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Drpooplol 04/01/21 9:57:30 AM #1:	Also Gamers: omg I LOVE Nintendo --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:952349101] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Also Gamers: omg I LOVE Nintendo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 04/01/21 10:00:53 AM #2:	I'm such a hypocrite with this shit. EA pissed me off by adding lootboxes into BF2, which meant I had less reason to buy their game. Yet I spend money on gacha games quite regularly. But then, when I think about this, I just don't really care. Like, who the fuck cares if I'm a hypocrite? I'm enjoying myself. It's fucking video games. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:952349182] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>I'm such a hypocrite with this shit. EA pissed me off by adding lootboxes into BF2, which meant I had less reason to buy their game. Yet I spend money on gacha games quite regularly. But then, when I think about this, I just don't really care. Like, who the fuck cares if I'm a hypocrite? I'm enjoying myself. It's fucking video games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 04/01/21 10:03:45 AM #3:	People are constantly bitching about Nintendo's bad business practices when it comes to things like games never going on sale. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:952349247] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>People are constantly bitching about Nintendo's bad business practices when it comes to things like games never going on sale. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 04/01/21 10:04:44 AM #4:	s0nicfan posted... People are constantly bitching about Nintendo's bad business practices when it comes to things like games never going on sale. very true, but you know there are tons of Nintendo fanboys who defend everything they do --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:952349275] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>People are constantly bitching about Nintendo's bad business practices when it comes to things like games never going on sale.</quote>very true, but you know there are tons of Nintendo fanboys who defend everything they do </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 04/01/21 10:09:27 AM #5:	nintendo built up so much good will between the nes and the gamecube that no matter how stupid and shitty they act, people will tolerate it as long as they keep releasing one good game every two or three years --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:952349369] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>nintendo built up so much good will between the nes and the gamecube that no matter how stupid and shitty they act, people will tolerate it as long as they keep releasing one good game every two or three years </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Legato-and-Vash 04/01/21 10:14:39 AM #6:	If I had to bet, most of the same people who complain about EGS also complain about Nintendo. I've definitely seen a lot of hate towards Nintendo's practices. Especially from people who don't primarily game on Nintendo platforms. --- *~Sincerely yours, Legato and Vash~* Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/kid_prodigy23 <cite>Legato-and-Vash posted [p:952349500] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>If I had to bet, most of the same people who complain about EGS also complain about Nintendo. I've definitely seen a lot of hate towards Nintendo's practices. Especially from people who don't primarily game on Nintendo platforms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 04/01/21 10:16:14 AM #7:	Nintendo: Makes excellent games, doesn't load them up with microtransactions --- Razer Blade 15 - Core i7-9750H, 32 GB RAM (2666), RTX 2080 MQ <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:952349544] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Nintendo: Makes excellent games, doesn't load them up with microtransactions </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/01/21 10:23:04 AM #8:	gamers: omg i hate epic they're 40% owned by china! valve who has been in china for a decade partnered with perfect world who blacklisted dota 2 talent for making fun of chinese censorship and keeps pro-taiwan games out of their store: smiles hey you don't want to risk losing your steam library now do you? --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:952349731] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>gamers: omg i hate epic they're 40% owned by china! valve who has been in china for a decade partnered with perfect world who blacklisted dota 2 talent for making fun of chinese censorship and keeps pro-taiwan games out of their store: smiles hey you don't want to risk losing your steam library now do you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 04/01/21 10:32:07 AM #9:	I Like Toast posted... gamers: omg i hate epic they're 40% owned by china! valve who has been in china for a decade partnered with perfect world who blacklisted dota 2 talent for making fun of chinese censorship and keeps pro-taiwan games out of their store: smiles hey you don't want to risk losing your steam library now do you? I like Toast, more like I like being right. DarkRoast posted... Nintendo: Makes excellent games, doesn't load them up with microtransactions I like Nintendo games too, but their business practices are blatantly anti-consumer. