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Lathissamus 03/26/21 9:20:05 AM #153: |
Alucard188 posted...
I'm Ok with this. $500 a month is almost nothing in the grand scheme of things, but if it can help alleviate some of the issues plaguing BIPOC families, then good.Mod logic --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VipaGTS 03/26/21 9:26:43 AM #154: |
Again, privately funded, this is literally the black community helping themselves. What theyve been told to do for so long. You cant bring up black on black crime and demand they fix their own community first, then complain when they do it. It just shows you didnt really care about them fixing their community and were just hand waving them. Maybe now youll realize that we cant be like that to each other and find ways to actually help each other to avoid this sort of thing? Nah youll just keep crying about it and demand they be kept down more.
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BignutzisBack 03/26/21 9:59:47 AM #155: |
Funcoland posted...
At best, it's well-intended stupidity. At worst, its a deliberate attempt to divide low income people and make them bitter towards each other You summed it up perfectly --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlmightyCheeks 03/26/21 12:23:08 PM #156: |
skermac posted...
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2Pacavelli 03/26/21 12:54:36 PM #158: |
This is basically a private charity. A Complete nothing burger. I don't see why people would be upset
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Questionmarktarius 03/26/21 12:55:26 PM #159: |
VipaGTS posted...
Again, privately fundedOf course, the topic title could have been a bit less misleading, and the mayor's endorsement seems a bit questionable. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KStateKing17 03/26/21 1:13:42 PM #160: |
2Pacavelli posted...
This is basically a private charity. A Complete nothing burger. I don't see why people would be upsetThe ones that are raising hell in here are usually the ones that get marked for some racist shit themselves. Some familiar users are showing their ass today. --- The 17th King of the State of K ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 03/26/21 1:25:56 PM #161: |
2Pacavelli posted...
This is basically a private charity. A Complete nothing burger. I don't see why people would be upset If another private charity did the same thing but excluded black people instead of white, there would be fucking riots. --- Oda break tracker 2021- 2 (2) | THE Ohio State: 7-1 | Las Vegas Raiders: 8-8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 03/26/21 1:26:50 PM #162: |
Fam_Fam posted...
sounds like a lot of people here are fans of UBI, and think everyone should get money.Sounds more like people think if you're going to give money to people based on low income, it should be based on low income rather than race. --- Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 03/26/21 1:27:49 PM #163: |
Fam_Fam posted...
sounds like a lot of people here are fans of UBI, and think everyone should get money. And? Most data from places who have trialed some form of ubi has shown nothing but positive results. --- "A dope trailers no place for a kitty, Ricky. Thats why." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendary_zell 03/26/21 1:29:59 PM #164: |
voldothegr8 posted...
If another private charity did the same thing but excluded black people instead of white, there would be fucking riots. You and many other people in this topic are making the fundamental mistake of thinking that just switching out the word white for black is a rational thing in this context. They're not just abstract words or skin colors, they're different groups of people with different histories. Furthermore, private groups "discriminate" in favor of the groups they aim to help all the time through funds, scholarships, loans, etc. There's little unusual about this except the framing triggering some of you. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 03/26/21 1:31:05 PM #165: |
CanuckCowboy posted...
Most data from places who have trialed some form of ubi has shown nothing but positive results.The reason UBI trials seem to simultaneously "succeed" and "fail" is because someone eventually has to work out the funding model. Giving 200 people a UBI as an experiment is a budgetary rounding error. Extrapolating that out to a couple hundred million people isn't quite so simple. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KStateKing17 03/26/21 1:33:07 PM #166: |
voldothegr8 posted...
If another private charity did the same thing but excluded black people instead of white, there would be fucking riots.There are race based scholarships and organizations that assist groups that have faced significant discrimination based on race, sexual orientation and religion. I don't see a problem with that. --- The 17th King of the State of K ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VipaGTS 03/26/21 2:26:07 PM #167: |
voldothegr8 posted...
If another private charity did the same thing but excluded black people instead of white, there would be fucking riots.Ok but, theyre just doing what theyve been told. Fix your own community first! And I know youve echoed those sentiments in the past. So why are you now against it? Isnt this what you want. Them helping themselves so you dont have to? Why are you crying about it now? @voldothegr8 --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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2Pacavelli 03/26/21 2:31:21 PM #168: |
voldothegr8 posted...
If another private charity did the same thing but excluded black people instead of white, there would be fucking riots. There's targeted charities for specific ethnic groups all the time. Like I said complete nothing burger ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 03/26/21 2:32:03 PM #169: |
2Pacavelli posted...
Like I said complete nothing burgerComplete private nothing burger. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 03/26/21 2:37:03 PM #170: |
KStateKing17 posted...
