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refmon
04/06/21 2:02:01 AM
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jon1012 posted...
Sorry he killed himself but this is not the girls fault.


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joe40001
04/06/21 2:02:10 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Can you guys wait until he's in a less distressed state before doing "um, actually" 's? Let him figure out his feelings before putting him in a defensive state. You're asking a guy who just found out his friend died to rationalize everything perfectly. It's not like he's saying he's gonna go harm her. He has more details on his own life and is in a vunerable state. Maybe bring it up later, if anything. Let him vent gow ne needs to right now. Maybe there's a whole lot more to ot that you guys don't know.


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teep_
04/06/21 2:14:21 AM
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I'm sorry for your loss TC

Don't blame yourself
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TheoryzC
04/06/21 2:20:53 AM
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Oh she and the management at his job are definitely feeling some type of guilt


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Kami_no_Kami
04/06/21 2:26:07 AM
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Sorry man. Cheaters are sub-human.
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joe40001
04/06/21 2:29:01 AM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...
Sorry man. Cheaters are sub-human.


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8964752
04/06/21 2:52:26 AM
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metralo posted...
There's not a time and place. I wouldn't mourn my Aunt dying from a gang shooting from a black male saying "ugh. black men. if it weren't for them."

you rhetorically have to be fair if you're going to enourage an entire thread to hate a group.
This is not even close to what is going on this topic. No one is disparaging women. TC is upset about one person doing something bad to another person, which contributed to their negative mental state and ended in them losing their life.

Take your shitty virtue signaling somewhere else.

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rexcrk
04/06/21 5:30:39 AM
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Scarecrow17 posted...
Thanks for the condolences from some of you. Ill probably not post much for a bit since a few individuals want to jump on me for this. Really dont need to be debated on this at the moment despite if Im right or wrong. I already said that I will reframe from saying anything about her in public since it is not my intention to kick her while shes probably feeling down. This is just me venting about the situation. I wont point fingers at the girl. People just need to know not to cheat. It deeply saddens me that my friend took his life because this situation with her and the job overwhelmed him. He deserves better than this. I hope she knows not to cheat on her partners from now on. Thats all I wanted to say.
100% agreed.

I feel like not enough people really understand how much shit like that can mess up a person.

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Sonic Cannon
04/06/21 5:34:09 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
You should never blame someone for someone else's suicide unless:

1) They have a long, pervasive and documented history of psychologically tormenting the individual

or

2) They literally goaded the person into doing it

The only "crime" (if you can call it that) for which she's guilty is cheating on him. That's extremely common and, while a douche thing to do, cheating on someone doesn't suddenly make you complicit with suicide. It's not like she should've thought "I better not do this, because what if he finds out on the same day he loses his job and has a breakdown?"

Otherwise, you get situations that I see relatively often - where a mentally unstable person will threaten suicide whenever their boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse tries to leave the relationship, guilting them into staying into it.

Destroying her life doesn't bring him back.

As others have said, though, it's not the time and place to be telling TC to not be mad. I've had to tell best friends that their friend is dead over similar situations, and they have a right to feel this way.
This tbh.

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Slayer_22
04/06/21 6:07:43 AM
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Sorry to hear that TC. Ignore the idiots.

How fucking thirsty do you have to be to white knight for a girl who cheated on her boyfriend that isn't even reading your posts?
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Jiek_Fafn
04/06/21 6:29:55 AM
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Sorry, man. Losing a friend like that is fucking awful. Been there and it's yeah. Just fucking awful.

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Slayer_22
04/06/21 9:01:07 AM
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GranolaPanic posted...
Thats not what anyone is doing. TC is understandably very emotional and distraught over this. When a person is like that it can affect their judgement. You want someone to blame for what happened. No single person is solely responsible for this. Not her for cheating on him. Not his boss for firing him. I understand the need for creating a scapegoat in a tragedy like this, but lashing out in public in an attempt to get vengeance is something youll regret once the person is thinking more clearly.

...dude, it's an internet forum and he already said he isn't gonna say anything to her. Let him fucking vent rather than trying to damage control a situation in which TC is entirely in control of. And then people feel the need to defend her like...idk, she matters in this situation? I can understand if he said something inflammatory or that he was going to do something. But he didn't.

And yes, that is what people are doing. The girl cheated and played a big part in this situation. If you want to handwave how awful that is, fine, but it isn't necessary to post it in a topic where a man is grieving over the loss of his friend.
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cymbaline
04/06/21 9:38:58 AM
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Sorry for your loss.

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smoke_break
04/06/21 9:43:40 AM
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I'd close this TC, too many dumbasses here. But fuck her, and cheaters in general.

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FrisbeeDude
04/06/21 10:02:52 AM
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jon1012 posted...
Sorry he killed himself but this is not the girls fault.

This. Putting his suicide on her shoulders really isnt cool.