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:952349985] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>gamers: omg i hate epic they're 40% owned by china! valve who has been in china for a decade partnered with perfect world who blacklisted dota 2 talent for making fun of chinese censorship and keeps pro-taiwan games out of their store: smiles hey you don't want to risk losing your steam library now do you?</quote>I like Toast, more like I like being right. DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>Nintendo: Makes excellent games, doesn't load them up with microtransactions</quote>I like Nintendo games too, but their business practices are blatantly anti-consumer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 04/01/21 10:37:51 AM #10:	I haven't bought a Nintendo system since the Gamecube. All they've done for the last 20 years is recycle the same games and franchises. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:952350162] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>I haven't bought a Nintendo system since the Gamecube. All they've done for the last 20 years is recycle the same games and franchises. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 04/01/21 10:52:48 AM #11:	I Like Toast posted... gamers: omg i hate epic they're 40% owned by china! valve who has been in china for a decade partnered with perfect world who blacklisted dota 2 talent for making fun of chinese censorship and keeps pro-taiwan games out of their store: smiles hey you don't want to risk losing your steam library now do you? there's a bit of a difference between a company being owned / controlled by the Chinese gov't, as the case with Epic vs a company being friendly with China because money. im sure you knew that tho --- Playing: Luigi's Mansion 3; Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order; Hades; Dead Cells; You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:952350617] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>gamers: omg i hate epic they're 40% owned by china! valve who has been in china for a decade partnered with perfect world who blacklisted dota 2 talent for making fun of chinese censorship and keeps pro-taiwan games out of their store: smiles hey you don't want to risk losing your steam library now do you?</quote> there's a bit of a difference between a company being owned / controlled by the Chinese gov't, as the case with Epic vs a company being friendly with China because money. im sure you knew that tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/01/21 10:55:29 AM #12:	Giant_Aspirin posted... there's a bit of a difference between a company being owned / controlled by the Chinese gov't, as the case with Epic vs a company being friendly with China because money. Is the difference you still do whatever china tells you to do because in order to do business in china you have to partner with a chinese company and valve was the publisher that paved the way for everyone that followed? just like they did with bringing loot boxes to AAA gaming? --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:952350692] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote> there's a bit of a difference between a company being owned / controlled by the Chinese gov't, as the case with Epic vs a company being friendly with China because money.</quote> Is the difference you still do whatever china tells you to do because in order to do business in china you have to partner with a chinese company and valve was the publisher that paved the way for everyone that followed? just like they did with bringing loot boxes to AAA gaming? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyle1022 04/01/21 10:56:38 AM #13:	Nintendo has some shitty practices but what can you do? They make some great exclusive games so if you wanna play them, you just gotta deal with it. With Epic it's easy, just buy their games on another storefront instead, or buy the console versions, or wait a year for the games they paid for to come to Steam. (Or in the case of Kingdom Hearts, they've already been cracked, so I'm sure some people would rather pirate them than support Epic) <cite>Kyle1022 posted [p:952350717] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Nintendo has some shitty practices but what can you do? They make some great exclusive games so if you wanna play them, you just gotta deal with it. With Epic it's easy, just buy their games on another storefront instead, or buy the console versions, or wait a year for the games they paid for to come to Steam. (Or in the case of Kingdom Hearts, they've already been cracked, so I'm sure some people would rather pirate them than support Epic) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 04/01/21 10:59:35 AM #15:	I Like Toast posted... Is the difference you still do whatever china tells you to do because in order to do business in china you have to partner with a chinese company and valve was the publisher that paved the way for everyone that followed? nope. it's about where the trust lies. while valve may be somewhat questionable about consumer friendliness, i trust them vastly more than the Chinese gov't. I Like Toast posted... just like they did with bringing loot boxes to AAA gaming? im not trying to argue Valve is a perfect, totally consumer friendly company so i have no idea why you even brought this up. --- Playing: Luigi's Mansion 3; Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order; Hades; Dead Cells; You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:952350807] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>Is the difference you still do whatever china tells you to do because in order to do business in china you have to partner with a chinese company and valve was the publisher that paved the way for everyone that followed?