The ones that are raising hell in here are usually the ones that get marked for some racist shit themselves. Some familiar users are showing their ass today. its also funny how those people cant take 5 minutes to look up whats actually happening. the amount of people who think everyone except white people are getting money is fucking laughable. Lazy ass idiots. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lorenzo_2003 03/26/21 2:49:30 PM #171: |
legendary_zell posted...
There's little unusual about this except the framing triggering some of you. True. The framing is racist. Intentionally racist, at that. That tends to trigger people. Just own it. Its not fooling anyone, although I suppose the reality is uncomfortable to accept for its supporters. But its also true that its privately funded. Ive said in the past that private entities should be allowed to do with their money as they please. That is often not a popular opinion. I guess we are making an exception for this case --- ... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VipaGTS 03/26/21 2:51:19 PM #172: |
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
True.No exception. A business open to all in the public (like a bakery) must abide by discrimination rules. This isnt like that at all. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendary_zell 03/26/21 3:08:14 PM #173: |
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
True. Dude, I have thoroughly explained my opinion in this topic and quoted MLK Jr. coming to the exact same conclusion. You haven't rebutted anything, you've just made wild accusations of intentional racism because a UBI pilot project limited its initial members to the most vulnerable members of its community. It's very telling that you can suddenly voice your clear throated disapproval of racism for programs that help black people but have little to nothing to say about the huge gap in wealth, incarceration rates, school funding and achievement, employment etc. that affect black people in Oakland and nationwide. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Perascamin 03/26/21 3:23:33 PM #174: |
Its crazy how the media has convinced white people that they're all spawn of the devil and somehow have to repay the debt of african slavery even though there's a strong probability their direct bloodline was never even involved in the first place.
Black Lives Matter, and Blacks/Hispanics are most certainly punished and assaulted by the police at a disproportionate rate compared to whites. Institutional racism 100% exists, but you will NEVER convince me that I somehow bear the sin of slavery and have to make good on it as a white man when my family immigrated here from Germany in the year 1902 on my father's side and my mom's family immigrated here from Ireland in year 1907. Let's stop pretending that all white people have generational wealth and are better off than their PoC counterparts. There's plenty of white folk coming up or still stuck in the USA Ghettos because the way our economy is designed has ALWAYS been based on oppression of the less wealthy castes. --- I've grown. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SauI_Goodman 03/26/21 3:29:12 PM #175: |
I guess theres no such thing as poor whites in oakland. Thats like the opposite of what biden said. "Poor kids can be just as talented as white kids."
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voldothegr8 03/26/21 3:31:04 PM #176: |
VipaGTS posted...
You must have me confused for someone else, I have never echoed such sentiments. I also never said I'm against it, just answering the dude's question of why people might be upset. Poor is poor, making it a racial matter only further widens the divide. Needlessly. --- Oda break tracker 2021- 2 (2) | THE Ohio State: 7-1 | Las Vegas Raiders: 8-8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 03/26/21 3:31:26 PM #177: |
Imagine being such a racist, the idea of a group of people THAT FINANCIALLY DOWNTRODDEN recieving assistance triggers you
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legendary_zell 03/26/21 3:47:44 PM #178: |
Perascamin posted...
Its crazy how the media has convinced white people that they're all spawn of the devil and somehow have to repay the debt of african slavery even though there's a strong probability their direct bloodline was never even involved in the first place. SauI_Goodman posted... I guess theres no such thing as poor whites in oakland. Thats like the opposite of what biden said. "Poor kids can be just as talented as white kids." These points have already been addressed. And they only seem to come up whenever black people are being helped. I have been posting on this site since 2004 and I have never seen a white person independently post about poor white people struggling and what can be done to help them. I have seem many many many people say that as a reason why black people should not be helped though. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 03/26/21 3:54:11 PM #179: |
legendary_zell posted...
These points have already been addressed. And they only seem to come up whenever black people are being helped. I have been posting on this site since 2004 and I have never seen a white person independently post about poor white people struggling and what can be done to help them. I have seem many many many people say that as a reason why black people should not be helped though. SayItAgainForThePeopleInTheBack y'all complain about poor white people WHENEVER black people try and do for themselves...why is that --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheetaluv 03/26/21 3:56:06 PM #180: |
Yeah, white people can't be poor lol What a fucking joke.
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Lord_Shadow_19 03/26/21 4:03:42 PM #181: |
The usual racists and guilt ridden liberals are defending this while rational people are calling it out for what it is and what it'll do.
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industrializeit 03/26/21 4:03:45 PM #182: |
kage_53 posted...
