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joe40001
03/13/21 7:03:21 AM
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I also want to be connected with my authentic self which for some dumb reason I only easily access when drunk.

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The_Creep_2020
03/13/21 7:03:59 AM
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Nah, you just *think* you can connect with your authentic self when drunk.

Because youre drunk.

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MayaFey
03/13/21 7:04:18 AM
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have you tried unplugging and replugging your ethernet cable?
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HODL_Austin_Era
03/13/21 7:10:34 AM
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Let me speak to your mother young man!!!

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joe40001
03/13/21 4:18:36 PM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...
Nah, you just *think* you can connect with your authentic self when drunk.

Because youre drunk.

No it's real, the real emotional me can't be easily accessed by sober me.

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MabusIncarnate
03/13/21 4:24:59 PM
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You're just hiding from yourself when you are sober, people say you do and say dumb things when you are drunk, but really those are the things you are thinking and feeling that you only have the comfort of saying when inebriated. They call it "liquid courage" for a reason. And as mentioned, therapy can help because those people have a way of drawing those thoughts and feelings out of you and it helps.

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nfearurspecimn
03/13/21 4:26:37 PM
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being drunk isn't the "real you" imo

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joe40001
03/13/21 4:30:47 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
being drunk isn't the "real you" imo

If I'm sober I'm certain "literally nothing I care about matters" if I'm drunk I'm able to go "fuck that, I care and that's important."

MabusIncarnate posted...
You're just hiding from yourself when you are sober, people say you do and say dumb things when you are drunk, but really those are the things you are thinking and feeling that you only have the comfort of saying when inebriated. They call it "liquid courage" for a reason. And as mentioned, therapy can help because those people have a way of drawing those thoughts and feelings out of you and it helps.

I spend 1100 dollars a month on therapy.

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MabusIncarnate
03/13/21 4:31:53 PM
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joe40001 posted...

I spend 1100 dollars a month on therapy.

Maybe you need a new therapist then if the one you are seeing isn't helping.

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joe40001
03/13/21 4:49:53 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
I spend 1100 dollars a month on therapy.

Maybe you need a new therapist then if the one you are seeing isn't helping.

No they are doing about as good as they can, my issues are just really chronic/severe.

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cuttin_in_farm
03/13/21 5:04:12 PM
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People claiming drunk you isnt the real you clearly havent been drunk.

It definitely does highlight your actual thoughts. The issue is if you cant decipher them without drinking.

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joe40001
03/13/21 5:50:17 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
People claiming drunk you isnt the real you clearly havent been drunk.

It definitely does highlight your actual thoughts. The issue is if you cant decipher them without drinking.

Right, I need a healthy way into my true self.

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AloneIBreak
03/13/21 6:53:54 PM
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Whats so authentic about your drunk self relative to the sober? What positive values are you only living out while drunk?

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joe40001
03/13/21 6:56:07 PM
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AloneIBreak posted...
Whats so authentic about your drunk self relative to the sober? What positive values are you only living out while drunk?

Just accepting and being in touch with my emotional self, particularly my wants desires and passions. When I'm sober I basically think "well all that is silliness, fall in line with society."

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joe40001
03/13/21 6:56:52 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
you're being ripped off

It's once a week for 75 minutes, and since it's idstp it's not in network, so all things considered it's not too unreasonable.

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AloneIBreak
03/13/21 6:59:01 PM
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joe40001 posted...
Just accepting and being in touch with my emotional self, particularly my wants desires and passions. When I'm sober I basically think "well all that is silliness, fall in line with society."
The organization of society is not conductive to most of the human population pursuing their passions and desires. Conformity seems like a strange response.

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ultimate reaver
03/13/21 6:59:52 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
being drunk isn't the "real you" imo

in some sense i agree because your inhibitions are just as much a part of your personality as anything else, but on the other hand often drunk people will tell you how they really feel about themselves or you and they're just being honest because they cant care about it at the time. people that get belligerent and violent when drunk are generally shitty people even if they're innocent of that during day to day life

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MedeaLysistrata
03/13/21 7:01:13 PM
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That's about right for weekly therapy costs for 75 minutes...

The uninhibition you feel can probably be expressed by you when you are sober though

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joe40001
03/13/21 7:09:15 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
That's about right for weekly therapy costs for 75 minutes...

The uninhibition you feel can probably be expressed by you when you are sober though

I wish, but I feel completely unsafe doing it, even in private even just with myself.

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Shelhamer92
03/13/21 7:47:36 PM
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Next time you drink, journal your feelings. Then, when you sober up, read them and believe them.

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joe40001
03/13/21 8:28:47 PM
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Shelhamer92 posted...
Next time you drink, journal your feelings. Then, when you sober up, read them and believe them.

I've done all of this except the last part, sober me dismisses all of my true feelings because he doesn't feel safe feeling anything.

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nfearurspecimn
03/13/21 8:54:18 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
but on the other hand often drunk people will tell you how they really feel about themselves or you and they're just being honest because they cant care about it at the time.
while this is true, I think a lot of yourself is thrown away when you get drunk. it's another side to you, is all. it's not the ultimate real you though.

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cuttin_in_farm
03/14/21 3:38:12 AM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
I think a lot of yourself is thrown away when you get drunk.

What makes you think this?

I feel people hide their true selves when sober more than anything.

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