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ZeroX91
04/06/21 10:10:01 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
This. Putting his suicide on her shoulders really isnt cool.
Neither is cheating, shitty actions have shitty consequences, if she doesnt feel some level of guilt she is a terrible person same goes for his managers. Nevermind that the girl in question is never going to read gamefaqs.

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PatrickMahomes
04/06/21 10:17:22 AM
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cheating is the lowest act anyone could perform

sorry to hear TC that's fucked up

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eston
04/06/21 10:19:40 AM
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I would assume your friend had more going on than just losing his job and his gf, otherwise how tf was he literally one bad day away from committing suicide

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Scarecrow17
04/06/21 1:34:27 PM
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Yeah, some people here are saying things that I dont think is the right time to have that conversation but its whatever.

I found out he has a Twitter account and it turns out he had a really bad week leading up to this. He spent the whole day yesterday saying some really dark things like how nobody cares about him or that he just wants the pain to go away. He didnt mention the girlfriend directly but you could tell he was speaking about her when he mentioned being heartbroken and how love makes you do irrational things.

It was rough reading all of that. Today, his younger brother notified everyone that hes still on life support but his chances of recovering are low. If by some miracle he does recover, hell never walk or talk again. Its up to the family to decide what they want to do for him so were all just waiting for more information. Theyre talking about taking him off life support but its still up in the air. I hope he recovers. So many people are pulling for him right now. Theres so much support for him on social media. We all thought he was gone yesterday. If theres a chance he can make it, Ill take it.


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metralo
04/07/21 1:11:10 AM
#76:


8964752 posted...
This is not even close to what is going on this topic. No one is disparaging women.

Lmfao. Wild that you can read this thread and think this.

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I would say 99.999% of people that get cheated on don't commit suicide. But yeah, its the womans fault.

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Kami_no_Kami
04/07/21 4:04:17 AM
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metralo posted...
I would say 99.999% of people that get cheated on don't commit suicide.
And? Every situation is unique. Actions have consequences and sometimes those consequences are unusual. Consequences being unusual doesnt magically change the actions that caused said consequences.

Timeframe seems to indicate that her cheating may have pushed him over the edge and if it did, thats partially on her. It doesnt matter how unlikely it was. It doesnt matter that there were other circumstances that contributed to his death. If what she did was a cause of it, she is partially at fault for it.

And, no, Im not attacking women. If a man cheated and his partner committed suicide the next day I would be saying the same thing about him.
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Funcoland
04/07/21 4:28:49 AM
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Scarecrow17 posted...
No, he was fine right up until today.

As someone who personally deals with depression on a daily basis... This likely wasn't true. A lot of people, especially men, don't know how to deal with emotional trauma and often internalize things they shouldn't. In all likelihood, he was dealing with a lot of things and didn't know how to talk about it since we live in world that doesn't actually recognize mental illness.

Is his girlfriends a bitch? Absolutely. His boss was also an asshole. And both might have been the match... But there's a very real chance he was already covered in gasoline. And it's not the fault of his friends and family for not noticing either... Since people often hide the depth of their pain.

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cuttin_in_farm
04/07/21 10:03:47 AM
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Holy fucking shit, Im an asshole every now and then, but these socially inept nerds on CE are legit ARGUING in the topic when TC just suffered an emotionally tragic situation?

My condolences TC! Like what someone said, Id urge to reach out to others who may be affected by his passing. Yall may be just what eachother needs. You never know how the ripples go when it comes to things like this. And stay safe and take time, bro.

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FrisbeeDude
04/07/21 10:07:58 AM
#83:


ZeroX91 posted...
Neither is cheating, shitty actions have shitty consequences, if she doesnt feel some level of guilt she is a terrible person same goes for his managers. Nevermind that the girl in question is never going to read gamefaqs.

This is insane

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ZeroX91
04/07/21 10:14:07 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
This is insane
No it isnt. If you do something you know is going to hurt someone and feel no remose you are by definition a bad person, and if you actions played a roll in someone killing themselves and you feel no level of guilt you are a sociopath. Is she gonna be here reading any of this topic no, is ce going to go find and harass her no. TC is venting

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Aitz
04/07/21 10:19:53 AM
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I am sorry for your loss TC :(

Depression is a bitch and so is that girl

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FrisbeeDude
04/07/21 10:28:40 AM
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ZeroX91 posted...
No it isnt. If you do something you know is going to hurt someone and feel no remose you are by definition a bad person, and if you actions played a roll in someone killing themselves and you feel no level of guilt you are a sociopath. Is she gonna be here reading any of this topic no, is ce going to go find and harass her no. TC is venting

no one is responsible for someone else's mental health holy shit yall are wild


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legendary_zell
04/07/21 10:42:36 AM
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This is a very tragic situation and it's horrible that you lost a friend TC. My condolences and I hope you and his whole extended circle of loved ones can find peace.