This is essentially racism. Either give it to everyone who meets the income restriction requirement or dont give it at all.This, such a racist as fuck world we live in. --- I personally like Link as a Rugged Shaman Swashbuckler more than Resourceful Gadget Boy. That's why Zelda II is one of my all time favorites, ...(see quote) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 03/26/21 4:57:02 PM #183: |
industrializeit posted...
This, such a racist as fuck world we live in. go find the funding instead of bitching then. literally the same people here crying about how 600 familys will receive this and not all the other familys are the same people who advocate against any social welfare at all. A bunch of hypocritical, pearl clutching, and ignorant crybabies. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 03/26/21 5:03:03 PM #184: |
Whatd be a more interesting thing is to pay them $3 more an hour at their existing job
Same effect fiscally, but the morale among employees would be internet --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 03/26/21 5:35:06 PM #185: |
Mitch_Haniger posted...
You do understand reparations and social justice is all a liberal talking point created in the late 20th century? To help their causesYou do realize that the civil rights era was in the mid-late 20th century, right? --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IMNOTRAGED 03/26/21 5:36:32 PM #186: |
If you think white people are gonna be mad about this, imagine how black people feel about our ancestors having everything stolen from them for hundreds of years!
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ZMythos 03/26/21 5:37:51 PM #187: |
IMNOTRAGED posted...
If you think white people are gonna be mad about this, imagine how black people feel about our ancestors having everything stolen from them for hundreds of years!Maybe we should ignore them, and in 50 years tell them to get over it too --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 03/26/21 5:41:27 PM #188: |
Black people need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and come together to fix the problems in their communities....no, not like that
Just say you hate us and go --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KINDERFELD 03/26/21 5:46:18 PM #189: |
A little too late for that.
So much interest needs to be added on to that $500 a month, for people of color to get what was promised to them. --- BLACK LIVES MATTER ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pure_temper 03/26/21 5:52:33 PM #190: |
It's private money.
That makes it okay in my book, no other questions need to be asked. Not my business what private donors do with their capital. --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Macken78 03/26/21 6:16:16 PM #191: |
Private fund. Up to them what they do with their money
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Macken78 03/26/21 6:18:59 PM #192: |
Cheetaluv posted...
Yeah, white people can't be poor lol What a fucking joke. Private organizations can't give their own money to who they want apparently. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 03/26/21 6:53:38 PM #193: |
ThePrinceFish posted...
Sounds more like people think if you're going to give money to people based on low income, it should be based on low income rather than race. it sounds like that are giving money based on both income and race, not one or the other ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 03/26/21 6:54:02 PM #194: |
Macken78 posted...
Private organizations can't give their own money to who they want apparently. not if it hurts white peoples' feelings, they can't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nothanks1 03/26/21 6:56:00 PM #195: |
not surprised the usual radicals are defending this
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HHH is the game 03/27/21 5:54:52 AM #196: |
Jiggy101011 posted...
The reason: White households in Oakland on average make about three times as much annually than black households, er....how does that AT ALL affect or matter to the white households that are NOT making that amount? Like a poor white person is supposed to feel better because some other people are making more money just because they are the same race?? --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 03/27/21 6:03:55 AM #197: |
Also I think a very big difference is that this isn't a fund for black people. Its a fund for everybody that isn't white.
It's like an example I saw on reddit. If there was a fund to help Jewish kids, nobody would really think much of it. If there was a fund to help everybody EXCEPT for Jewish kids, that sounds a lot more sinister. --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TerraSeeker 03/27/21 6:13:32 AM #198: |
So systemic racism...
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shnangyboos 03/27/21 6:19:04 AM #199: |
legendary_zell posted...
I have been posting on this site since 2004 and I have never seen a white person independently post about poor white people struggling and what can be done to help them. I had a good chuckle at this. I think most people know how such a sentiment would be received. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taharqa_ 03/27/21 6:49:51 AM #200: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
Black people need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and come together to fix the problems in their communities....no, not like that Pretty much It's not a problem when other groups pool money and resources together but when black people do it there's an issue. --- "We tried to tell y'all." - African-American proverb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 03/27/21 6:56:20 AM #201: |
The people who have a problem with this are just racists. Them: Why isn't the NAACP the NAAAP?
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AzNDarkSamurai 03/28/21 11:55:48 AM #202: |
I dont have an issue with it as long as they dont go and waste it
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Lathissamus 03/28/21 2:05:21 PM #203: |
AzNDarkSamurai posted...
I dont have an issue with it as long as they dont go and waste itWelcome to welfare. Most of this money will go straight back to big businesses. Poor people tend to be afflicted with spending money. That's true for all races in that tax bracket. It's a vicious cycle. You can't give people a set monthly income and say you fixed a fundamental problem. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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