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Antifar 03/12/21 11:29:08 PM #1:	https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/albertsamaha/qanon-parents-millennial-children You should have seen my moms Twitter page before it got suspended. Maybe you did. Maybe you were one of the 85 accounts that followed her. If so, I imagine you were probably very confused. Of course, the QAnon hashtags and links to far-right websites wouldnt have seemed out of place on the site. GEORGE FLOYD ALIVE? she once tweeted with a link to a YouTube video making that false claim. Her account got flagged once Twitter started policing disinformation; it was swept up as one of thousands deactivated over the last few months. Theyre trying to silence Patriots! she said to me. What mightve seemed strange, though, was that amid all the hardcore QAnon content, she would occasionally drop in links to BuzzFeed News stories Id written about police misconduct and wrongful convictions: I hope @POTUS and @DOJ would read the investigative criminal justice stories of @AlbertSamaha & consider the sexual misconduct he has written about, as part of the New Law on Police Reform. #TRUMP2020 #WWG1WGA #TransitiontoGreatness The only stories my mom found credible in what she called the mainstream media were the ones reported by her son and even then, only when the subject matter didnt attack her devotion to the Catholic faith and to Donald Trump. Over the years, she urged me not to write about politics and expressed her concerns that I was falling further into the deep state when I reported on kids repeating Trumps racist rhetoric or the validity of the election results. I pray you will not be a journalist for the deep state, shed text me. Its either you are protecting the deep state or Trump. I love you. If you are pressured by BFN to be part of the evil deep state, please resign. I wasnt sure how long I could hold on to whatever thread of trust still bound us together. An early adopter of the QAnon mass delusion, on board since 2018, she held firm to the claim that a Satan-worshipping cabal of child sex traffickers controlled the world and the only person standing in their way was Trump. She saw him not merely as a politician but a savior, and she expressed her devotion in stark terms. The prophets have said Trump is anointed, she texted me once. God is using him to finally end the evil doings of the cabal which has hurt humanity all these centuries We are in a war between good & evil. By 2020, Id pretty much given up on swaying my mom away from her preferred presidential candidate. Wed spent many hours arguing over basic facts I considered indisputable. Any information I cited to prove Trumps cruelty, she cut down with a corresponding counterattack. My links to credible news sources disintegrated against a wall of outlets like One America News Network, Breitbart, and Before Its News. Any cracks I could find in her positions were instantly undermined by the inconvenient fact that I was, in her words, a member of the liberal media, a brainwashed acolyte of the sprawling conspiracy trying to take down her heroic leader. The irony gnawed at me: My entire vocation as an investigative reporter was predicated on being able to reveal truths, and yet I could not even rustle up the evidence to convince my own mother that our 45th president was not, in fact, the hero she believed him to be. Or, for that matter, that John F. Kennedy Jr. was dead. Or that Tom Hanks had not been executed for drinking the blood of children. ... She has always been a stubborn soul, committed to her fundamental positions and eager to battle any infidel foolish enough to engage. I felt overmatched, helpless. Eventually, I accepted the impasse. It didnt seem healthy that every conversation we had would devolve into a circuitous debate about which one of us was on the side of the bad guys. So I tried to pick my battles. ... Her preferred candidate in 2012 was the socially conservative Rick Santorum, which I couldve guessed. But I was less sure where shed land four years later as the party she pledged allegiance to spiraled toward a demagogue. Her decision had new consequences: She had just become a US citizen and could finally cast a ballot. When she revealed her choice, I was relieved that she had backed Ted Cruz and deemed Donald Trump vulgar. When Trump won the nomination, my mom said she was only voting for him because he would appoint Supreme Court judges who might overturn Roe v. Wade. But when my mom picks a side, she digs in and holds the line. Within a year, bolstered by an expanding far-right media ecosystem supplying information about the secular threat, she elevated Trump from a noxious necessity to a decent man whod made mistakes in the past but found his way, a modern-day Saul. She picked up print copies of the Epoch Times, subscribed to the Judicial Watch newsletter, and stumbled onto YouTube videos claiming to reveal mysteries about the deep state Trump was combatting. Trump is not a perfect man, my mom would text me. God chose him to serve His purpose. It took a strong character to overcome the slings & arrows of the deep state/cabal. Continued... --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:951656461] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/albertsamaha/qanon-parents-millennial-children <quote>You should have seen my moms Twitter page before it got suspended. Maybe you did. Maybe you were one of the 85 accounts that followed her. If so, I imagine you were probably very confused. Of course, the QAnon hashtags and links to far-right websites wouldnt have seemed out of place on the site. GEORGE FLOYD ALIVE? she once tweeted with a link to a YouTube video making that false claim. Her account got flagged once Twitter started policing disinformation; it was swept up as one of thousands deactivated over the last few months. Theyre trying to silence Patriots! she said to me. What mightve seemed strange, though, was that amid all the hardcore QAnon content, she would occasionally drop in links to BuzzFeed News stories Id written about police misconduct and wrongful convictions: I hope @POTUS and @DOJ would read the investigative criminal justice stories of @AlbertSamaha & consider the sexual misconduct he has written about, as part of the New Law on Police Reform. #TRUMP2020 #WWG1WGA #TransitiontoGreatness The only stories my mom found credible in what she called the mainstream media were the ones reported by her son and even then, only when the subject matter didnt attack her devotion to the Catholic faith and to Donald Trump. Over the years, she urged me not to write about politics and expressed her concerns that I was falling further into the deep state when I reported on kids repeating Trumps racist rhetoric or the validity of the election results. I pray you will not be a journalist for the deep state, shed text me. Its either you are protecting the deep state or Trump. I love you. If you are pressured by BFN to be part of the evil deep state, please resign. I wasnt sure how long I could hold on to whatever thread of trust still bound us together. An early adopter of the QAnon mass delusion, on board since 2018, she held firm to the claim that a Satan-worshipping cabal of child sex traffickers controlled the world and the only person standing in their way was Trump. She saw him not merely as a politician but a savior, and she expressed her devotion in stark terms. The prophets have said Trump is anointed, she texted me once. God is using him to finally end the evil doings of the cabal which has hurt humanity all these centuries We are in a war between good & evil. By 2020, Id pretty much given up on swaying my mom away from her preferred presidential candidate. Wed spent many hours arguing over basic facts I considered indisputable. Any information I cited to prove Trumps cruelty, she cut down with a corresponding counterattack. My links to credible news sources disintegrated against a wall of outlets like One America News Network, Breitbart, and Before Its News. Any cracks I could find in her positions were instantly undermined by the inconvenient fact that I was, in her words, a member of the liberal media, a brainwashed acolyte of the sprawling conspiracy trying to take down her heroic leader. The irony gnawed at me: My entire vocation as an investigative reporter