Current Events > Second language english speakers, is cursive bull shit?

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Do they even teach it anymore? I remember having to write in cursive in 5th and 6th grade, print was not allowed

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Its a nice skill to have but not at all a necessity. The only time i write cursive is when Im signing my name.

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People who's first language uses the Roman alphabet probably do fine. But I wonder about people from like Asia or the Middle East. Cursive is probably annoying for them

Most of the letters are similar enough to their regular counterparts that I cant imagine it would be hard for someone to read *legibly written* cursive.

This feels like a weird meme, like insisting zoomers dont know what a VHS tape is >_>

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Is cursive only an English thing? I never thought about it.

Actually, I feel like my Spanish teacher in high school wrote in cursive a lot.

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Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Do they even teach it anymore?

I can confidently say they don't.

Zikten posted...

People who's first language uses the Roman alphabet probably do fine. But I wonder about people from like Asia or the Middle East. Cursive is probably annoying for them

I've seen posts on Reddit get to the front page where there's an image of some old letter handwritten in cursive, and sometimes the OP or top-rated reply is a "transcription" of what it says.

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i have never really understood americans' cursive hate meme

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KainWind posted...

Is cursive only an English thing? I never thought about it.

Actually, I feel like my Spanish teacher in high school wrote in cursive a lot.

Ya know, I didnt think of that. I feel also sorts-o ignorant and western European pov focused now

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Unsugarized_Foo posted...

I do both when I write

is this really not everyone???

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Idk how a non native English speaker perceives English cursive but it literally cant be worse than Russian cursive (which is legitimately their only form of handwriting, yet even most native russians have trouble reading a lot of peoples handwriting).



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2SweetforTurtle posted...

Idk how a non native English speaker perceives English cursive but it literally cant be worse than Russian cursive (which is legitimately their only form of handwriting, yet even most native russians have trouble reading a lot of peoples handwriting).

this is accurate

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Choco posted...

i have never really understood americans' cursive hate meme

I dislike it because a person's handwriting greatly dictates if i can read it. Print even the worst i can usually decipher.

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I don't mind it. It's mostly just useful for signatures, though.

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2SweetforTurtle posted...

Idk how a non native English speaker perceives English cursive but it literally cant be worse than Russian cursive (which is legitimately their only form of handwriting, yet even most native russians have trouble reading a lot of peoples handwriting).

Ha, this is how we'll keep the AI at bay with our communication while we tunnel and hide

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English 1st and only language here. I can write in cursive, but only do for my signature. It's definitely harder to read other people's cursive writing.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

I dislike it because a person's handwriting greatly dictates if i can read it. Print even the worst i can usually decipher.

...it's ugly when they write too fast. print makes it impossible to write fast. the faster i write, the more cursive it becomes.

seriously why are y'all so weird about this

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KainWind posted...

Is cursive only an English thing? I never thought about it.

Actually, I feel like my Spanish teacher in high school wrote in cursive a lot.

IIRC, Hiragana is actually the cursive version of specific Kanji.
Or something like that :V

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Choco posted...

...it's ugly when they write too fast. print makes it impossible to write fast. the faster i write, the more cursive it becomes.

seriously why are y'all so weird about this

I can write in print fast. Just makes it look like a 1st graders handwriting.

I wouldnt say im weird about it. I just dont like not being able to read some peoples handwriting. Outside signatures it has no real purpose in day to day life print doesnt work just as well.

Hell how many peope as adults do a lot of writing in normal daily life these days anyways? I do but there is legitimate reasons my job dont want computers and shit around the job posts.

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Why second language English speakers only? Lol

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most teenagers I know can't really read cursive and have no idea how to write it. It's a dead form in the US

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masticatingman posted...

Why second language English speakers only? Lol

Cant speak for TC but I've personally wondered if it confused people learning English that we basically have 2 forms of our written language. Granted I dont know if thats in anyway common with other languages. Didnt know Russian cursive existed till this topic.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

Cant speak for TC but I've personally wondered if it confused people learning English that we basically have 2 forms of our written language. Granted I dont know if thats in anyway common with other languages. Didnt know Russian cursive existed till this topic.

that might be the reason but it's silly to phrase the title like that when most esl people on ce are europeans whose native language uses the same "writing system"

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Choco posted...

that might be the reason but it's silly to phrase the title like that when most esl people on ce are europeans whose native language uses the same "writing system"

Well tc did specifically ask for people who dont have English as their 1st language. They may be a extreme minority on here but im sure they exist. I know some do o. The site in general not positive about CE.