</quote> nope. it's about where the trust lies. while valve may be somewhat questionable about consumer friendliness, i trust them vastly more than the Chinese gov't. I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>just like they did with bringing loot boxes to AAA gaming?</quote> im not trying to argue Valve is a perfect, totally consumer friendly company so i have no idea why you even brought this up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/01/21 11:03:20 AM #16:	Giant_Aspirin posted... nope. oh so the difference is epic is a public company who can't control who owns their shares and has to legally share it while valve doesn't, actively pursued a china partnership, and you just take their word and it's just a coincidence they always take china's side. Got it. my bad. Giant_Aspirin posted... im not trying to argue Valve is a perfect, totally consumer friendly company so i have no idea why you even brought this up. why bring up that valve has consistently been one of the greediest and scummy companies in gaming outside of mobile in a topic where gamers bitch about epic because omg another launcher. Real barn burner that one is. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:952350909] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote> nope.</quote> oh so the difference is epic is a public company who can't control who owns their shares and has to legally share it while valve doesn't, actively pursued a china partnership, and you just take their word and it's just a coincidence they always take china's side. Got it. my bad. Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote> im not trying to argue Valve is a perfect, totally consumer friendly company so i have no idea why you even brought this up.</quote> why bring up that valve has consistently been one of the greediest and scummy companies in gaming outside of mobile in a topic where gamers bitch about epic because omg another launcher. Real barn burner that one is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frizzurd 04/01/21 11:03:47 AM #17:	I only buy a few Nintendo games. I refused to buy Mario Kart 8 a second time despite loving it. I stopped playing any EA games after Mass Effect 3. I refuse to play subscription based MMORPGs. Gotcha games "gotchya" by the balls, so I don't do that either. --- Super Mario Maker 2: Cauca Ape JVC-2R6-4QG <cite>Frizzurd posted [p:952350920] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>I only buy a few Nintendo games. I refused to buy Mario Kart 8 a second time despite loving it. I stopped playing any EA games after Mass Effect 3. I refuse to play subscription based MMORPGs. Gotcha games "gotchya" by the balls, so I don't do that either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyle1022 04/01/21 11:07:24 AM #18:	A LOT of corporations bend the knee for China. Even the extremely liberal NBA censored its players and coaches/employees from sticking up for Hong Kong, because they didn't want to lose that sweet Chinese money. So picking on Valve for doing it seems a bit silly. There is a clear difference between censoring some stuff so that you can release in a different region and earn some extra money (many game companies do this), and having direct ties to the Chinese government. <cite>Kyle1022 posted [p:952351028] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>A LOT of corporations bend the knee for China. Even the extremely liberal NBA censored its players and coaches/employees from sticking up for Hong Kong, because they didn't want to lose that sweet Chinese money. So picking on Valve for doing it seems a bit silly. There is a clear difference between censoring some stuff so that you can release in a different region and earn some extra money (many game companies do this), and having direct ties to the Chinese government. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/01/21 11:10:11 AM #19:	Kyle1022 posted... and having direct ties to the Chinese government. I Like Toast posted... in order to do business in china you have to partner with a chinese company there is no way to do business in china without a direct tie to the chinese government. Kyle1022 posted... So picking on Valve for doing it seems a bit silly. but picking on Epic for it is a-okay. Fucking epic, how dare you make me install another launcher! maybe you can make the logical conclusion that it's dumb to pick on any company for it, because no one is turning down a billion potential customers. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:952351112] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Kyle1022 posted... </cite> <quote>and having direct ties to the Chinese government.</quote> I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>in order to do business in china you have to partner with a chinese company</quote> there is no way to do business in china without a direct tie to the chinese government. Kyle1022 posted... </cite> <quote>So picking on Valve for doing it seems a bit silly.