mo, no white people allowed

Topic List	Page List: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Lorenzo_2003 03/25/21 10:55:40 PM #103:	The one dude talking the most here is (or was) a teacher. The other guy is a lawyer. Theyre advocating for a racist program... to somehow stop racism. This feels like an episode of Black Mirror or The Twilight Zone. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:952122711] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>The one dude talking the most here is (or was) a teacher. The other guy is a lawyer. Theyre advocating for a racist program... to somehow stop racism. This feels like an episode of Black Mirror or The Twilight Zone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
muchdran 03/25/21 10:59:16 PM #104:	Alucard188 posted... I'm Ok with this. $500 a month is almost nothing in the grand scheme of things, but if it can help alleviate some of the issues plaguing BIPOC families, then good. Bipoc? <cite>muchdran posted [p:952122799] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Alucard188 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm Ok with this. $500 a month is almost nothing in the grand scheme of things, but if it can help alleviate some of the issues plaguing BIPOC families, then good.</quote>Bipoc? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathDeathSong 03/25/21 11:02:33 PM #105:	ZMythos posted... So quit pretending like this is actively hurting people and accept that giving more economic freedom to black families is nothing short of an absolute good. you gotta understand, its hurting their *FEELINGS* anyway this is a good thing, a lotta mad white people itt --- MY HEARTS GO OUT TO ALL YOU SINNERS!! The game is set! Now.........................stay tuned. <cite>DeathDeathSong posted [p:952122896] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted... </cite> <quote>So quit pretending like this is actively hurting people and accept that giving more economic freedom to black families is nothing short of an absolute good.</quote>you gotta understand, its hurting their FEELINGS anyway this is a good thing, a lotta mad white people itt </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 03/25/21 11:11:57 PM #106:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... The one dude talking the most here is (or was) a teacher. The other guy is a lawyer. Theyre advocating for a racist program... to somehow stop racism. This feels like an episode of Black Mirror or The Twilight Zone. Can you rationally explain to me how a group that's the same as other humans is going to catch up to others with a several hundred year head start without some type of preferential treatment? Wouldn't they need to go into warp drive to catch up without help on the same scale as their oppression? --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:952123186] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote>The one dude talking the most here is (or was) a teacher. The other guy is a lawyer. Theyre advocating for a racist program... to somehow stop racism. This feels like an episode of Black Mirror or The Twilight Zone.</quote> Can you rationally explain to me how a group that's the same as other humans is going to catch up to others with a several hundred year head start without some type of preferential treatment? Wouldn't they need to go into warp drive to catch up without help on the same scale as their oppression? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suikoden420 03/25/21 11:24:03 PM #107:	legendary_zell posted... Can you rationally explain to me how a group that's the same as other humans is going to catch up to others with a several hundred year head start without some type of preferential treatment? Wouldn't they need to go into warp drive to catch up without help on the same scale as their oppression? Your perspective is skewed because you are classifying all white people within the same category and looking at things strictly by race. And the argument you are putting forth is racist. How much generational wealth do expect a white family with an income <59k to have? Likely nothing a really value. Some people act as if all white people are rich or come from rich families and its simply not the case. --- Come Nerevar, come and look upon the heart, Upon the heart Ooh! <cite>Suikoden420 posted [p:952123555] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>Can you rationally explain to me how a group that's the same as other humans is going to catch up to others with a several hundred year head start without some type of preferential treatment? Wouldn't they need to go into warp drive to catch up without help on the same scale as their oppression?</quote> Your perspective is skewed because you are classifying all white people within the same category and looking at things strictly by race. And the argument you are putting forth is racist. How much generational wealth do expect a white family with an income <59k to have? Likely nothing a really value. Some people act as if all white people are rich or come from rich families and its simply not the case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WashYourHands 03/25/21 11:25:13 PM #108:	This certain time periods racism and exclusion is responsible for this time periods oppression so we must make it right with more racism and exclusion --- 20 seconds is all it takes! <cite>WashYourHands posted [p:952123582] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>This certain time periods racism and exclusion is responsible for this time periods oppression so we must make it right with more racism and exclusion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 03/25/21 11:40:18 PM #109:	muchdran posted... Bipoc? Black, Indigenous, and People of Color --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:952124048] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>muchdran posted... </cite> <quote>Bipoc?</quote>Black, Indigenous, and People of Color </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 03/25/21 11:40:52 PM #110:	How do they know you arent white? <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:952124066] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>How do they know you arent white? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 03/25/21 11:48:22 PM #111:	RustyFerret posted... The defining question is whether the discrimination is creating equity or inequity. If discrimination is creating equity, then it is antiracist. If discrimination is creating inequity, then it is racist. Ibram X. Kendi, How to Be an Antiracist thats a pretty interesting view tbh. also people still talking about grandfather sins. Like bro, its your fathers sins. This shit didnt stop 100 years ago lol regardless of what the backwater textbooks you grew up with said. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:952124264] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>RustyFerret posted... </cite> <quote>The defining question is whether the discrimination is creating equity or inequity. If discrimination is creating equity, then it is antiracist. If discrimination is creating inequity, then it is racist. Ibram X. Kendi, How to Be an Antiracist</quote> thats a pretty interesting view tbh. also people still talking about grandfather sins. Like bro, its your fathers sins. This shit didnt stop 100 years ago lol regardless of what the backwater textbooks you grew up with said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 03/25/21 11:56:31 PM #112:	Suikoden420 posted... Your perspective is skewed because you are classifying all white people within the same category and looking at things strictly by race. And the argument you are putting forth is racist. How much generational wealth do expect a white family with an income <59k to have? Likely nothing a really value. Some people act as if all white people are rich or come from rich families and its simply not the case. I am not opposed to also helping poor white people very substantially. I do not believe that all white people are rich or wealthy or have retained significant generational wealth. My argument isn't focused on white people, it's focused on black people. Black people have had an unfathomable amount of wealth stripped from them and were restricted from accumulating wealth and income. That's had profound effects in terms of housing, education, employment, crime, you name it. Because of that, I do not believe that helping black people specifically is racist. Yes, racial classifications are not ideal, but history is not ideal and it's a mockery of justice to use a misguided concern for colorblind equality as a reason not to directly improve the material conditions of black people specifically. So in conclusion, I'm for both redistributing wealth to the poor and working class, regardless of race, even if that disproportionately helps white people, AND I'm in favor of specifically boosting black people in recognition of the deep deep hole that's been dug. Realistically, both must be done to avoid white backlash. But the issue is that many stand in the way of both because they're concerned that black people will benefit too much. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:952124492] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Suikoden420 posted... </cite> <quote>Your perspective is skewed because you are classifying all white people within the same category and looking at things strictly by race. And the argument you are putting forth is racist. How much generational wealth do expect a white family with an income <59k to have? Likely nothing a really value. Some people act as if all white people are rich or come from rich families and its simply not the case.</quote> I am not opposed to also helping poor white people very substantially. I do not believe that all white people are rich or wealthy or have retained significant generational wealth. My argument isn't focused on white people, it's focused on black people. Black people have had an unfathomable amount of wealth stripped from them and were restricted from accumulating wealth and income. That's had profound effects in terms of housing, education, employment, crime, you name it. Because of that, I do not believe that helping black people specifically is racist. Yes, racial classifications are not ideal, but history is not ideal and it's a mockery of justice to use a misguided concern for colorblind equality as a reason not to directly improve the material conditions of black people specifically. So in conclusion, I'm for both redistributing wealth to the poor and working class, regardless of race, even if that disproportionately helps white people, AND I'm in favor of specifically boosting black people in recognition of the deep deep hole that's been dug. Realistically, both must be done to avoid white backlash. But the issue is that many stand in the way of both because they're concerned that black people will benefit too much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HHH is the game 03/26/21 12:14:16 AM #113:	Makeveli_lives posted... It's private money fam. Out of curiosity would you also be ok if it was announcing a fund that was instead only giving white families the money? --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver <cite>HHH is the game posted [p:952125092] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Makeveli_lives posted... </cite> <quote>It's private money fam.</quote> Out of curiosity would you also be ok if it was announcing a fund that was instead only giving white families the money? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 03/26/21 12:15:15 AM #114:	Questionmarktarius posted... Will this survive a 14th amendment challenge? Hopefully not. AsucaHayashi posted... seems fair though i'm sure there are white families making just as little as the average non-white family. also, smells like communism xd Which is why it'd make more sense to have it be income-based and vary depending on what other services they already receive. If somebody is already has their rent paid, their meals paid, and/or their utilities paid by the government, they don't need the extra money. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:952125114] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Will this survive a 14th amendment challenge?