

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SwordMaster13X
04/08/21 6:52:20 PM
#110:


Why is a chair someone sat in so important? The fact that Jefferson Davis sat in a chair doesnt tell me who Jefferson Davis is.

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FrisbeeDude
04/08/21 6:53:00 PM
#111:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
In what conceivable way is it racist to suggest that stealing and defacing historical artifacts is a crime?

when you eliminate the context under which the crime was committed.

Its against the law to throw a brick through a window, but I'm not losing any sleep if that window belongs to a KKK chapter, for example

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Gobstoppers12
04/08/21 6:55:20 PM
#112:


FrisbeeDude posted...
when you eliminate the context under which the crime was committed.

Its against the law to throw a brick through a window, but I'm not losing any sleep if that window belongs to a KKK chapter, for example
A crime is a crime, even if it's a crime against somebody you disagree with.

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FrisbeeDude
04/08/21 6:59:08 PM
#113:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
A crime is a crime, even if it's a crime against somebody you disagree with.

Cool, bro. I'll be over here with the normal people who understand context and that not all crimes are the same, but you do you with your absolutism I'm sure that hits well with all the minority friends you have

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Gobstoppers12
04/08/21 7:01:54 PM
#114:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Cool, bro. I'll be over here with the normal people who understand context and that not all crimes are the same, but you do you with your absolutism I'm sure that hits well with all the minority friends you have
You're saying a lot of frilly, vapid stuff to justify your support of crimes committed against people you don't like.

That's not a good mindset. That's an incendiary mindset. Theft, vandalism, etc. are unacceptable regardless of who they target.

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Slayer_22
04/08/21 7:08:53 PM
#115:


FrisbeeDude posted...


Cool, bro. I'll be over here with the normal people who understand context and that not all crimes are the same, but you do you with your absolutism I'm sure that hits well with all the minority friends you have

I mean, throwing a brick through a KKK chapter is fine and all, but it's a slippery slope to start defending crimes just because you think they're shit. If it degrades to murder/rape, I sure as hell don't want to have been a part of that.

Though, in the end, this whole thing is petty.
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Tyranthraxus
04/08/21 7:12:34 PM
#116:


Slayer_22 posted...
I mean, throwing a brick through a KKK chapter is fine and all, but it's a slippery slope to start defending crimes just because you think they're shit. If it degrades to murder/rape, I sure as hell don't want to have been a part of that.

Though, in the end, this whole thing is petty.

I think there's a difference between disagreeing with a crime and then suggesting that stealing a chair is an attempt at historical revisionism or cultural Genocide but that's just me.

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Slayer_22
04/08/21 7:13:39 PM
#117:


Tyranthraxus posted...


I think there's a difference between disagreeing with a crime and then suggesting that stealing a chair is an attempt at historical revisionism or cultural Genocide but that's just me.

I'm not saying that, just saying that it's fine sometimes but the more we justify it, the worse it could get.
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Tyranthraxus
04/08/21 7:18:17 PM
#118:


Slayer_22 posted...
I'm not saying that, just saying that it's fine sometimes but the more we justify it, the worse it could get.
No you're not saying that but there is a guy saying it who should don't

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IShall_Run_Amok
04/08/21 7:18:53 PM
#119:


Personally, I'm not seeing any downsides to eliminating antebellum culture. It was a plague on everyone involved.

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MabusIncarnate
04/08/21 7:25:15 PM
#120:


Duncan saying books are biased and hide the truth while he frantically consults Google for information on the civil war on the internet to answer these questions

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FrisbeeDude
04/08/21 7:28:32 PM
#121:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
You're saying a lot of frilly, vapid stuff to justify your support of crimes committed against people you don't like.

That's not a good mindset. That's an incendiary mindset. Theft, vandalism, etc. are unacceptable regardless of who they target.

Like I said, you have fun with that position in the corner. I'll be with the cool people laughing at how a traitorous monument literally got shit on


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FrisbeeDude
04/08/21 7:29:14 PM
#122:


IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Personally, I'm not seeing any downsides to eliminating antebellum culture. It was a plague on everyone involved.

b-b-but theft and vandalism are crimes and that's all that matters!

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What_
04/08/21 7:29:32 PM
#123:


We dont defend Nazis why should we defend Confederates in their shitty statues??
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marthsheretoo
04/08/21 7:31:26 PM
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yutterh
04/08/21 7:31:45 PM
#125:


Sapphrodite posted...
I love how much this upsets you

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yutterh
04/08/21 7:32:45 PM
#126:


marthsheretoo posted...

Yes it was a complicated factor and I too believed this at first. But it was mainly about slavery and the right to own slaves. I think only 2 confederate states weren't about slavery.

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cjsdowg
04/08/21 7:34:03 PM
#127:


Tenlaar posted...
Very smart of them to provide additional evidence of their petty, pointless crime.

Nothing is petty about it. Do you think Jewish people would like Hitler monuments around .

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Sapphrodite
04/08/21 8:46:22 PM
#128:


MabusIncarnate posted...
Duncan saying books are biased and hide the truth while he frantically consults Google for information on the civil war on the internet to answer these questions
real historians learn history by looking at chairs, not by reading.
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AlisLandale
04/08/21 9:09:40 PM
#129:


How old was the monument, and when was it placed?

The answer determines whether I merely laugh, or guffaw, at the people who are upset about this >_>

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hockeybub89
04/09/21 8:10:13 AM
#130:


Remember when Germany forgot about whatever those bad people in the 40s were called after they took down their statues?

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Questionmarktarius
04/09/21 10:29:40 AM
#131:


hockeybub89 posted...
whatever those bad people in the 40s were called
"skull-hat baddies", right?
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LNSS
04/09/21 10:31:42 AM
#132:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
based

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Machete
04/09/21 10:51:39 AM
#133:


Gobstoppers12 posted...

You're saying a lot of frilly, vapid stuff to justify your support of crimes committed against people you don't like.

That's not a good mindset. That's an incendiary mindset. Theft, vandalism, etc. are unacceptable regardless of who they target.


"Waaahh"
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