</quote> but picking on Epic for it is a-okay. Fucking epic, how dare you make me install another launcher! maybe you can make the logical conclusion that it's dumb to pick on any company for it, because no one is turning down a billion potential customers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 04/01/21 11:11:11 AM #20:	I Like Toast posted... oh so the difference is epic is a public company who can't control who owns their shares and has to legally share it while valve doesn't, actively pursued a china partnership, and you just take their word and it's just a coincidence they always take china's side. Got it. my bad. valve not being public is definitely a good thing for them. i fear the day when Gaben sells his soul and goes public. i dont trust any company that is significantly owned by China. one reason i wont touch Tik Tok. it's ok buddy. I Like Toast posted... why bring up that valve has consistently been one of the greediest and scummy companies in gaming outside of mobile in a topic where gamers bitch about epic because omg another launcher. Real barn burner that one is. again. that has nothing at all to do with what i said. but thanks for playing --- Playing: Luigi's Mansion 3; Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order; Hades; Dead Cells; You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:952351139] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>oh so the difference is epic is a public company who can't control who owns their shares and has to legally share it while valve doesn't, actively pursued a china partnership, and you just take their word and it's just a coincidence they always take china's side. Got it. my bad.</quote> valve not being public is definitely a good thing for them. i fear the day when Gaben sells his soul and goes public. i dont trust any company that is significantly owned by China. one reason i wont touch Tik Tok. it's ok buddy. I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>why bring up that valve has consistently been one of the greediest and scummy companies in gaming outside of mobile in a topic where gamers bitch about epic because omg another launcher. Real barn burner that one is.</quote> again. that has nothing at all to do with what i said. but thanks for playing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 04/01/21 11:12:05 AM #21:	Gamers are not known for rational thinking as a rule --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:952351172] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Gamers are not known for rational thinking as a rule </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 04/01/21 11:13:49 AM #22:	pinky0926 posted... Gamers are not known for rational thinking as a rule very true --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:952351236] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>Gamers are not known for rational thinking as a rule</quote>very true </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/01/21 11:22:49 AM #23:	Giant_Aspirin posted... i fear the day when Gaben sells his soul implying he hasn't already. Drm not effective? gabe's gotcha Not making enough money? gabe's got your loot boxes and not giving them up when the majority of publishers have gone away from lootboxes after battlefront 2. Having to pay artist fair wages and benefits? outsource that shit to the community like gabe and pocket the savings. Someone made a fun game? buy them and if they can't monetize it with community filled lootboxes kill it. you want a new half life game? better buy a vr set we invested in and failed to get a return on. what 'soul' is there left for him to sell? Fuck if people are up in arms about bobby kotick's pay, imagine how much they'd bend over backwards to defend gabe's. Giant_Aspirin posted... i dont trust any company that is significantly owned by China and yet you think valve is any different, when they make all of the exact same decisions. the exact same data collection policies. because dear god, your steam library is at risk! Giant_Aspirin posted... again. that has nothing at all to do with what i said. but thanks for playing Yes all you said is you love valve's pro-china policy. unlike epic's bad pro-china policy. Because uhhh, steam library! --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:952351484] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote>i fear the day when Gaben sells his soul</quote> implying he hasn't already. Drm not effective? gabe's gotcha Not making enough money? gabe's got your loot boxes and not giving them up when the majority of publishers have gone away from lootboxes after battlefront 2. Having to pay artist fair wages and benefits? outsource that shit to the community like gabe and pocket the savings. Someone made a fun game? buy them and if they can't monetize it with community filled lootboxes kill it. you want a new half life game? better buy a vr set we invested in and failed to get a return on. what 'soul' is there left for him to sell? Fuck if people are up in arms about bobby kotick's pay, imagine how much they'd bend over backwards to defend gabe's. Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote> i dont trust any company that is significantly owned by China</quote> and yet you think valve is any different, when they make all of the exact same decisions. the exact same data collection policies. because dear god, your steam library is at risk! Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote> again. that has nothing at all to do with what i said. but thanks for playing</quote> Yes all you said is you love valve's pro-china policy. unlike epic's bad pro-china policy. Because uhhh, steam library! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 04/01/21 11:25:53 AM #24:	again i've never ever said Valve was perfect WRT being consumer friendly. you wondered why someone might be OK with Valve and not Epic and i gave you a reason. that's all. I Like Toast posted... and yet you think valve is any different, Giant_Aspirin posted... it's about where the trust lies. so, yeah. we can go round and round all day. ill keep pasting the same thing until you understand. I Like Toast posted... Yes all you said is you love valve's pro-china policy. i did not say such a thing. this is why arguing with you is insufferable sometimes. happy to continue the discussion but i wont address anymore fallacies. --- Playing: Luigi's Mansion 3; Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order; Hades; Dead Cells; You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:952351567] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>again i've never ever said Valve was perfect WRT being consumer friendly. you wondered why someone might be OK with Valve and not Epic and i gave you a reason. that's all. I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>and yet you think valve is any different,</quote> Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote>it's about where the trust lies.</quote> so, yeah. we can go round and round all day. ill keep pasting the same thing until you understand. I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>Yes all you said is you love valve's pro-china policy.</quote> i did not say such a thing. this is why arguing with you is insufferable sometimes. happy to continue the discussion but i wont address anymore fallacies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/01/21 11:31:51 AM #25:	Giant_Aspirin posted... . you wondered why someone might be OK with Valve and not Epic and i gave you a reason Where was I wondering? for a guy who keeps doing "this has nothing to do with my post even though i walked into a topic about gamers being pissy about epic despite valve having a far worse history" you sure don't like to practice what you preach. Someone is okay with valve because their steam library is with valve and they don't want to lose it. There is nothing to trust with valve, they have already repeatedly sided with china. They already partnered with china. They already do what china tells them. Even blizzard only gave a temp ban for supporting taiwan, valve permanently blacklisted a dota 2 host for making a joke about chinese censorship. Giant_Aspirin posted... i did not say such a thing. weird, since i asked you three times what the difference was and you couldn't name a single difference. but valve bending to china's will is good. epic having stocks bought by china is bad. because uhhhh 'trust' that valve will continue to cater to china's whims? --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:952351738] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote>. you wondered why someone might be OK with Valve and not Epic and i gave you a reason</quote> Where was I wondering? for a guy who keeps doing "this has nothing to do with my post even though i walked into a topic about gamers being pissy about epic despite valve having a far worse history" you sure don't like to practice what you preach. Someone is okay with valve because their steam library is with valve and they don't want to lose it. There is nothing to trust with valve, they have already repeatedly sided with china. They already partnered with china. They already do what china tells them. Even blizzard only gave a temp ban for supporting taiwan, valve permanently blacklisted a dota 2 host for making a joke about chinese censorship. Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote> i did not say such a thing.</quote> weird, since i asked you three times what the difference was and you couldn't name a single difference. but valve bending to china's will is good. epic having stocks bought by china is bad. because uhhhh 'trust' that valve will continue to cater to china's whims? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 04/01/21 11:33:52 AM #26:	This topic speaks to me on a personal level to the point where I thought I blacked out and had no memory of making it myself. Ive been talking about how hypocritical gamers have been about EGS AND their over inflated love of all things Nintendo for a loooong time now. Yall are speaking nothing but truth right now. If literally any other company did the shit Nintendo did they would be massacred online. Dont even tell me oh people complain about Nintendo a lot horse shit. Nobody holds Nintendo to any kind of standard and they get away with murder pretty much on the regular. Literally any other company releases a game like Pokmon Sword/Shield quality wise and they will never hear the end of it. Cyberpunk and No Mans Sky by comparison have burned so many bridges that people will continue to talk about how let down they were. Forgetting the fact the companies are actively pumping out huge free updates and are trying to right those ships constantly. The fuck does Nintendo do with one of their turds? Oh thats right. Sit back and collect billions from their Stormtrooper loyalists. --- Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch <cite>SwayM posted [p:952351810] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>This topic speaks to me on a personal level to the point where I thought I blacked out and had no memory of making it myself. Ive been talking about how hypocritical gamers have been about EGS AND their over inflated love of all things Nintendo for a loooong time now. Yall are speaking nothing but truth right now. If literally any other company did the shit Nintendo did they would be massacred online. Dont even tell me oh people complain about Nintendo a lot horse shit. Nobody holds Nintendo to any kind of standard and they get away with murder pretty much on the regular. Literally any other company releases a game like Pokmon Sword/Shield quality wise and they will never hear the end of it. Cyberpunk and No Mans Sky by comparison have burned so many bridges that people will continue to talk about how let down they were. Forgetting the fact the companies are actively pumping out huge free updates and are trying to right those ships constantly. The fuck does Nintendo do with one of their turds? Oh thats right. Sit back and collect billions from their Stormtrooper loyalists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 04/01/21 11:34:59 AM #27:	The people that hate Epic aren't necessarily the same people that defend Nintendo. I sure as hell don't defend Nintendo's bs. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:952351851] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>The people that hate Epic aren't necessarily the same people that defend Nintendo. I sure as hell don't defend Nintendo's bs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 04/01/21 11:43:04 AM #28:	People complain about Nintendo 24/7. Just let people play the games if they want to. You dont have to. Shigeru Miyamoto can't hurt you. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:952352127] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>People complain about Nintendo 24/7. Just let people play the games if they want to. You dont have to. Shigeru Miyamoto can't hurt you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 04/01/21 11:44:40 AM #29:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... People complain about Nintendo 24/7. Just let people play the games if they want to. You dont have to. Shigeru Miyamoto can't hurt you. SwayM posted... Dont even tell me oh people complain about Nintendo a lot horse shit. Nobody holds Nintendo to any kind of standard Imagine Nintendo actually putting out AAA as a AAA studio. --- Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch <cite>SwayM posted [p:952352170] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite> <quote>People complain about Nintendo 24/7. Just let people play the games if they want to. You dont have to. Shigeru Miyamoto can't hurt you.</quote> SwayM posted... </cite> <quote>Dont even tell me oh people complain about Nintendo a lot horse shit. Nobody holds Nintendo to any kind of standard</quote> Imagine Nintendo actually putting out AAA as a AAA studio. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Number090684 04/01/21 11:45:37 AM #30:	Drpooplol posted... Also Gamers: omg I LOVE Nintendo Yeah.... Nintendo has been fucking up for awhile now.... The horrible Wii U game droughts, porting almost all good Wii U exclusives to Switch at full price to pad the release schedule, not putting out enough new Switch exclusives in recent years and relying on ports, Switch 1st party exclusive game droughts, very limited number of collector's editions, limited amiibo availablity and support, and now limited time availability on some not only physical games, but also digital games. Nintendo might end up rivaling EA and Activision soon in anti consumer bullshit. I mean I love a lot of Nintendo's IPs but they've really been fucking up quite a bit over the years, despite having their occasional successes as well. <cite>Number090684 posted [p:952352210] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Drpooplol posted... </cite> <quote>Also Gamers: omg I LOVE Nintendo </quote> Yeah.... Nintendo has been fucking up for awhile now.... The horrible Wii U game droughts, porting almost all good Wii U exclusives to Switch at full price to pad the release schedule, not putting out enough new Switch exclusives in recent years and relying on ports, Switch 1st party exclusive game droughts, very limited number of collector's editions, limited amiibo availablity and support, and now limited time availability on some not only physical games, but also digital games. Nintendo might end up rivaling EA and Activision soon in anti consumer bullshit. I mean I love a lot of Nintendo's IPs but they've really been fucking up quite a bit over the years, despite having their occasional successes as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/01/21 11:46:48 AM #31:	Nintendo came into people's lives when we were young. They had a colorful turtle and the fat hero. So because of that past, cover and over people give Nintendo a pass for all the horrible shit that they do. They are no better if not worse than EA. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:952352255] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Nintendo came into people's lives when we were young. They had a colorful turtle and the fat hero. So because of that past, cover and over people give Nintendo a pass for all the horrible shit that they do. They are no better if not worse than EA. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 04/01/21 11:49:16 AM #32:	cjsdowg posted... Nintendo came into people's lives when we were young. They had a colorful turtle and the fat hero. So because of that past, cover and over people give Nintendo a pass for all the horrible shit that they do. They are no better if not worse than EA. While true. Nintendo always skews young. Im old enough to remember a Nintendo that meant you were buying quality on name alone. Now that name has carried down to younger generations where this is so far beyond true its not even funny. --- Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch <cite>SwayM posted [p:952352342] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite> <quote>Nintendo came into people's lives when we were young. They had a colorful turtle and the fat hero. So because of that past, cover and over people give Nintendo a pass for all the horrible shit that they do. They are no better if not worse than EA.</quote> While true. Nintendo always skews young. Im old enough to remember a Nintendo that meant you were buying quality on name alone. Now that name has carried down to younger generations where this is so far beyond true its not even funny. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyle1022 04/01/21 12:41:02 PM #33:	I Like Toast posted... there is no way to do business in china without a direct tie to the chinese government. That's correct, and my post (the portion you conveniently didn't quote) implied that. Are you really trying to argue that Valve is involved with the Chinese government on the same level that Tencent (and thus Epic) is? Because that's just being willfully ignorant. <cite>Kyle1022 posted [p:952354007] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>there is no way to do business in china without a direct tie to the chinese government.</quote>That's correct, and my post (the portion you conveniently didn't quote) implied that. Are you really trying to argue that Valve is involved with the Chinese government on the same level that Tencent (and thus Epic) is? Because that's just being willfully ignorant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 04/01/21 12:43:36 PM #34:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... People complain about Nintendo 24/7. Just let people play the games if they want to. You dont have to. Shigeru Miyamoto can't hurt you. I don't give a fuck what people play. Hell my most played game of 2020 was Super Mario Maker 2 --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:952354098] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite> <quote>People complain about Nintendo 24/7. Just let people play the games if they want to. You dont have to. Shigeru Miyamoto can't hurt you.</quote>I don't give a fuck what people play. Hell my most played game of 2020 was Super Mario Maker 2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 04/01/21 12:45:55 PM #36:	Tbf: because of nintendo prices i buy waaay more Sony stuff. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:952354159] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Tbf: because of nintendo prices i buy waaay more Sony stuff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 04/01/21 12:46:32 PM #37:	I dont hate Epic, Im just never going to use their services. Nintendo I will though because they make good games --- I try to laugh about it, hiding the tears in my eyes. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:952354181] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>I dont hate Epic, Im just never going to use their services. Nintendo I will though because they make good games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Number090684 04/01/21 12:58:46 PM #39:	Conflict posted... The only anti-consumer practices you really listed here were ones relevant to supply/limited availability. Wii U games getting exposed to a wider playerbase and not being stuck on a failed system is not an anti-consumer practice. And while game droughts do suck, Sony and MS are both guilty about that as well. PS5 and XSX literally have nothing out right now and won't for a very long time. Nintendo does some real dumb shit but you are not making a good argument for them being close to EA and Activision at all. Charging full price for those ports, and padding the release schedule and acting like they are significant releases we should be thankful for is. <cite>Number090684 posted [p:952354623] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>The only anti-consumer practices you really listed here were ones relevant to supply/limited availability. Wii U games getting exposed to a wider playerbase and not being stuck on a failed system is not an anti-consumer practice. And while game droughts do suck, Sony and MS are both guilty about that as well. PS5 and XSX literally have nothing out right now and won't for a very long time. Nintendo does some real dumb shit but you are not making a good argument for them being close to EA and Activision at all.