was predicated on being able to reveal truths, and yet I could not even rustle up the evidence to convince my own mother that our 45th president was not, in fact, the hero she believed him to be. Or, for that matter, that John F. Kennedy Jr. was dead. Or that Tom Hanks had not been executed for drinking the blood of children. ... She has always been a stubborn soul, committed to her fundamental positions and eager to battle any infidel foolish enough to engage. I felt overmatched, helpless. Eventually, I accepted the impasse. It didnt seem healthy that every conversation we had would devolve into a circuitous debate about which one of us was on the side of the bad guys. So I tried to pick my battles. ... Her preferred candidate in 2012 was the socially conservative Rick Santorum, which I couldve guessed. But I was less sure where shed land four years later as the party she pledged allegiance to spiraled toward a demagogue. Her decision had new consequences: She had just become a US citizen and could finally cast a ballot. When she revealed her choice, I was relieved that she had backed Ted Cruz and deemed Donald Trump vulgar. When Trump won the nomination, my mom said she was only voting for him because he would appoint Supreme Court judges who might overturn Roe v. Wade. But when my mom picks a side, she digs in and holds the line. Within a year, bolstered by an expanding far-right media ecosystem supplying information about the secular threat, she elevated Trump from a noxious necessity to a decent man whod made mistakes in the past but found his way, a modern-day Saul. She picked up print copies of the Epoch Times, subscribed to the Judicial Watch newsletter, and stumbled onto YouTube videos claiming to reveal mysteries about the deep state Trump was combatting.</quote> <quote>Trump is not a perfect man, my mom would text me. God chose him to serve His purpose. It took a strong character to overcome the slings & arrows of the deep state/cabal.</quote> Continued... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/12/21 11:33:33 PM #2:	Midway through 2018, my mom started telling me about these cryptic messages posted online by somebody claiming to be a high-level government officer, identified only by the pen name Q. I saw no reason for alarm. She already believed in all sorts of baseless conspiracy theories. What harm could one more do? Q spilled secrets that affirmed suspicions shed long carried and introduced new pieces to the puzzle: Q alleged there did indeed exist a powerful cabal of satanists operating backstage, pulling levers through the deep state, but their motive was not merely a desire for secular hegemony but also to maintain a child sex-trafficking network. Q was also the bearer of more hopeful news: Trump had a plan to take down everybody involved, and mass arrests were imminent. The president had allegedly communicated to Qs followers through codes embedded in the letter arrangements in his tweets or the tail number on the helicopter he boarded. On forums across the internet, my mom and her fellow Patriots followed the trail left by Qs sporadic messages, which revealed the broad strokes of Trumps plans but kept certain details confidential, alluding to future events that would mark the beginning of the storm the moment the deep state was publicly exposed, its players arrested and charged. My mom couldnt help but worry. She sent me screenshots of tweets posted by random Patriots declaring that sedition charges against all deep state collaborators were already being drawn up. Was her son on that list? She warned me to be careful not to publish any more treasonous lies before it was too late. I believe the Holy Spirit led me to the QAnons to discover the truth which is being suppressed, she texted me. Otherwise, how would I be able to know the truth if the lamestream media suppresses the truth? Through the years, Id battled against conspiracy theories my mom threw at me that were far more formidable than QAnon. Id been stumped when she asked me to prove that Beyonc wasnt an Illuminati member, dumbfounded when research studies I sent her werent enough to reach an agreement on vaccine efficacy, and too worn down to say anything more than thats not true when confronted with false allegations of murders committed by prominent politicians. The theories spun from Qs messages seemed much easier to disprove. Oprah Winfrey couldnt have been detained during a wave of deep state arrests because we could still see her conducting live interviews on television. Trumps 4th of July speech at Mount Rushmore came to an end without John F. Kennedy Jr. revealing he was alive and stepping in as the presidents new running mate. The widespread blackouts that her Patriot friends source from the Pentagon had warned about failed to materialize. And I could testify firsthand that the CIA had no control over my newsrooms editorial decisions. But what I had dismissed as damaging inconsistencies turned out to be the core strength of the belief system: It was alive, flexible, sprouting more questions than answers, more clues to study, an investigation playing out in real time, with the fate of the world at stake. My mom exchanged relevant links with other Patriots shed met through social media or knew from old jobs, a growing community of trusted voices for her. In our debates, she wielded YouTube videos claiming that many celebrities had been cloned, message board posts positing that JFK Jr. had changed his mind about when to return, her own conclusions that the mysterious plan for 10 days of darkness had been postponed, and a catalog of decontextualized historical evidence attesting to government schemes to influence the media. With no overlap between our filters of reality, I was at a loss for any facts that would actually stick. ... The year my mom began falling down QAnon rabbit holes, I turned the age she was when she first arrived in the States. By then, I was no longer sure that America was worth the cost of her migration. When the real estate market collapsed under the weight of Wall Street speculation, she had to sell our house at a steep loss to avoid foreclosure and her budding career as a realtor evaporated. Her nearminimum wage jobs werent enough to cover her bills, so her credit card debts rose. She delayed retirement plans because she saw no path to breaking even anytime soon, though she was hopeful that a turnaround was on the horizon. Through the setbacks and detours, she drifted into the arms of the people and beliefs I held most responsible for her troubles. With a fervor I knew was futile, Id tell my mom she was missing the real conspiracy: The powerful people shaping policy to benefit their own interests, to maintain wealth and white predominance, through tax cuts and voter suppression, were commandeering her support solely by catering to her stance on the one issue she cared most about. In the Philippines, Marcoss conspiracy began to unravel once Cardinal Jaime Sin, the archbishop of Manila, turned against him, declaring that the dictator didnt care about the millions of people living without daily meals or running water. I urged my mom to listen to the priests and archbishops publicly condemning Trump rather than the ones who judged him a friend to Catholic values. Didnt she hear Pope Francis say that a person who builds walls is not a Christian and that an immigration policy that endangers families could not be called pro-life? Honestly, Im sorry, even if he is the pope, Im iffy about him, she texted me. I believe he is part of the deep church. The church & Vatican has been infiltrated too! The voice my mom trusted most now was Trumps. Our disagreements were no longer ideological to her but part of a celestial conflict. I love you but you have to be on the side of good, she texted me. Im sad cuz u have become part of the deep state. May God have mercy on you...I pray you will see the truth of the evil agenda and be on the side of Trump. She likened her fellow Patriots to the early Christians who spread the word of Jesus at the risk of persecution. She often sent me a meme with a caption about ordinary people who spent countless hours researching, debating, meditating and praying for the truth to be revealed to them. Although they were mocked, dismissed and cast off, they knew their souls had agreed long ago to do this