Current Events > Covid vaccine distribution in poor, Black communities raises racism questions

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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/10/jj-covid-vaccine-distribution-in-poor-black-communities-raises-race-questions.html

Detroit resident Logan Patmon knows Johnson & Johnsons Covid-19 vaccine is easier to distribute than Moderna and Pfizers shots. The 28-year-old Black attorney said he sees it as inferior because clinical trial data has shown J&Js is 72% effective at guarding against Covid in the U.S., compared with about 95% for the other two vaccines. Why go for 70 when you can get 95? he said. To public officials, J&Js shot is a blessing since it can be stored at refrigerator temperatures for months and takes just one dose unlike Pfizer and Modernas, which require freezers and two rounds of jabs spaced about a month apart. That makes J&Js shot an important tool in getting life-saving vaccines to people who may not be able to come back for a second appointment. Its especially valuable in getting the shots to hard-to-reach places that may not have reliable refrigeration, such as tribal lands, poorer neighborhoods as well as rural and border communities, officials say. Just because it is the easiest thing to do, it doesnt mean its the right thing to do, Patmon told CNBC.

You dont want to it to be a situation where segregated, wealthier areas get the better vaccine and the poor, more minority areas are told, Just be happy. Public officials are running into an unforeseen issue with distributing J&Js shots. Though unintentional, their lower efficacy rate has some people questioning whether its just another example of subtly racist treatment of minorities in America. While J&Js vaccine is highly effective, especially against severe illness and death, Patmon and other Americans still see it as inferior. By sending it to poorer zip codes in big cities and rural communities, public officials risk allegations of discrimination, health experts say. That could further erode trust in the vaccine rollout, especially in communities of color, experts say, as more data from states shows Blacks and Hispanics continue to make up a disproportionate share of Covid-19 fatalities but are receiving the vaccines at significantly lower rates than White people. In New York, for example, Black people represent about 16% of the states population and account for 23% of Covid-19 deaths, but have received just 8% of the shots so far, according to a March 3 report from the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation, which analyzed state-reported data. Hispanics make up 19% of the population and 23% of Covid deaths but have received just 9% of the shots. White people account for 63% of the population and 40% of deaths, but they have gotten 81% of vaccinations, according to the KFF analysis.



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I mean you're give the weaker probably less tested one to poor people. It's not really disguised. The people in control don't see poor people as worth the effort to use the ones that are harder to store. When realky, the better ones should go to those taking care of more people, regardless of wealth. And I mean physically taking care of others. So the women rich people hire to raise their kids should get it before them

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Of course, keeping the good vaccines where the beefy freezers are, is also "racist" somehow.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

I mean you're give the weaker probably less tested one to poor people. It's not really disguised

Wow. So now they're literally distributing clinically proven lower quality vaccine in Black neighborhoods? That's crazy

And people said I was a conspiracy theorist and had a victim mentality for saying Black people shouldnt trust the vaccine because the government has a history of targeting us with dangerous lesser quality medicines.

Yet every single time this is proven to be true.

2Pacavelli posted...

Wow. So now they're literally distributing clinically proven lower quality vaccine in Black neighborhoods? That's crazy

It's about the only viable option. Poor areas, including tribal lands and hillbilly mountains, aren't typically going to have a large industrial freezer capable of getting to -90F.

Wait, a country founded on racism, jim crow and redlining has an inequitable public health system?

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Questionmarktarius posted...

It's about the only viable option. Poor areas, including tribal lands and hillbilly mountains, aren't typically going to have a large industrial freezer capable of getting to -90F.

Do these people have to option to go to a place out of their way to get the vaccines? Im sure a lot would be willing.

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The J&J vaccine is better anyway. One shot, doesn't need frozen with liquid nitrogen, and it's been tested and works against the variants like the South African strain.

In the trials, no one who took the J&J vaccine died. Even if you get covid somehow it's only a mild form of it.

Everyone already called it when the vaccines were going out that the good ones would go to the rich and well off and the shit ones would go to the poor and the truly shit ones would be sent to minority communities

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Do these people have to option to go to a place out of their way to get the vaccines? Im sure a lot would be willing.

"Option", yes. Of course, the shitty public transit system, and car culture itself, are probably also "racist" somehow.

Questionmarktarius posted...

"Option", yes. Of course, the shitty public transit system, and car culture itself, are probably also "racist" somehow.

Do you believe that race doesn't play a factor in America?


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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Do you believe that race doesn't play a factor in America?

Outside of the south, overt racism isn't a factor. Some sort of "moneyism" is, which has huge overlap from when overt racism was a factor, several decades ago.

"The poors" is the vector now, which encompasses homeless, hillbillies, tribal reservations, and yes, neighborhoods created by 50s redlining.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Outside of the south, overt racism isn't a factor. Some sort of "moneyism" is, which has huge overlap from when overt racism was a factor, several decades ago.

Overt racism isn't the more harmful version of racism >_>. It's the stuff like this where America is set up to keep minorities held back financially so that when it comes to everything else, they're also last in line because of the class discrimination as well. They're directly connected. It's stuff like property value going down when inspected and a black couple lives there vs. a white couple.

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