Still gotta say that some of the responses in this topic are real creepy and concerning. There's a weird complex that's been built up around cheating where people treat it as a war crime or something. It's bad, it makes people feel bad and insecure. But to say it makes you sub human or that it's the worst thing a person can do or that it makes you culpable for suicide is just....no.

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ZeroX91
04/07/21 12:04:15 PM
#90:


legendary_zell posted...
This is a very tragic situation and it's horrible that you lost a friend TC. My condolences and I hope you and his whole extended circle of loved ones can find peace.

Still gotta say that some of the responses in this topic are real creepy and concerning. There's a weird complex that's been built up around cheating where people treat it as a war crime or something. It's bad, it makes people feel bad and insecure. But to say it makes you sub human or that it's the worst thing a person can do or that it makes you culpable for suicide is just....no.
No one saif they were subhuman. Just that it was shitty and it played a role. People are sympathizing with TC you know that thing you do for your friend when they are fired or their SO cheats? You go "yea they are a pos" "you dont start going "well they did that thing but they arent bad people" jeeze fuck yall dense sometimes

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legendary_zell
04/07/21 2:02:22 PM
#91:


Kami_no_Kami posted...
Sorry man. Cheaters are sub-human.

This person and Joe sure seem to be saying that cheaters are sub-human.

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smoke_break
04/07/21 3:03:31 PM
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I don't know why cheating isn't viewed the same as other forms of emotional abuse. If someone was being bullied for whatever reason and it lead to them killing themselves, people wouldn't rush in to defend the bully like "Oh, they must've had something else going on. The bullying isn't to blame." Cheating is the ultimate betrayal of trust, and it's that bad and I don't think it should be downplayed.

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jon1012
04/07/21 3:08:53 PM
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Nope. Not the girl's fault at all. Blame her all you want, but he killed himself. It wasn't murder.

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Slayer_22
04/07/21 7:23:43 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
This is a very tragic situation and it's horrible that you lost a friend TC. My condolences and I hope you and his whole extended circle of loved ones can find peace.

Still gotta say that some of the responses in this topic are real creepy and concerning. There's a weird complex that's been built up around cheating where people treat it as a war crime or something. It's bad, it makes people feel bad and insecure. But to say it makes you sub human or that it's the worst thing a person can do or that it makes you culpable for suicide is just....no.

There's a difference between cheating, and then cheating on a long term partner then threatening to call the police on them without explaining anything to them.

If you're cheating on your partner, you're kinda a scummy person. There's a level of mutual trust. Can you justify cheating?
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Scarecrow17
04/07/21 7:44:21 PM
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I went and saw him at the hospital today. The nurse told everyone to say their final goodbyes since he was being taken off of life support. Lot of emotions today. A lot of anger since the girlfriend showed up to the hospital to see him. I didnt say anything negative to her. I know some of the other guys already told her off through social media. When she was there, many of them didnt acknowledge her. I did although I really didnt want to but I was doing it for him.

Hes saving 8 people with his organs. Im sure he would be happy to hear that.

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g0ldie
04/07/21 7:46:32 PM
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damn man, that's really tough...

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Slayer_22
04/07/21 8:16:29 PM
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Scarecrow17 posted...
I went and saw him at the hospital today. The nurse told everyone to say their final goodbyes since he was being taken off of life support. Lot of emotions today. A lot of anger since the girlfriend showed up to the hospital to see him. I didnt say anything negative to her. I know some of the other guys already told her off through social media. When she was there, many of them didnt acknowledge her. I did although I really didnt want to but I was doing it for him.

Hes saving 8 people with his organs. Im sure he would be happy to hear that.

Sad to hear it, man.

He's helping a lot of people, though. In death, even, dude is helping. That's positive. Not bringing him back, but...idk. Lot of good being done in a truly awful situation.

Sorry TC.
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RedJackson
04/07/21 8:27:19 PM
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Scarecrow17 posted...
I went and saw him at the hospital today. The nurse told everyone to say their final goodbyes since he was being taken off of life support. Lot of emotions today. A lot of anger since the girlfriend showed up to the hospital to see him. I didnt say anything negative to her. I know some of the other guys already told her off through social media. When she was there, many of them didnt acknowledge her. I did although I really didnt want to but I was doing it for him.

Hes saving 8 people with his organs. Im sure he would be happy to hear that.

You did right - Kudos to you

It takes a lot to swallow that up so remember to spit it back out eventually. Worst thing I feel you could've done was be dishonest about how you really felt so I appreciate the fact that you really laid this out on a line in a public space.

Try not to lose your way or footing walking forward


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jon1012
04/07/21 8:28:53 PM
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Conflict posted...
Nobody said it was murder. Are you illiterate?

I didn't say someone said it was murder. I was just restating that she had no fault in it.

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