work. ... --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:951656564] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote><quote>Midway through 2018, my mom started telling me about these cryptic messages posted online by somebody claiming to be a high-level government officer, identified only by the pen name Q. I saw no reason for alarm. She already believed in all sorts of baseless conspiracy theories. What harm could one more do? Q spilled secrets that affirmed suspicions shed long carried and introduced new pieces to the puzzle: Q alleged there did indeed exist a powerful cabal of satanists operating backstage, pulling levers through the deep state, but their motive was not merely a desire for secular hegemony but also to maintain a child sex-trafficking network. Q was also the bearer of more hopeful news: Trump had a plan to take down everybody involved, and mass arrests were imminent. The president had allegedly communicated to Qs followers through codes embedded in the letter arrangements in his tweets or the tail number on the helicopter he boarded. On forums across the internet, my mom and her fellow Patriots followed the trail left by Qs sporadic messages, which revealed the broad strokes of Trumps plans but kept certain details confidential, alluding to future events that would mark the beginning of the storm the moment the deep state was publicly exposed, its players arrested and charged. My mom couldnt help but worry. She sent me screenshots of tweets posted by random Patriots declaring that sedition charges against all deep state collaborators were already being drawn up. Was her son on that list? She warned me to be careful not to publish any more treasonous lies before it was too late. I believe the Holy Spirit led me to the QAnons to discover the truth which is being suppressed, she texted me. Otherwise, how would I be able to know the truth if the lamestream media suppresses the truth? Through the years, Id battled against conspiracy theories my mom threw at me that were far more formidable than QAnon. Id been stumped when she asked me to prove that Beyonc wasnt an Illuminati member, dumbfounded when research studies I sent her werent enough to reach an agreement on vaccine efficacy, and too worn down to say anything more than thats not true when confronted with false allegations of murders committed by prominent politicians. The theories spun from Qs messages seemed much easier to disprove. Oprah Winfrey couldnt have been detained during a wave of deep state arrests because we could still see her conducting live interviews on television. Trumps 4th of July speech at Mount Rushmore came to an end without John F. Kennedy Jr. revealing he was alive and stepping in as the presidents new running mate. The widespread blackouts that her Patriot friends source from the Pentagon had warned about failed to materialize. And I could testify firsthand that the CIA had no control over my newsrooms editorial decisions. But what I had dismissed as damaging inconsistencies turned out to be the core strength of the belief system: It was alive, flexible, sprouting more questions than answers, more clues to study, an investigation playing out in real time, with the fate of the world at stake. My mom exchanged relevant links with other Patriots shed met through social media or knew from old jobs, a growing community of trusted voices for her. In our debates, she wielded YouTube videos claiming that many celebrities had been cloned, message board posts positing that JFK Jr. had changed his mind about when to return, her own conclusions that the mysterious plan for 10 days of darkness had been postponed, and a catalog of decontextualized historical evidence attesting to government schemes to influence the media. With no overlap between our filters of reality, I was at a loss for any facts that would actually stick. ... The year my mom began falling down QAnon rabbit holes, I turned the age she was when she first arrived in the States. By then, I was no longer sure that America was worth the cost of her migration. When the real estate market collapsed under the weight of Wall Street speculation, she had to sell our house at a steep loss to avoid foreclosure and her budding career as a realtor evaporated. Her nearminimum wage jobs werent enough to cover her bills, so her credit card debts rose. She delayed retirement plans because she saw no path to breaking even anytime soon, though she was hopeful that a turnaround was on the horizon. Through the setbacks and detours, she drifted into the arms of the people and beliefs I held most responsible for her troubles. With a fervor I knew was futile, Id tell my mom she was missing the real conspiracy: The powerful people shaping policy to benefit their own interests, to maintain wealth and white predominance, through tax cuts and voter suppression, were commandeering her support solely by catering to her stance on the one issue she cared most about. In the Philippines, Marcoss conspiracy began to unravel once Cardinal Jaime Sin, the archbishop of Manila, turned against him, declaring that the dictator didnt care about the millions of people living without daily meals or running water. I urged my mom to listen to the priests and archbishops publicly condemning Trump rather than the ones who judged him a friend to Catholic values. Didnt she hear Pope Francis say that a person who builds walls is not a Christian and that an immigration policy that endangers families could not be called pro-life? Honestly, Im sorry, even if he is the pope, Im iffy about him, she texted me. I believe he is part of the deep church. The church & Vatican has been infiltrated too! The voice my mom trusted most now was Trumps. Our disagreements were no longer ideological to her but part of a celestial conflict. I love you but you have to be on the side of good, she texted me. Im sad cuz u have become part of the deep state. May God have mercy on you...I pray you will see the truth of the evil agenda and be on the side of Trump. She likened her fellow Patriots to the early Christians who spread the word of Jesus at the risk of persecution. She often sent me a meme with a caption about ordinary people who spent countless hours researching, debating, meditating and praying for the truth to be revealed to them. Although they were mocked, dismissed and cast off, they knew their souls had agreed long ago to do this work. ...</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 03/12/21 11:36:16 PM #3:	tl;dr --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:951656638] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>tl;dr </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChocoboMogALT 03/12/21 11:39:53 PM #4:	I saw in another thread some people being accused of being "not real Conservatives" or just troling, but some people really are fully susceptible to this nonsense and nothing will bring them out of their delusion. Need to cut off disinformation before it get ahold, not after. --- "We live in a country Hasire.." ~ yosouf06 REVOLVER STAKE! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/ChocoboMog123/AltEisenRChocoboMog.png <cite>ChocoboMogALT posted [p:951656710] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>I saw in another thread some people being accused of being "not real Conservatives" or just troling, but some people really are fully susceptible to this nonsense and nothing will bring them out of their delusion. Need to cut off disinformation before it get ahold, not after. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zero_Destroyer 03/12/21 11:42:31 PM #6:	still can't believe destitute rural meth addicts and college educated burnouts made a reality star into their second coming of christ, literally good god we're fucked lol --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:951656775] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>still can't believe destitute rural meth addicts and college educated burnouts made a reality star into their second coming of christ, literally good god we're fucked lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/12/21 11:47:02 PM #7:	Zero_Destroyer posted... still can't believe destitute rural meth addicts and college educated burnouts made a reality star into their second coming of christ, literally good god we're fucked lol I think it's a mistake to assume that burnouts and addicts are at the heart of this; the most common occupation at the capitol riot was "small business owner" --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:951656863] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Zero_Destroyer posted... </cite> <quote>still can't believe destitute rural meth addicts and college educated burnouts made a reality star into their second coming of christ, literally good god we're fucked lol</quote>I think it's a mistake to assume that burnouts and addicts are at the heart of this; the most common occupation at the capitol riot was "small business owner" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rathinor 03/12/21 11:47:42 PM #8:	ScazarMeltex posted... You have to be a pretty special brand of stupid to fall into a conspiracy like Q. Honestly you have to be a special brand of stupid to fall for the MAGA movement, but here we are <cite>Rathinor posted [p:951656881] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>You have to be a pretty special brand of stupid to fall into a conspiracy like Q.</quote>Honestly you have to be a special brand of stupid to fall for the MAGA movement, but here we are </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eyeratosthenes 03/12/21 11:48:57 PM #9:	My mom listens to dried up housewives on something called bitchute, all day every day. Talking about how trump will take the country back, they are the silent majority, they will not bend to the new world order. Some fatass british elder with a beer stained beard was talking about how Trump is a perfect human specimen, and no one else on earth could be president for 4 years and come out looking BETTER. No one but Trump Like, verbatim. Fucking eerie. No horror movie comes close. She pulled my brother aside the other day and was like "hey...do you think president trump is going to be okay?" (he laughed at her face which is good) --- Aiways / Hairistotle <cite>Eyeratosthenes posted [p:951656906] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>My mom listens to dried up housewives on something called bitchute, all day every day. Talking about how trump will take the country back, they are the silent majority, they will not bend to the new world order. Some fatass british elder with a beer stained beard was talking about how Trump is a perfect human specimen, and no one else on earth could be president for 4 years and come out looking BETTER. No one but Trump Like, verbatim. Fucking eerie. No horror movie comes close. She pulled my brother aside the other day and was like "hey...do you think president trump is going to be okay?" (he laughed at her face which is good) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 03/12/21 11:50:55 PM #10:	It's tragic that people think Trump isn't evil --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:951656958] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>It's tragic that people think Trump isn't evil </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CouldBeAnAlt 03/12/21 11:52:10 PM #11:	I'll never understand why these people threw their lives away for trump --- Fithos lusec wecos vinosec <cite>CouldBeAnAlt posted [p:951656983] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>I'll never understand why these people threw their lives away for trump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdmiralStiff 03/12/21 11:52:11 PM #12:	Don't give up, my fellow gamefaqer, shit gets interesting at chapter 4 Keep reading --- You may block me, report me even but you can't unsmell my ass <cite>AdmiralStiff posted [p:951656985] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Don't give up, my fellow gamefaqer, shit gets interesting at chapter 4 Keep reading </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rapid99 03/12/21 11:54:31 PM #14:	Fuck everyone involved in the chain of disinformation necessary to turn these people into cultists. --- Formerly Smidge \| The last ASCII artist. https://gfascii.art/ <cite>Rapid99 posted [p:951657032] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Fuck everyone involved in the chain of disinformation necessary to turn these people into cultists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/12/21 11:57:01 PM #15:	Antifar posted... I think it's a mistake to assume that burnouts and addicts are at the heart of this; the most common occupation at the capitol riot was "small business owner" this. disinformation is learned the same as information. a little at a time, each bit building on the last. almost no one jumps straight off the cliff of a cult. there were a dozen, a hundred, small steps they took to get onto that ledge, and every single one seemed reasonable at the time. it's easy from the outside to only look at the last step and ask, "how the fuck did you end up here?". but when you're being walked down the path, they're intentionally not giving you any reason to stop and ask that yourself. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You... are classified... as a hostile... entity. <cite>Medussa posted [p:951657077] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>I think it's a mistake to assume that burnouts and addicts are at the heart of this; the most common occupation at the capitol riot was "small business owner"</quote> this. disinformation is learned the same as information. a little at a time, each bit building on the last. almost no one jumps straight off the cliff of a cult. there were a dozen, a hundred, small steps they took to get onto that ledge, and every single one seemed reasonable at the time. it's easy from the outside to only look at the last step and ask, "how the fuck did you end up here?". but when you're being walked down the path, they're intentionally not giving you any reason to stop and ask that yourself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VanananaHeyHey 03/12/21 11:57:24 PM #16:	Today while driving, I saw a sign (massive, easily 8'x6') in someone's yard that said "[We are] Trumpublicans, NOT Republicans!" in favor of Trump. The other side of it had a silhouette of Trump over an American flag. Something had been spraypainted over that side, but I couldn't make out what it was. --- Please, call me Vanai. CE's official linguist, War-tor-le and Charizard <cite>VanananaHeyHey posted [p:951657088] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Today while driving, I saw a sign (massive, easily 8'x6') in someone's yard that said "[We are] Trumpublicans, NOT Republicans!" in favor of Trump. The other side of it had a silhouette of Trump over an American flag. Something had been spraypainted over that side, but I couldn't make out what it was. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mft1 03/13/21 12:17:52 AM #17:	honestly, if you're at the point where you're writing a hit piece about your mom on buzzfeed there's likely more to the story <cite>mft1 posted [p:951657522] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>honestly, if you're at the point where you're writing a hit piece about your mom on buzzfeed there's likely more to the story </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 03/13/21 12:32:13 AM #19:	the qult is just another few steps on a path some of these people have been walking since the 70s. my parents were absolutely convinced that Bill Clinton was going to declare himself king and never give up power. the concept isn't absurd in their minds, because they've been taught "The Truth" their whole lives instead of the truth. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You... are classified... as a hostile... entity. <cite>Medussa posted [p:951657820] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>the qult is just another few steps on a path some of these people have been walking since the 70s. my parents were absolutely convinced that Bill Clinton was going to declare himself king and never give up power. the concept isn't absurd in their minds, because they've been taught "The Truth" their whole lives instead of the truth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CouldBeAnAlt 03/13/21 12:33:55 AM #20:	ScazarMeltex posted... The sheer concept is absurd though. So the dems and the cabal are all powerful and have been controlling shit for centuries, but some guy on a reddit board can openly talk about them and how there is a plan to take them down without getting killed by them? If Trump was their chief opposition wouldn't they just kill him, seeing as how they control everything? You can't be both all powerful and incapable of getting rid of your opponents. Honestly just sounds like an evolution of the "jews control everything" racist conspiracies but grown to encompass the entire left --- Fithos lusec wecos vinosec <cite>CouldBeAnAlt posted [p:951657862] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>The sheer concept is absurd though. So the dems and the cabal are all powerful and have been controlling shit for centuries, but some guy on a reddit board can openly talk about them and how there is a plan to take them down without getting killed by them? If Trump was their chief opposition wouldn't they just kill him, seeing as how they control everything? You can't be both all powerful and incapable of getting rid of your opponents.</quote>Honestly just sounds like an evolution of the "jews control everything" racist conspiracies but grown to encompass the entire left </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AldousIsDead 03/13/21 12:35:38 AM #21:	ScazarMeltex posted... The sheer concept is absurd though. So the dems and the cabal are all powerful and have been controlling shit for centuries, but some guy on a reddit board can openly talk about them and how there is a plan to take them down without getting killed by them? If Trump was their chief opposition wouldn't they just kill him, seeing as how they control everything? You can't be both all powerful and incapable of getting rid of your opponents. The enemy is both weak and strong. [] the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Umberto Eco, Ur-Facism --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. <cite>AldousIsDead posted [p:951657900] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>The sheer concept is absurd though. So the dems and the cabal are all powerful and have been controlling shit for centuries, but some guy on a reddit board can openly talk about them and how there is a plan to take them down without getting killed by them? If Trump was their chief opposition wouldn't they just kill him, seeing as how they control everything? You can't be both all powerful and incapable of getting rid of your opponents.</quote> <quote>The enemy is both weak and strong. [] the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.</quote>Umberto Eco, Ur-Facism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AldousIsDead 03/13/21 12:37:03 AM #22:	CouldBeAnAlt posted... Honestly just sounds like an evolution of the "jews control everything" racist conspiracies but grown to encompass the entire left You got it. This is blood libel dressed up yet again. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. <cite>AldousIsDead posted [p:951657930] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>CouldBeAnAlt posted... </cite> <quote>Honestly just sounds like an evolution of the "jews control everything" racist conspiracies but grown to encompass the entire left</quote>You got it. This is blood libel dressed up yet again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rathinor 03/13/21 12:39:28 AM #23:	CouldBeAnAlt posted... Honestly just sounds like an evolution of the "jews control everything" racist conspiracies but grown to encompass the entire left Trumpers aren't known for their intelligence or originality <cite>Rathinor posted [p:951657975] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>CouldBeAnAlt posted... </cite> <quote>Honestly just sounds like an evolution of the "jews control everything" racist conspiracies but grown to encompass the entire left</quote>Trumpers aren't known for their intelligence or originality </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/13/21 12:39:33 AM #24:	my honest take on being charitable to some of the innocent cultists in QAnon is: some of them are just fundamentally right. They just fail to correctly identify the logic. For example they are all paranoid of Bill Gates microchipping things. Theyve been talking about it for years and now of course theyre still talking about it. But anyway, the fact that theyre afraid of Bill Gates shows they fundamentally realize deep down that hes too powerful. And they fundamentally realize Big Pharma is bad but not in the way it is, like with the opioid epidemic and the kickbacks and all that shit that was reported. so there seems to be a chunk of the qanon garglers then who are probably just uneducated poor fundies who sometimes know part of the truth these exaggerated tales HAVE to make clicks, for ad revenue. No matter the source. At the end of the day there is no independent press, just an attempt to be unique enough to justify recurring clicks money money money follow the money wealth tax plz 10% down with the false gods (50% for royalty maybe) --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951657978] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>my honest take on being charitable to some of the innocent cultists in QAnon is: some of them are just fundamentally right. They just fail to correctly identify the logic. For example they are all paranoid of Bill Gates microchipping things. Theyve been talking about it for years and now of course theyre still talking about it. But anyway, the fact that theyre afraid of Bill Gates shows they fundamentally realize deep down that hes too powerful. And they fundamentally realize Big Pharma is bad but not in the way it is, like with the opioid epidemic and the kickbacks and all that shit that was reported. so there seems to be a chunk of the qanon garglers then who are probably just uneducated poor fundies who sometimes know part of the truth these exaggerated tales HAVE to make clicks, for ad revenue. No matter the source. At the end of the day there is no independent press, just an attempt to be unique enough to justify recurring clicks money money money follow the money wealth tax plz 10% down with the false gods (50% for royalty maybe) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 03/13/21 12:40:40 AM #25:	Seems like pretty much every big conspiracy theory is just PEZ shit with a few extra layers of dressing --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:951658004] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Seems like pretty much every big conspiracy theory is just PEZ shit with a few extra layers of dressing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/13/21 9:37:50 AM #26:	Morning bump --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:951665051] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Morning bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 03/13/21 9:41:59 AM #27:	Whacked out of their fucking minds. --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! <cite>rexcrk posted [p:951665134] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Whacked out of their fucking minds. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 03/13/21 9:54:44 AM #29:	mft1 posted... honestly, if you're at the point where you're writing a hit piece about your mom on buzzfeed there's likely more to the story Something that makes her behavior okay? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:951665375] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>mft1 posted... </cite> <quote>honestly, if you're at the point where you're writing a hit piece about your mom on buzzfeed there's likely more to the story</quote>Something that makes her behavior okay? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 03/13/21 11:18:12 AM #30:	rexcrk posted... Whacked out of their fucking minds. <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:951667338] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>rexcrk posted... </cite> <quote>Whacked out of their fucking minds.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 03/13/21 11:20:58 AM #31:	This is tragic. It's cult behavior that's severed any connection these people had to reality. Now they're just floating in space. I don't know how you fix something like this. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:951667404] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>This is tragic. It's cult behavior that's severed any connection these people had to reality. Now they're just floating in space. I don't know how you fix something like this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rathinor 03/13/21 11:24:38 AM #32:	Ruvan22 posted... Something that makes her behavior okay? That poster is a Trumper. He probably sympathizes with the Q whackjobs <cite>Rathinor posted [p:951667479] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>Something that makes her behavior okay?</quote>That poster is a Trumper. He probably sympathizes with the Q whackjobs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 03/13/21 11:26:26 AM #33:	I lost family to Parlor...they up and closed their facebook trying to get family members to join em. Now we only hear from them if they decide to call. --- If the universe is so big why wont it fight me? <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:951667516] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>I lost family to Parlor...they up and closed their facebook trying to get family members to join em. Now we only hear from them if they decide to call. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mft1 03/13/21 11:27:54 AM #34:	Ruvan22 posted... Something that makes her behavior okay? The more I sat and thought about it the more it actually makes me angry, and makes me angry that any of you think this is somehow defensible behavior. Mom/dad being a little kooky is not morally on the same level as humiliating your own family members to advance your 2-bit journalism career. The way he describes treating his elderly mom is straight-up gaslighting and then he publishes it to the public as a guideplan for other people. Utterly sickening. <cite>mft1 posted [p:951667553] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>Something that makes her behavior okay?</quote>The more I sat and thought about it the more it actually makes me angry, and makes me angry that any of you think this is somehow defensible behavior. Mom/dad being a little kooky is not morally on the same level as humiliating your own family members to advance your 2-bit journalism career. The way he describes treating his elderly mom is straight-up gaslighting and then he publishes it to the public as a guideplan for other people. Utterly sickening. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mft1 03/13/21 11:30:14 AM #35:	Rathinor posted... That poster is a Trumper. He probably sympathizes with the Q whackjobs The author of the piece should sympathize with the Q whackjobs *because one of them is his fucking mother.* Take a step back and think about how poorly this reflects on serious people like Buzzfeed journalists. <cite>mft1 posted [p:951667608] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Rathinor posted... </cite> <quote>That poster is a Trumper. He probably sympathizes with the Q whackjobs</quote>The author of the piece should sympathize with the Q whackjobs because one of them is his fucking mother. Take a step back and think about how poorly this reflects on serious people like Buzzfeed journalists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/13/21 11:32:04 AM #37:	mft1 posted... The author of the piece should sympathize with the Q whackjobs because one of them is his fucking mother I think there's a ton of sympathy extended throughout this piece, which ends this way I wish I could offer some evidence showing that the gulf between us might be narrowing, that my love, persistence, and collection of facts might be enough to draw her back into a reality we share, and that when our wager about the storm comes due in a few months, shell realize that the voices she trusts have been lying to her. But I dont think that will happen. I think new voices will emerge, new theories will replace the old ones, and new leaders will take up the fight with new deceptions to weaponize. What can I do but try to limit the damage? Send my mom movie recommendations to occupy the free time she instead spends on conspiracy research. Shift our conversations to the common ground of cooking recipes and family gossip. Raise objections when her beliefs nudge her toward dangerous decisions. I no longer inhabit the delusion that our divergence is temporary. Though I once feared our partnership was doomed unless I pulled my mom out of the current, I now understand our debates as marks of the very bond I thought was disintegrating. No matter how far she believes Ive fallen into the deep state, how hard I fight for the forces of evil, how imminent the grand plans rapture, my mom will be there on the other side of the line putting in a good word for me with the angels and saints, trying to save me from damnation. And those are the two realities we live in. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:951667653] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>mft1 posted... </cite> <quote>The author of the piece should sympathize with the Q whackjobs because one of them is his fucking mother</quote>I think there's a ton of sympathy extended throughout this piece, which ends this way <quote>I wish I could offer some evidence showing that the gulf between us might be narrowing, that my love, persistence, and collection of facts might be enough to draw her back into a reality we share, and that when our wager about the storm comes due in a few months, shell realize that the voices she trusts have been lying to her. But I dont think that will happen. I think new voices will emerge, new theories will replace the old ones, and new leaders will take up the fight with new deceptions to weaponize. What can I do but try to limit the damage? Send my mom movie recommendations to occupy the free time she instead spends on conspiracy research. Shift our conversations to the common ground of cooking recipes and family gossip. Raise objections when her beliefs nudge her toward dangerous decisions. I no longer inhabit the delusion that our divergence is temporary. Though I once feared our partnership was doomed unless I pulled my mom out of the current, I now understand our debates as marks of the very bond I thought was disintegrating. No matter how far she believes Ive fallen into the deep state, how hard I fight for the forces of evil, how imminent the grand plans rapture, my mom will be there on the other side of the line putting in a good word for me with the angels and saints, trying to save me from damnation. And those are the two realities we live in.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rathinor 03/13/21 11:33:14 AM #38:	mft1 posted... The author of the piece should sympathize with the Q whackjobs *because one of them is his fucking mother.* Take a step back and think about how poorly this reflects on serious people like Buzzfeed journalists. The guy describes her descent into Trumpy madness. It's clear he tried to rescue her but she went too far into MAGA/Q rabbit holes It's sad, but some people put themselves beyond saving <cite>Rathinor posted [p:951667693] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>mft1 posted... </cite> <quote>The author of the piece should sympathize with the Q whackjobs because one of them is his fucking mother. Take a step back and think about how poorly this reflects on serious people like Buzzfeed journalists.</quote>The guy describes her descent into Trumpy madness. It's clear he tried to rescue her but she went too far into MAGA/Q rabbit holes It's sad, but some people put themselves beyond saving </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mft1 03/13/21 11:33:14 AM #39:	it's a hit piece publicly humiliating his mom <cite>mft1 posted [p:951667694] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>it's a hit piece publicly humiliating his mom </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 03/13/21 11:33:17 AM #40:	mft1 posted... The author of the piece should sympathize with the Q whackjobs *because one of them is his fucking mother.* Take a step back and think about how poorly this reflects on serious people like Buzzfeed journalists. I imagine you try to reel them back in before you get to this point. And the article itself is venting and a last ditch effort hoping they see your pov. --- If the universe is so big why wont it fight me? <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:951667695] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>mft1 posted... </cite> <quote>The author of the piece should sympathize with the Q whackjobs because one of them is his fucking mother. Take a step back and think about how poorly this reflects on serious people like Buzzfeed journalists.