Poll of the Day > So I was thinking about getting back into Disgaea 5

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I loaded up my 70 hour save file and felt so lost. Not sure if I just want to do a new game or try and manage this one.

On my favorites, I have this red trap maxed out with 900 statisticians and under it is a red arcadia with some levels.

That is the problem with Disgaea games especially later ones they have so many mechanics that picking it back up again can be rough.

I have the problems. I thought I would just grind some levels with exp squad and Sage and couldn't figure out why I wasn't getting any exp.

In the cheat menu I had exp to 0% and mana at 1000%.

Am I just remembering D4 favorably or is postgame way harder with D5? I reached 20M base stats but I don't know how to crack the code with the perfect evilties/party setup to reach 40M.

I thought I start working on my LoC Trapezohedron because I heard you can't mess it up in this one but there's no way I can get the training bonus to 400 on 0 Stars. I was killing everything and by floor 60 I had like 4 training bonus so I just reverted to an old save.

Guides always want to mention having the last two unique evility slots unlocked but the prerequisite, LoC final boss has maxed stats even on 0 stars wtf.

NeoSioType posted...

I reached 20M base stats but I don't know how to crack the code with the perfect evilties/party setup to reach 40M.

-Having a character in a full Foot Soldier squad gives them +20% stats (+1% per member), bonus if unit in question is male (or female with Gender Bender) and other squad members all have Bodyguard (+5% damage each)
-Having a character in a full Flatty Squad (only works for flat-chested characters) gives them +25%
-Unstable Power increases stats by 50%, then decreases by 20% per turn (not an issue if you're one-shotting the map)
-Heavy stance gives +30% stats, at the cost of not being able to lift/throw
-Violence gives +50% stats, -50% exp gained (irrelevant at level cap)
-Charismatic Novice increases stats of adjacent units by 10% (up to 40%, with 4 supporters, pair with Angel Song and Christo's Superlative Ally for a nice ATK boost)

There are a few other options, but some combination of those will get you up to 35/40M pretty comfortably.

NeoSioType posted...

I thought I start working on my LoC Trapezohedron because I heard you can't mess it up in this one but there's no way I can get the training bonus to 400 on 0 Stars. I was killing everything and by floor 60 I had like 4 training bonus so I just reverted to an old save.

Kill Bonus is the one that increases by killing stuff and caps at 400, you'll want to do that on 20 stars and kill everything to speed it up (should be doable to max it out within somewhere between 300 and 500 floors, under those conditions). Training Bonus just increases by killing bosses and clearing mystery rooms, so your best bet is either to use Diver-10's to skip between boss floors, or use a runner with the evilities/squad bonuses that allow them to skip 5 floors on entering the gate. If you're raising the Training Bonus, make sure you've got a max-level Innocent for each stat on the item. It took me ~6000 floors to max it out on an Axel Gear, but it's faster on items with higher base stats (like Traps).

Once you max both, then you just hunt for Dupe rooms so you don't have to do it again.

NeoSioType posted...

Guides always want to mention having the last two unique evility slots unlocked but the prerequisite, LoC final boss has maxed stats even on 0 stars wtf.

Generally speaking, the last unique evility isn't that crucial to builds. You can leave it out until you're up to taking on that boss. When you do, the best strategy is to clear the map and whittle him down to near death on the first turn (a suitably buffed sage can do this with Land Decimator and Comet Disaster), then move everyone back into the base except for a bait character a few spaces out from it. When he attacks the bait character, bring out the character you want to unlock the slot for, then put Christo (or another supporter) next to them, pile another 8 characters on top of them, and use Tower Laser to finish off the boss. That should suffice, provided you've got enough powerful characters in the tower.

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Thanks for all the help. I meant kill bonus and I was focusing on it over training because I heard things get harder on higher floors.

I found the dupe room when I was doing that and it was a terrible experience. I had very fast movement on in the options and for some reason thought I needed to be back at base to change it. Turns out it was on the next page over. Controls were so sensitive but I somehow managed to get to the top but the duplication failed, lmao.

As for unique evilty slots, something that I didn't understand because I stopped playing for so long was the slot you get from Prinny Overlord. I thought there was a LoC version and couldn't find out how to unlock it but it's the one that you fight to unlock LoC in the first place. So basically 2/3 of them are easy to get.

The LoC final boss wasn't the last fight I had unlocked. It's the boss before the final boss and it's supposedly harder from what I heard.

NeoSioType posted...

Thanks for all the help. I meant kill bonus and I was focusing on it over training because I heard things get harder on higher floors.

Yep, that's generally the best way to go, though in practice, you'll be up against max stat enemies almost immediately either way and higher floors therefore don't change that much. Max out the difficulty and wipe every floor you encounter, aside from mystery rooms that are either too hard (namely the bank) or too cumbersome to trigger the fight in (like the one that gives you the pie item). You can raise the KB cap by raising the item's max level in the assembly, but you run into massive diminishing returns past the default 400 cap, so it's generally not worthwhile (especially considering how expensive that bill is to pass).

NeoSioType posted...

I found the dupe room when I was doing that and it was a terrible experience. I had very fast movement on in the options and for some reason thought I needed to be back at base to change it. Turns out it was on the next page over. Controls were so sensitive but I somehow managed to get to the top but the duplication failed, lmao.

The dupe room takes some getting used to. The first couple times I found it, I just straight up gave up. You'll eventually get the hang of it and figure out the easiest route to the top. Just make sure you've got somebody in the squad that unlocks triple jump, plus put the Super Jump evility on somebody (anyone at all, doesn't have to be Killia or whoever you're controlling) for good measure.

NeoSioType posted...

As for unique evilty slots, something that I didn't understand because I stopped playing for so long was the slot you get from Prinny Overlord. I thought there was a LoC version and couldn't find out how to unlock it but it's the one that you fight to unlock LoC in the first place. So basically 2/3 of them are easy to get.

Yep, the only hard one is from the LoC boss. Prinny Overlord is a cake walk for anyone with even just 10M stats, let alone 20M+.

NeoSioType posted...

The LoC final boss wasn't the last fight I had unlocked. It's the boss before the final boss and it's supposedly harder from what I heard.

Carnage Dark is the one you want. Still not an easy fight, since he'll annihilate pretty much anyone you let him attack unless they've got really beefy defenses, but it's reasonably feasible to burst him down before he has a chance to do that and/or bait him into attacking a sacrifice while your main units blow him up.

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