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Cursive is the bomb. I don't get why people hate on it, I would hate writing if I had to write in block letters all the time

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2SweetforTurtle posted...

Idk how a non native English speaker perceives English cursive but it literally cant be worse than Russian cursive (which is legitimately their only form of handwriting, yet even most native russians have trouble reading a lot of peoples handwriting).

That's awesome. I love how Russian has a whole sublanguage consisting only of taboo words usually referred to as "mat" which means "mother" as in "fuck your mother." There's a whole genre of literature written purely in Mat.


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I can read it and write it. I never see it used outside of random signatures so I think its pointless.

boomers, their parents and their grandparents tried to make this catch on but its become obsolete as a writing style and boomers are mad about it.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

Well tc did specifically ask for people who dont have English as their 1st language.

yes that's literally what i commented on >_>

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Choco posted...

yes that's literally what i commented on >_>

And whats the problem? He wanted their opinion specifically because there is a decent chance they have a different outlook on it.

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2SweetforTurtle posted...

Idk how a non native English speaker perceives English cursive but it literally cant be worse than Russian cursive (which is legitimately their only form of handwriting, yet even most native russians have trouble reading a lot of peoples handwriting).

This explains so much about Donald Trumps signature.

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ProfessorKukui posted...

why is 2nd language relevant to cursive?

Because for some I assume they didnt grow up with it being a half way normal thing like a lot of us. I mean think about it. You learn a new language get readinf and writing it down pat then get told there is a secondary way of writing it. I dont care what anyone says some cursive letters look nothing like the print version

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Y'all are like "OMG we have 2 ways of writing the same alphabet, ESL people must freak!" How many different writing systems do the Japanese have?

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mooreandrew58 posted...

Because for some I assume they didnt grow up with it being a half way normal thing like a lot of us. I mean think about it. You learn a new language get readinf and writing it down pat then get told there is a secondary way of writing it. I dont care what anyone says some cursive letters look nothing like the print version

Cursive writing is cursive writing, you don't need to learn it differently for English or Portuguese or Spanish or whatever... only other languages that don't use the roman alphabet I guess
In regards to it being a normal thing it may be just falling in disuse errywhere by now

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i missed the cursive classes in elementary school, i've got absolutely shit vision and at the time was getting pulled out of that time slot for 'special education' sessions that did absolutely nothing useful unless the ability to halfass read braille is useful so i never picked up the skill. i cant write it and can barely read it and i cant see the point in this day and age when typing is a far more useful skill.

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Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Do they even teach it anymore? I remember having to write in cursive in 5th and 6th grade, print was not allowed

My kids went to a Catholic school for a few years and they still taught it there. Now they are in public and all the kids are amazed that they know how to write in cursive since no other kid knows how. The kids in my youngers class actually asked the teacher if what she was writing was a real thing.
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I haven't needed to write anything in cursive besides my name in over 15 years. Absolutely pointless.
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mech dragon posted...

boomers, their parents and their grandparents tried to make this catch on but its become obsolete as a writing style and boomers are mad about it.

Gooood. Good.

I had cursive in year 1 of Catholic school. Even back then I was like fuck this shit. Glad to see the world following suit.

2SweetforTurtle posted...

Idk how a non native English speaker perceives English cursive but it literally cant be worse than Russian cursive (which is legitimately their only form of handwriting, yet even most native russians have trouble reading a lot of peoples handwriting).

Hello nightmares.
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Cursive is as exclusive to English as Comic Sans is. It's just a typeface. We learned it in school as well, but no one really bothered to make us keep using it as we grew up. I can see how it's useful, especially before typing was a huge thing, but at this point it's more just a learning tool than anything else.

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Yes, and English is my first language.

It actually takes me *longer* to sign with cursive instead of print, and it always looks like dog shit anyway, and I sure as fuck can't read anybody else's cursive either.

Legitimately glad that it's a dying form.
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the only thing i write in cursive is my signature
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Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...

It actually takes me *longer* to sign with cursive instead of print

i mean that's a you problem tbh >_>

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First language English speaker and it sucks. They pounded it into you during your early school years to where some wouldn't even accept papers/work in print form. Then in high school nobody cared. My handwriting is horrible in general, but thanks to the cursive crap I've had to rewrite a couple of essays.

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