</quote> Hopefully not. AsucaHayashi posted... </cite> <quote>seems fair though i'm sure there are white families making just as little as the average non-white family. also, smells like communism xd</quote> Which is why it'd make more sense to have it be income-based and vary depending on what other services they already receive. If somebody is already has their rent paid, their meals paid, and/or their utilities paid by the government, they don't need the extra money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HHH is the game 03/26/21 12:18:41 AM #115:	CapnMuffin posted... I fail to see how people who condemn shouting but all lives matter! can see this as bad. Its the exact same logic. Somehow when it comes to money or hand outs they put up blinders? Erm....no....the argument against "all lives matter" isnt that all lives DONT matter lmao --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver <cite>HHH is the game posted [p:952125215] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>CapnMuffin posted... </cite> <quote>I fail to see how people who condemn shouting but all lives matter! can see this as bad. Its the exact same logic. Somehow when it comes to money or hand outs they put up blinders?</quote> Erm....no....the argument against "all lives matter" isnt that all lives DONT matter lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 03/26/21 12:24:52 AM #116:	HHH is the game posted... Erm....no....the argument against "all lives matter" isnt that all lives DONT matter lmao You're missing his point. Calling this racist is "all lives matter"-ing economic inequality at the hands of systemic racism. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:952125335] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>HHH is the game posted... </cite> <quote>Erm....no....the argument against "all lives matter" isnt that all lives DONT matter lmao</quote>You're missing his point. Calling this racist is "all lives matter"-ing economic inequality at the hands of systemic racism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_True_King 03/26/21 12:27:00 AM #117:	Alucard188 posted... I'm Ok with this. $500 a month is almost nothing in the grand scheme of things, but if it can help alleviate some of the issues plaguing BIPOC families, then good. I'm sure you are mr.mod. SMH --- PSN:Daniel_Shadow170 https://psnprofiles.com/Daniel_Shadow170 2x all-American wrestler and 155 NAGA champ pro fighter <cite>The_True_King posted [p:952125388] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Alucard188 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm Ok with this. $500 a month is almost nothing in the grand scheme of things, but if it can help alleviate some of the issues plaguing BIPOC families, then good.</quote>I'm sure you are mr.mod. SMH </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gainerama 03/26/21 12:27:14 AM #118:	Zikten posted... As a poor white person, this annoys me but I want to know.... are they only giving money to black people? Or can other minorities get it too? Do Asians qualify? It's essentially only for black families because only black lives matter. In their eyes, the main visible minority in Oakland is black, native Indians are far and few in that city, Asians would never stoop that low for free handouts and Latinos are not considered legal people. At least that's the impression I get from this article. Only blacks qualify is the real message. <cite>Gainerama posted [p:952125391] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>As a poor white person, this annoys me but I want to know.... are they only giving money to black people? Or can other minorities get it too? Do Asians qualify?</quote> It's essentially only for black families because only black lives matter. In their eyes, the main visible minority in Oakland is black, native Indians are far and few in that city, Asians would never stoop that low for free handouts and Latinos are not considered legal people. At least that's the impression I get from this article. Only blacks qualify is the real message. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 03/26/21 12:28:59 AM #119:	The_True_King posted... I'm sure you are mr.mod. SMH There's nothing to shake your head at in Alucard's post. SMH --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:952125426] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>The_True_King posted...</cite><quote>I'm sure you are mr.mod. SMH</quote>There's nothing to shake your head at in Alucard's post. SMH</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 03/26/21 12:32:58 AM #120:	Gainerama posted... It's essentially only for black families because only black lives matter. In their eyes, the main visible minority in Oakland is black, native Indians are far and few in that city, Asians would never stoop that low for free handouts and Latinos are not considered legal people. At least that's the impression I get from this article. Only blacks qualify is the real message. This is either particularly heinous strawmanning or a total failure of reading comprehension. Do you think the unique treatment of black people could have something to do with...the unique treatment of black people in the past? If you wanted to make a good faith argument that all of these groups should also get some form of reparations for the harms done to them, that would be one thing and I would agree. If you wanted to argue that poor white people should also get money, that would be cool too. But that's clearly not what you're doing. Your pitting Asians against black people and implying that black people are stooping low for handouts also isn't going unnoticed. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:952125508] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Gainerama posted... </cite> <quote>It's essentially only for black families because only black lives matter. In their eyes, the main visible minority in Oakland is black, native Indians are far and few in that city, Asians would never stoop that low for free handouts and Latinos are not considered legal people. At least that's the impression I get from this article. Only blacks qualify is the real message.