</quote> Charging full price for those ports, and padding the release schedule and acting like they are significant releases we should be thankful for is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 04/01/21 1:01:16 PM #40:	Number090684 posted... Charging full price for those ports, and padding the release schedule and acting like they are significant releases we should be thankful for is. The Nintendo CEO has twice cut his own salary for disappointing customers. Nintendo doesn't really do "you should be thankful for us existing." https://www.bbc.com/news/business-25941070 https://www.wired.com/2011/07/nintendo-satoru-iwata-pay-cut/ --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:952354704] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Number090684 posted... </cite> <quote>Charging full price for those ports, and padding the release schedule and acting like they are significant releases we should be thankful for is.</quote> The Nintendo CEO has twice cut his own salary for disappointing customers. Nintendo doesn't really do "you should be thankful for us existing." https://www.bbc.com/news/business-25941070 https://www.wired.com/2011/07/nintendo-satoru-iwata-pay-cut/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/01/21 1:02:54 PM #41:	To be fair, Nintendo's shitty business practices are more incompetence than actual malice, at least since Hiroshi Yamauchi finally retired. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:952354759] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, Nintendo's shitty business practices are more incompetence than actual malice, at least since Hiroshi Yamauchi finally retired. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Number090684 04/01/21 1:06:58 PM #42:	s0nicfan posted... The Nintendo CEO has twice cut his own salary for disappointing customers. Nintendo doesn't really do "you should be thankful for us existing." https://www.bbc.com/news/business-25941070 https://www.wired.com/2011/07/nintendo-satoru-iwata-pay-cut/ That is old as hell back when Iwata was at the helm and the Wii U was struggling and they had to actually try to keep consumers happy to stay afloat. That is a farcry from the current status of Nintendo today. <cite>Number090684 posted [p:952354883] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>The Nintendo CEO has twice cut his own salary for disappointing customers. Nintendo doesn't really do "you should be thankful for us existing." https://www.bbc.com/news/business-25941070 https://www.wired.com/2011/07/nintendo-satoru-iwata-pay-cut/</quote> That is old as hell back when Iwata was at the helm and the Wii U was struggling and they had to actually try to keep consumers happy to stay afloat. That is a farcry from the current status of Nintendo today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SevenTenths 04/01/21 1:15:15 PM #43:	Kyle1022 posted... Because that's just being willfully ignorant. No, if I was willfully ignorant I'd be you. Valve has already repeatedly sided with China and will do whatever the ccp tells them to do. Meanwhile you think a minority owner is controlling epic any differently than valve is being controlled. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all. I Like Toast Alt - https://mikelikesthis.net/ The Blog Is back <cite>SevenTenths posted [p:952355184] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Kyle1022 posted... </cite> <quote>Because that's just being willfully ignorant.</quote> No, if I was willfully ignorant I'd be you. Valve has already repeatedly sided with China and will do whatever the ccp tells them to do. Meanwhile you think a minority owner is controlling epic any differently than valve is being controlled. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 04/01/21 3:10:16 PM #44:	Questionmarktarius posted... To be fair, Nintendo's shitty business practices are more incompetence than actual malice, at least since Hiroshi Yamauchi finally retired. Almost all problems to gamers could boil down to incompetence rather than malice. If theyre even actually problems to begin with that is. i cant think of too many examples where people are out to target gamers....Gamers! --- Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch <cite>SwayM posted [p:952358968] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>To be fair, Nintendo's shitty business practices are more incompetence than actual malice, at least since Hiroshi Yamauchi finally retired.</quote> Almost all problems to gamers could boil down to incompetence rather than malice. If theyre even actually problems to begin with that is. i cant think of too many examples where people are out to target gamers....Gamers! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jshipp24 04/01/21 3:37:40 PM #45:	Slayer_22 posted... I'm such a hypocrite with this shit. EA pissed me off by adding lootboxes into BF2, which meant I had less reason to buy their game. Yet I spend money on gacha games quite regularly. But then, when I think about this, I just don't really care. Like, who the fuck cares if I'm a hypocrite? I'm enjoying myself. It's fucking video games. Not defending gacha games, but BF2 was a 60$ game on release while majority of gachas are f2p <cite>Jshipp24 posted [p:952359901] in Gamers: om... [t:79381224]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm such a hypocrite with this shit. EA pissed me off by adding lootboxes into BF2, which meant I had less reason to buy their game. Yet I spend money on gacha games quite regularly. But then, when I think about this, I just don't really care. Like, who the fuck cares if I'm a hypocrite? I'm enjoying myself. It's fucking video games.</quote>Not defending gacha games, but BF2 was a 60$ game on release while majority of gachas are f2p </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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