</quote>I imagine you try to reel them back in before you get to this point. And the article itself is venting and a last ditch effort hoping they see your pov. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mft1 03/13/21 11:35:22 AM #41:	ZeroX91 posted... And the article itself is venting journalism in 2021: venting <cite>mft1 posted [p:951667740] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>ZeroX91 posted... </cite> <quote>And the article itself is venting</quote>journalism in 2021: venting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 03/13/21 11:40:10 AM #42:	Mom and dad being a little kooky apparently = believing that the FBI clamped down on newsrooms across America, including the author's own workplace, and was restricting the flow of news at gunpoint that only a lone patriot had the guts to "legitimately" report on. Apparently, believing in a satanic child-raping blood cult that operates out of the basement of a pizza place and believing that Tom Hanks either moved to Greece to continue his lifelong addiction to raping children or because he was secretly executed by Q and Trump's underground resistance constitutes "a little bit kooky" as well. People are losing their minds thanks to this horseshit. Events like Unite the Right and the Capitol insurrection attempt happen because people let this rot into their brain. And it's extremely unpleasant for close family members who see their loved ones slide further into paranoid delusion. It changes people on a fundamental level when they start to accept this bullshit propaganda as truth. It might not help the people who are being discussed, but maybe people have already tried to get through to them and everything they've tried has failed. Maybe the next best recourse is to share in a common experience and theorise on how people can prevent their parents from going down the same shitty path, to prevent more people from falling headfirst into this buttfuck crazy conspiracy theory. --- I know that you think you're not good for anything, the world makes you feel so small Now Playing: Hyrule Warriors, Old-School Runescape <cite>MrMallard posted [p:951667856] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Mom and dad being a little kooky apparently = believing that the FBI clamped down on newsrooms across America, including the author's own workplace, and was restricting the flow of news at gunpoint that only a lone patriot had the guts to "legitimately" report on. Apparently, believing in a satanic child-raping blood cult that operates out of the basement of a pizza place and believing that Tom Hanks either moved to Greece to continue his lifelong addiction to raping children or because he was secretly executed by Q and Trump's underground resistance constitutes "a little bit kooky" as well. People are losing their minds thanks to this horseshit. Events like Unite the Right and the Capitol insurrection attempt happen because people let this rot into their brain. And it's extremely unpleasant for close family members who see their loved ones slide further into paranoid delusion. It changes people on a fundamental level when they start to accept this bullshit propaganda as truth. It might not help the people who are being discussed, but maybe people have already tried to get through to them and everything they've tried has failed. Maybe the next best recourse is to share in a common experience and theorise on how people can prevent their parents from going down the same shitty path, to prevent more people from falling headfirst into this buttfuck crazy conspiracy theory. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rathinor 03/13/21 11:46:12 AM #43:	mft1 posted... journalism in 2021: venting Is this mft1 guy in the Q cult with all this defensive reaction? I already know he's a Trump cultist, not exactly a huge leap to Q territory <cite>Rathinor posted [p:951668048] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>mft1 posted... </cite> <quote>journalism in 2021: venting</quote>Is this mft1 guy in the Q cult with all this defensive reaction? I already know he's a Trump cultist, not exactly a huge leap to Q territory </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mft1 03/13/21 11:47:31 AM #44:	MrMallard posted... Mom and dad being a little kooky apparently = believing that the FBI clamped down on newsrooms across America, including the author's own workplace, and was restricting the flow of news at gunpoint that only a lone patriot had the guts to "legitimately" report on. Apparently, believing in a satanic child-raping blood cult that operates out of the basement of a pizza place and believing that Tom Hanks either moved to Greece to continue his lifelong addiction to raping children or because he was secretly executed by Q and Trump's underground resistance constitutes "a little bit kooky" as well. People are losing their minds thanks to this horseshit. Events like Unite the Right and the Capitol insurrection attempt happen because people let this rot into their brain. And it's extremely unpleasant for close family members who see their loved ones slide further into paranoid delusion. It changes people on a fundamental level when they start to accept this bullshit propaganda as truth. it's also extremely unpleasant for your family members to write hit pieces about your personal life for buzzfeed MrMallard posted... It might not help the people who are being discussed thank you for admitting this is a shitty thing to do to your mom <cite>mft1 posted [p:951668083] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted... </cite> <quote>Mom and dad being a little kooky apparently = believing that the FBI clamped down on newsrooms across America, including the author's own workplace, and was restricting the flow of news at gunpoint that only a lone patriot had the guts to "legitimately" report on. Apparently, believing in a satanic child-raping blood cult that operates out of the basement of a pizza place and believing that Tom Hanks either moved to Greece to continue his lifelong addiction to raping children or because he was secretly executed by Q and Trump's underground resistance constitutes "a little bit kooky" as well. People are losing their minds thanks to this horseshit. Events like Unite the Right and the Capitol insurrection attempt happen because people let this rot into their brain. And it's extremely unpleasant for close family members who see their loved ones slide further into paranoid delusion. It changes people on a fundamental level when they start to accept this bullshit propaganda as truth.</quote>it's also extremely unpleasant for your family members to write hit pieces about your personal life for buzzfeed MrMallard posted... </cite> <quote>It might not help the people who are being discussed</quote> thank you for admitting this is a shitty thing to do to your mom </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/13/21 11:48:33 AM #45:	Way before Trump, when I was in college, my uncle, a regular limbaugh listener, got into a business deal with his friend for a "new" source of energy. They were going to use solar panels to move some turbines, or some such, to get "infinite energy" I was studying solar cells at the time and I was like, oh don't do that, let me explain to you why that won't work. Of course he didn't believe me because of my college indoctrination. Dude still has a shitload of unused solar panels in his shed --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:951668113] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Way before Trump, when I was in college, my uncle, a regular limbaugh listener, got into a business deal with his friend for a "new" source of energy. They were going to use solar panels to move some turbines, or some such, to get "infinite energy" I was studying solar cells at the time and I was like, oh don't do that, let me explain to you why that won't work. Of course he didn't believe me because of my college indoctrination. Dude still has a shitload of unused solar panels in his shed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mft1 03/13/21 11:49:09 AM #46:	Balrog0 posted... Way before Trump, when I was in college, my uncle, a regular limbaugh listener, got into a business