</quote> This is either particularly heinous strawmanning or a total failure of reading comprehension. Do you think the unique treatment of black people could have something to do with...the unique treatment of black people in the past? If you wanted to make a good faith argument that all of these groups should also get some form of reparations for the harms done to them, that would be one thing and I would agree. If you wanted to argue that poor white people should also get money, that would be cool too. But that's clearly not what you're doing. Your pitting Asians against black people and implying that black people are stooping low for handouts also isn't going unnoticed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mitch_Haniger 03/26/21 12:38:50 AM #121:	legendary_zell posted... This is either particularly heinous strawmanning or a total failure of reading comprehension. Do you think the unique treatment of black people could have something to do with...the unique treatment of black people in the past? If you wanted to make a good faith argument that all of these groups should also get some form of reparations for the harms done to them, that would be one thing and I would agree. If you wanted to argue that poor white people should also get money, that would be cool too. But that's clearly not what you're doing. Your pitting Asians against black people and implying that black people are stooping low for handouts also isn't going unnoticed. You do understand reparations and social justice is all a liberal talking point created in the late 20th century? To help their causes Racist handouts don't help equality causes --- "If people on this site truly believe this then I might as well be living in the twilight zone." https://imgur.com/py96mcP (thx gohan) <cite>Mitch_Haniger posted [p:952125654] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>This is either particularly heinous strawmanning or a total failure of reading comprehension. Do you think the unique treatment of black people could have something to do with...the unique treatment of black people in the past? If you wanted to make a good faith argument that all of these groups should also get some form of reparations for the harms done to them, that would be one thing and I would agree. If you wanted to argue that poor white people should also get money, that would be cool too. But that's clearly not what you're doing. Your pitting Asians against black people and implying that black people are stooping low for handouts also isn't going unnoticed.</quote>You do understand reparations and social justice is all a liberal talking point created in the late 20th century? To help their causes Racist handouts don't help equality causes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 03/26/21 12:44:13 AM #122:	Sounds good --- I'm the fly in the ointment, the spanner in the works. I'm unpredictable. I'm the X-Factor. - Jamie Madrox <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:952125784] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Sounds good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShyOx 03/26/21 12:51:32 AM #123:	I'm pretty left, I believe in UBI, and this just doesn't feel right. Completely excluding one race seems like a really bad way to go about this; how white is white? How black is black? This is not the way to do this. --- http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6938/vyqp.jpg DIPLOMACY <cite>ShyOx posted [p:952125942] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty left, I believe in UBI, and this just doesn't feel right. Completely excluding one race seems like a really bad way to go about this; how white is white? How black is black? This is not the way to do this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HHH is the game 03/26/21 12:59:58 AM #124:	ZMythos posted... You're missing his point. Calling this racist is "all lives matter"-ing economic inequality at the hands of systemic racism. No, it's not all lives matter'ing. All lives matter was talked against because it was obvious that all lives matter, they were just saying that black lives mattered also If people were saying "Only black lives matter" then yes, "All lives matter" would have been a proper response. --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver <cite>HHH is the game posted [p:952126104] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted... </cite> <quote>You're missing his point. Calling this racist is "all lives matter"-ing economic inequality at the hands of systemic racism.</quote> No, it's not all lives matter'ing. All lives matter was talked against because it was obvious that all lives matter, they were just saying that black lives mattered also If people were saying "Only black lives matter" then yes, "All lives matter" would have been a proper response. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 03/26/21 1:03:56 AM #125:	Why are so many acting like race based charities are a new thing? NAACP was established in 1909 and there's many scholarship programs for people of color. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:952126187] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Why are so many acting like race based charities are a new thing? NAACP was established in 1909 and there's many scholarship programs for people of color.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gretgrab 03/26/21 1:12:18 AM #126:	Sounds awful. --- McSame/Failin 08' <cite>Gretgrab posted [p:952126356] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Sounds awful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Siaperaz 03/26/21 1:14:01 AM #127:	It's crazy that this Alucard guy is allowed to be a mod here. Says a lot about this place. --- GO KNICKS!!! <cite>Siaperaz posted [p:952126390] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>It's crazy that this Alucard guy is allowed to be a mod here. Says a lot about this place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CloudThunder 03/26/21 1:14:11 AM #128:	yeah,the assault on whites continues huh? <cite>CloudThunder posted [p:952126394] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>yeah,the assault on whites continues huh? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 03/26/21 1:15:13 AM #129:	ShyOx posted... I'm pretty left, I believe in UBI, and this just doesn't feel right. Completely excluding one race seems like a really bad way to go about this; how white is white? How black is black? This is not the way to do this. reading other articles it sounds like 600 familys will likely receive it. Half of those spots are reserved for people making less than 30k the other half isnt specified but is eligible for up to 59k. If Im reading correctly it has to be someone with a child and a three person minimum household with a total income of 30/59k. Only eligible to Blacks, Indigenous, and POC. Reading more into it apparently this isnt new, but actually more of an expansion of something started in 2019. Honestly I cant find anything half as nefarious as what people keep trying to make it out to be ITT. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:952126414] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>ShyOx posted... </cite> <quote>I'm pretty left, I believe in UBI, and this just doesn't feel right. Completely excluding one race seems like a really bad way to go about this; how white is white? How black is black? This is not the way to do this.</quote> reading other articles it sounds like 600 familys will likely receive it. Half of those spots are reserved for people making less than 30k the other half isnt specified but is eligible for up to 59k. If Im reading correctly it has to be someone with a child and a three person minimum household with a total income of 30/59k. Only eligible to Blacks, Indigenous, and POC. Reading more into it apparently this isnt new, but actually more of an expansion of something started in 2019. Honestly I cant find anything half as nefarious as what people keep trying to make it out to be ITT. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 03/26/21 1:16:35 AM #130:	If it is private they can do what they want with the money but having the mayor announce it is pretty shady. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:952126445] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>If it is private they can do what they want with the money but having the mayor announce it is pretty shady. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 03/26/21 1:20:35 AM #131:	Monolith1676 posted... If it is private they can do what they want with the money but having the mayor announce it is pretty shady. not when you find out the historical roots of the initiate to create these programs. The idea came from Oakland, was created elsewhere, and now its essentially being expanded into Oakland, thus creating significance behind the announcement. How people feel about that will depend for sure, but the reason itself behind it happening makes sense imo. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:952126507] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Monolith1676 posted... </cite> <quote>If it is private they can do what they want with the money but having the mayor announce it is pretty shady.</quote> not when you find out the historical roots of the initiate to create these programs. The idea came from Oakland, was created elsewhere, and now its essentially being expanded into Oakland, thus creating significance behind the announcement. How people feel about that will depend for sure, but the reason itself behind it happening makes sense imo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 03/26/21 1:22:58 AM #132:	Zeeak4444 posted... not when you find out the historical roots of the initiate to create these programs. The idea came from Oakland, was created elsewhere, and now its essentially being expanded into Oakland, thus creating significance behind the announcement. How people feel about that will depend for sure, but the reason itself behind it happening makes sense imo. The government should have distanced themselves from it because it makes it look like the government is discriminating based on race. For all we know there may be some underlying assistance from the local government in Oakland. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:952126564] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted... </cite> <quote>not when you find out the historical roots of the initiate to create these programs. The idea came from Oakland, was created elsewhere, and now its essentially being expanded into Oakland, thus creating significance behind the announcement. How people feel about that will depend for sure, but the reason itself behind it happening makes sense imo.</quote> The government should have distanced themselves from it because it makes it look like the government is discriminating based on race. For all we know there may be some underlying assistance from the local government in Oakland. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 03/26/21 1:29:50 AM #133:	Monolith1676 posted... The government should have distanced themselves from it because it makes it look like the government is discriminating based on race. For all we know there may be some underlying assistance from the local government in Oakland. I feel like with all the blatant corruption that occurs and no one seems to care about, it really doesnt matter. Youll have people freak out about it either way, if not announced here it would have been hidden from everyone and blah blah blah. People will use it to push one agenda or another. People are also free, and encouraged, to dig into as much as they can to see if the local govt did anything. But its an idea that originated in Oakland, and now is being actualized in Oakland. The mayor announcing that is no different than any other mayor promoting an action or occurrence of a private entity, and a hell of a lot less sketchy than Duncan Hunter, who was just fucking pardoned, for literally just one comparison. So people can clutch pearls but actually digging into it Im not seeing anything sketchy or weird. Anyone whos found different is free to correct me though. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:952126697] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Monolith1676 posted... </cite> <quote>The government should have distanced themselves from it because it makes it look like the government is discriminating based on race. For all we know there may be some underlying assistance from the local government in Oakland.</quote> I feel like with all the blatant corruption that occurs and no one seems to care about, it really doesnt matter. Youll have people freak out about it either way, if not announced here it would have been hidden from everyone and blah blah blah. People will use it to push one agenda or another. People are also free, and encouraged, to dig into as much as they can to see if the local govt did anything. But its an idea that originated in Oakland, and now is being actualized in Oakland. The mayor announcing that is no different than any other mayor promoting an action or occurrence of a private entity, and a hell of a lot less sketchy than Duncan Hunter, who was just fucking pardoned, for literally just one comparison. So people can clutch pearls but actually digging into it Im not seeing anything sketchy or weird. Anyone whos found different is free to correct me though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 03/26/21 1:38:49 AM #134:	ShyOx posted... This is not the way to do this. --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:952126865] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>ShyOx posted... </cite> <quote> This is not the way to do this.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funcoland 03/26/21 1:40:03 AM #135:	On one hand... Good. On the other hand, this is the sort of shit liberals do and wonder why some people end up buying into nazi bullshit. When you're poor, you're poor... Black, white, Latin, Asian. The shit doesn't fucking matter. At best, it's well-intended stupidity. At worst, its a deliberate attempt to divide low income people and make them bitter towards each other. --- NNID: MisterNoOne \| PSN: The_Mistled <cite>Funcoland posted [p:952126883] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>On one hand... Good. On the other hand, this is the sort of shit liberals do and wonder why some people end up buying into nazi bullshit. When you're poor, you're poor... Black, white, Latin, Asian. The shit doesn't fucking matter. At best, it's well-intended stupidity. At worst, its a deliberate attempt to divide low income people and make them bitter towards each other. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 03/26/21 1:40:45 AM #136:	Webmaster4531 posted... Why are so many acting like race based charities are a new thing? NAACP was established in 1909 and there's many scholarship programs for people of color. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:952126900] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite><quote>Why are so many acting like race based charities are a new thing? NAACP was established in 1909 and there's many scholarship programs for people of color.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyle1022 03/26/21 1:45:38 AM #137:	It's pretty unfair if a family making $58k gets the extra money while a family making $40k doesn't get it, just because they have different skin colors. I get that minorities have it unfair in many ways, but two wrongs don't make a right. We should fix those areas of inequality instead of creating other areas of inequality. Feels like this period is gonna be looked back on as a weird overreaction to everything. Once everyone becomes varying shades of brown in the future, I just picture people looking back at this and going "LOL first they enslave people based on skin color then they literally give money to people with a certain skin color??? Wtf?" --- PC \| Switch \| Wii U \| Wii \| GC \| N64 \| SNES \| NES \| PS5 \| PS4 Pro \| PS3 \| PS2 \| PS1 \| Xbox Series X \| N3DS \| DSi \| GBA \| GBC \| Vita \| PSP <cite>Kyle1022 posted [p:952126990] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>It's pretty unfair if a family making $58k gets the extra money while a family making $40k doesn't get it, just because they have different skin colors. I get that minorities have it unfair in many ways, but two wrongs don't make a right. We should fix those areas of inequality instead of creating other areas of inequality. Feels like this period is gonna be looked back on as a weird overreaction to everything. Once everyone becomes varying shades of brown in the future, I just picture people looking back at this and going "LOL first they enslave people based on skin color then they literally give money to people with a certain skin color??? Wtf?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 03/26/21 2:00:25 AM #138:	Kyle1022 posted... It's pretty unfair if a family making $58k gets the extra money while a family making $40k doesn't get it, just because they have different skin colors. I get that minorities have it unfair in many ways, but two wrongs don't make a right. We should fix those areas of inequality instead of creating other areas of inequality. Feels like this period is gonna be looked back on as a weird overreaction to everything. Once everyone becomes varying shades of brown in the future, I just picture people looking back at this and going "LOL first they enslave people based on skin color then they literally give money to people with a certain skin color??? Wtf?" the issue is they dont have enough money to give to a lot of people period. 600. 600 recipients will get this. so the exclusions arent haha fuck you all arbitrary rules, as much as lets works with what we got. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:952127204] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Kyle1022 posted... </cite> <quote>It's pretty unfair if a family making $58k gets the extra money while a family making $40k doesn't get it, just because they have different skin colors. I get that minorities have it unfair in many ways, but two wrongs don't make a right. We should fix those areas of inequality instead of creating other areas of inequality. Feels like this period is gonna be looked back on as a weird overreaction to everything. Once everyone becomes varying shades of brown in the future, I just picture people looking back at this and going "LOL first they enslave people based on skin color then they literally give money to people with a certain skin color??? Wtf?"</quote> the issue is they dont have enough money to give to a lot of people period. 600. 600 recipients will get this. so the exclusions arent haha fuck you all arbitrary rules, as much as lets works with what we got. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom36 03/26/21 3:49:11 AM #139:	Kyle1022 posted... Once everyone becomes varying shades of brown in the future We're human beings. There will be racism and prejudice against certain shades. As a race we have to pretty much become like grey aliens to end racism. Even then we'll find something else to judge each other by. --- The Phantom has spoken! <cite>Phantom36 posted [p:952128778] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Kyle1022 posted... </cite> <quote>Once everyone becomes varying shades of brown in the future</quote> We're human beings. There will be racism and prejudice against certain shades. As a race we have to pretty much become like grey aliens to end racism. Even then we'll find something else to judge each other by. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiggy101011 03/26/21 4:07:17 AM #140:	The reason: White households in Oakland on average make about three times as much annually than black households, fair, next. --- XBL: F1RE v2 PSN: F1REx <cite>Jiggy101011 posted [p:952129005] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>The reason: White households in Oakland on average make about three times as much annually than black households, fair, next. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom36 03/26/21 4:17:57 AM #141:	Jiggy101011 posted... The reason: White households in Oakland on average make about three times as much annually than black households, fair, next. And not one single white family can possibly be way below that average so it's entirely fair to exclude them on race alone on basis of skin color, even if the applicants meet the financial criteria by a wide margin. --- The Phantom has spoken! <cite>Phantom36 posted [p:952129121] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Jiggy101011 posted... </cite> <quote>The reason: White households in Oakland on average make about three times as much annually than black households, fair, next.</quote> And not one single white family can possibly be way below that average so it's entirely fair to exclude them on race alone on basis of skin color, even if the applicants meet the financial criteria by a wide margin. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiggy101011 03/26/21 4:52:19 AM #142:	Phantom36 posted... And not one single white family can possibly be way below that average so it's entirely fair to exclude them on race alone on basis of skin color, even if the applicants meet the financial criteria by a wide margin. Do you live in Oakland? --- XBL: F1RE v2 PSN: F1REx <cite>Jiggy101011 posted [p:952129493] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Phantom36 posted... </cite> <quote>And not one single white family can possibly be way below that average so it's entirely fair to exclude them on race alone on basis of skin color, even if the applicants meet the financial criteria by a wide margin.</quote> Do you live in Oakland? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlmightyCheeks 03/26/21 5:08:32 AM #143:	Blatant racism but its against whites so its ok --- Gamertag: ALMIGHTY CHEEKS <cite>AlmightyCheeks posted [p:952129669] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Blatant racism but its against whites so its ok </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShyOx 03/26/21 5:19:03 AM #144:	Zeeak4444 posted... reading other articles it sounds like 600 familys will likely receive it. Half of those spots are reserved for people making less than 30k the other half isnt specified but is eligible for up to 59k. If Im reading correctly it has to be someone with a child and a three person minimum household with a total income of 30/59k. Only eligible to Blacks, Indigenous, and POC. Reading more into it apparently this isnt new, but actually more of an expansion of something started in 2019. Honestly I cant find anything half as nefarious as what people keep trying to make it out to be ITT. @Zeeak4444 It's the opposite of nefarious; they mean well and I agree in principle, but this isn't how UBI is supposed to function. The numbers make me feel better about it and I hope it's going to the right places, but as someone living paycheck to paycheck, this would feel wrong. The good thing is it's specifically families This is the right direction for sure, but the targeting... --- http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6938/vyqp.jpg DIPLOMACY <cite>ShyOx posted [p:952129768] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted... </cite> <quote>reading other articles it sounds like 600 familys will likely receive it. Half of those spots are reserved for people making less than 30k the other half isnt specified but is eligible for up to 59k. If Im reading correctly it has to be someone with a child and a three person minimum household with a total income of 30/59k. Only eligible to Blacks, Indigenous, and POC. Reading more into it apparently this isnt new, but actually more of an expansion of something started in 2019. Honestly I cant find anything half as nefarious as what people keep trying to make it out to be ITT.</quote> @Zeeak4444 It's the opposite of nefarious; they mean well and I agree in principle, but this isn't how UBI is supposed to function. The numbers make me feel better about it and I hope it's going to the right places, but as someone living paycheck to paycheck, this would feel wrong. The good thing is it's specifically families This is the right direction for sure, but the targeting... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 03/26/21 5:23:41 AM #145:	Why no poor white people? --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:952129817] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Why no poor white people? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 03/26/21 5:25:00 AM #146:	AlmightyCheeks posted... Blatant racism but its against whites so its ok im race fluid --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:952129835] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>AlmightyCheeks posted... </cite> <quote>Blatant racism but its against whites so its ok</quote> im race fluid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 03/26/21 5:47:41 AM #147:	Webmaster4531 posted... Why are so many acting like race based charities are a new thing? NAACP was established in 1909 and there's many scholarship programs for people of color. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:952130070] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite><quote>Why are so many acting like race based charities are a new thing? NAACP was established in 1909 and there's many scholarship programs for people of color.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reggae_Mortis 03/26/21 6:30:38 AM #148:	question for the people screaming and stamping their feet: what is stopping the whites you're so concerned about from just going on welfare if you all are so concerned that not receiving a free $500 will be the sole cause of white families shriveling up and disappearing, what are you doing to help, to help your ilk and make everything equal --- i think i got reggae mortis :/ <cite>Reggae_Mortis posted [p:952130606] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>question for the people screaming and stamping their feet: what is stopping the whites you're so concerned about from just going on welfare if you all are so concerned that not receiving a free $500 will be the sole cause of white families shriveling up and disappearing, what are you doing to help, to help your ilk and make everything equal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lemondrop7 03/26/21 7:09:25 AM #149:	Reggae_Mortis posted... question for the people screaming and stamping their feet: what is stopping the whites you're so concerned about from just going on welfare if you all are so concerned that not receiving a free $500 will be the sole cause of white families shriveling up and disappearing, what are you doing to help, to help your ilk and make everything equal question for the people screaming and stamping their feet: what is stopping the blacks you're so concerned about from just going on welfare if you all are so concerned that not receiving a free $500 will be the sole cause of black families shriveling up and disappearing, what are you doing to help, to help your ilk and make everything equal if the races were switched would your paragraph sit right with you? Using racism to combat racism is always wrong --- This signature is used so that my one line posts aren't swept into the wedge of you wall of text wankers <cite>lemondrop7 posted [p:952131112] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Reggae_Mortis posted... </cite> <quote>question for the people screaming and stamping their feet: what is stopping the whites you're so concerned about from just going on welfare if you all are so concerned that not receiving a free $500 will be the sole cause of white families shriveling up and disappearing, what are you doing to help, to help your ilk and make everything equal</quote> question for the people screaming and stamping their feet: what is stopping the blacks you're so concerned about from just going on welfare if you all are so concerned that not receiving a free $500 will be the sole cause of black families shriveling up and disappearing, what are you doing to help, to help your ilk and make everything equal if the races were switched would your paragraph sit right with you? Using racism to combat racism is always wrong </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AtelierRyza3462 03/26/21 7:22:18 AM #150:	Hope it helps --- Now Playing: Atelier Ryza 2 / Outer Worlds https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeArmMVf/ / https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeDNHwmu/ <cite>AtelierRyza3462 posted [p:952131274] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Hope it helps </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 03/26/21 7:33:57 AM #151:	sounds like a lot of people here are fans of UBI, and think everyone should get money. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:952131439] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>sounds like a lot of people here are fans of UBI, and think everyone should get money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 03/26/21 8:57:09 AM #152:	Mitch_Haniger posted... You do understand reparations and social justice is all a liberal talking point created in the late 20th century? To help their causes Racist handouts don't help equality causes .....you think the concepts of reparations and social justice were created in the late 20th century? You are not equipped with enough historical knowledge to participate in this discussion and have been suckered into nonsensical conspiracy theories. They're recompense, not handouts. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:952132861] in City of Oa... [t:79368812]...</cite> <quote>Mitch_Haniger posted... </cite> <quote>You do understand reparations and social justice is all a liberal talking point created in the late 20th century? To help their causes Racist handouts don't help equality causes</quote> .....you think the concepts of reparations and social justice were created in the late 20th century? You are not equipped with enough historical knowledge to participate in this discussion and have been suckered into nonsensical conspiracy theories. They're recompense, not handouts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Current Events > City of Oakland to give families under $59k/yr $500/mo, no white people allowed (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > City of Oakland to give families under $59k/yr $500/mo, no white people allowed