deal with his friend for a "new" source of energy. They were going to use solar panels to move some turbines, or some such, to get "infinite energy" I was studying solar cells at the time and I was like, oh don't do that, let me explain to you why that won't work. Of course he didn't believe me because of my college indoctrination. Dude still has a shitload of unused solar panels in his shed lol did you write a buzzfeed article about him <cite>mft1 posted [p:951668130] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>Way before Trump, when I was in college, my uncle, a regular limbaugh listener, got into a business deal with his friend for a "new" source of energy. They were going to use solar panels to move some turbines, or some such, to get "infinite energy" I was studying solar cells at the time and I was like, oh don't do that, let me explain to you why that won't work. Of course he didn't believe me because of my college indoctrination. Dude still has a shitload of unused solar panels in his shed</quote>lol did you write a buzzfeed article about him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 03/13/21 11:55:14 AM #47:	Nah lol I never even said I told ya so or anything --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:951668305] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>Nah lol I never even said I told ya so or anything </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rathinor 03/13/21 12:01:59 PM #48:	mft1 posted... lol did you write a buzzfeed article about him You are irrationally butthurt over this <cite>Rathinor posted [p:951668499] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>mft1 posted... </cite> <quote>lol did you write a buzzfeed article about him</quote>You are irrationally butthurt over this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 03/13/21 12:02:08 PM #49:	mft1 posted... The author of the piece should sympathize with the neo-nazis *because one of them is his fucking mother.* This is what you sound like. If OP is meant to sympathize with a loved one who's becoming more and more radicalised by a hate group, what's to stop us from insisting he should stand by a neo-nazi? That rather than bringing attention to the radicalisation that their family member went through despite their best efforts to help them, they should show a bit of loyalty to them for the good things they did before they were radicalised? The reporter elaborated on how they approached their mother's behavior. They talked about different conspiracy theories that they had been able to challenge their mother on. They painted the process through which their mother was radicalized, and despite their better efforts to reach through, it took hold anyway and she began to view Donald Trump as a soldier against the forces of corruption despite his own widespread corruption. The reporter tried to help their mother. They were sympathetic, they didn't want to see their mom slide further into misinformation and radical conspiracy theories. And she's now at a point where they don't think they can reach her any more. They showed her sympathy, and they tried to help her. But she succumbed to this whackadoodle horseshit anyway, and it looks like there's no way out for her. A lot of people feel the same way about their own radicalised relatives, and maybe by sharing this process, they can affect wider efforts to prevent more people from going down this sort of path. So let's say that the reporter's mother didn't fall in with qanon. Instead, she began spouting racist rhetoric about the "lazy" immigrants, or about black people, and how the ones that were "hurting America" deserved to be rounded up into camps. Imagine she began speaking about how George Floyd deserved to die, and the people who protested in his name deserved to get shot by the police or hit by "patriots" in their cars for subverting American sovereignty or what have you. Are you saying that the reporter would be wrong to go "it's been an incredibly fucked up turn of events to watch my mother descend into this bullshit despite my best efforts, and I can only hope that more people can be dissuaded from that worldview if they understand the demographic that these hate groups are preying on and the journey that people like my mom are put through" if that hate group were unabashed neo-nazis? Because qanon supporters aren't that far off in how they recruit and radicalize people. And the political aims of neo-nazis align neatly with qanon supporters, too. Should we show loyalty to family members who are praying for bloodshed in the name of a false justice fed to them by bigots, or should we do our best to prevent more people from being inducted into these fucking hate groups? --- I know that you think you're not good for anything, the world makes you feel so small Now Playing: Hyrule Warriors, Old-School Runescape <cite>MrMallard posted [p:951668503] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>mft1 posted... </cite> <quote>The author of the piece should sympathize with the neo-nazis because one of them is his fucking mother.</quote>This is what you sound like. If OP is meant to sympathize with a loved one who's becoming more and more radicalised by a hate group, what's to stop us from insisting he should stand by a neo-nazi? That rather than bringing attention to the radicalisation that their family member went through despite their best efforts to help them, they should show a bit of loyalty to them for the good things they did before they were radicalised? The reporter elaborated on how they approached their mother's behavior. They talked about different conspiracy theories that they had been able to challenge their mother on. They painted the process through which their mother was radicalized, and despite their better efforts to reach through, it took hold anyway and she began to view Donald Trump as a soldier against the forces of corruption despite his own widespread corruption. The reporter tried to help their mother. They were sympathetic, they didn't want to see their mom slide further into misinformation and radical conspiracy theories. And she's now at a point where they don't think they can reach her any more. They showed her sympathy, and they tried to help her. But she succumbed to this whackadoodle horseshit anyway, and it looks like there's no way out for her. A lot of people feel the same way about their own radicalised relatives, and maybe by sharing this process, they can affect wider efforts to prevent more people from going down this sort of path. So let's say that the reporter's mother didn't fall in with qanon. Instead, she began spouting racist rhetoric about the "lazy" immigrants, or about black people, and how the ones that were "hurting America" deserved to be rounded up into camps. Imagine she began speaking about how George Floyd deserved to die, and the people who protested in his name deserved to get shot by the police or hit by "patriots" in their cars for subverting American sovereignty or what have you. Are you saying that the reporter would be wrong to go "it's been an incredibly fucked up turn of events to watch my mother descend into this bullshit despite my best efforts, and I can only hope that more people can be dissuaded from that worldview if they understand the demographic that these hate groups are preying on and the journey that people like my mom are put through" if that hate group were unabashed neo-nazis? Because qanon supporters aren't that far off in how they recruit and radicalize people. And the political aims of neo-nazis align neatly with qanon supporters, too. Should we show loyalty to family members who are praying for bloodshed in the name of a false justice fed to them by bigots, or should we do our best to prevent more people from being inducted into these fucking hate groups? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mft1 03/13/21 12:02:33 PM #50:	<cite>mft1 posted [p:951668510] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AldousIsDead 03/13/21 12:04:03 PM #51:	mft1 posted... Eloquent rebuttal. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. <cite>AldousIsDead posted [p:951668537] in "How ... [t:79346055]...</cite> <quote>mft1 posted... </cite> <quote></quote>Eloquent rebuttal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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