Current Events > Doctor Who makes HISTORY with the first GAY DOCTOR replacing Jodie Whittaker!!

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People said both Tom Baker and Colin Baker(I wonder if they are related ) Doctor were not CIS. (sorry if that is the wrong term I am trying to put this a way that is nice to everyone). I don't know if it was just an insult are if there was something more to it. If it was just an insult sorry.



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ImAMarvel posted...

Weren't there a couple more in classic Who who were the Doctor for longer than 3 seasons?

The First Doctor did 3 Seasons of ~40 (half hour) episodes each, then started a 4th Season but fell ill. Patrick Troughton did most of the 4th Season, then Seasons 5 and 6. So they each did about 3 Seasons. Hartnell had 13 episodes and Troughton had 119.
Starting with Season 7, Seasons were much shorter. Jon Pertwee did Seasons 7 and 8 as 25 episode Seasons, then Seasons 9-11 as 26 episode Seasons. So while Pertwee did 5 Seasons, he actually had 2 episodes fewer than Hartnell (128, compared to Hartnell's 130.)
Tom Baker took over in Season 12 and carried on through Season 18. Seasons 13-16 were all the typical 26 episodes, but Seasons 12 and 17 got cut short, so they were only 20. Season 18 was 28. He had 172 episodes overall.
Peter Davison took over for Seasons 19-21. Season 19 had 26 episodes, Season 20 had 22, but also a 90-minute Special roughly equivalent to 4 episodes. He then did all of Season 21 except the last Serial (4 episodes), which was done by Colin Baker. Overall, Peter Davison did the equivalent of 74 episodes. So his "3 Seasons" aren't really comparable to Troughton's "3 Seasons".
After Colin Baker did one 4-part Serial in Season 21, Season 22 was comprised of 13 45-minute episodes. Season 23 (Baker's last) was 14 episodes, but back to 25 minutes each. He did the rough equivalent of 44 episodes. (For comparison, Hartnell's first Season is 42 episodes).
Sylvester McCoy did the last 3 Seasons (24-26) before the show got cancelled, but they planned to keep him on for Season 27, and they even had some plans with him for Season 28. In the end, he only got 42 episodes.
The 8th Doctor got one Movie.

The 9th Doctor chose to leave after one Series. The Tenth Doctor was offered to do Series 5 under Moffat, but instead chose to leave after a series of Specials. The Eleventh Doctor was originally planned to have a 4th Series, but also chose to leave instead. The 12th Doctor was also offered the chance to do Series 11 under Chibnall, but instead opted to leave with Moffat.

Anyway, the point of me writing everything up is that a "season" is an inconsistent measurement. Whittaker has had 2 10-episode Series' and 2 New Years Specials. Her next Series is scheduled to be only 7 episodes and a Special. That's much shorter than any previous NuWho Doctor (besides Eccleston). Tennant got 47 Eps, Smith 44, Capaldi 40, and if she is leaving after Series 13, Whittaker will only have 30 Episodes.

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ImAMarvel posted...

Thanks for the information, guys.

One of these days, I'm finally going to get into Doctor Who. I've tried before but I could never get past the third or so episode of Eccleston Who.

Unquiet Dead is a bit of a lull for a new viewer, and I can definitely see Episodes 4 and 5 turning off a LOT of people. I'd recommend skipping ahead to The Empty Child and The Doctor Dances and seeing if you enjoy those.

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Caroniver posted...

Unquiet Dead is a bit of a lull for a new viewer, and I can definitely see Episodes 4 and 5 turning off a LOT of people. I'd recommend skipping ahead to The Empty Child and The Doctor Dances and seeing if you enjoy those.

I recommend skipping RTD's entire era and just going straight to Matt Smith.

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BeyondWalls posted...

I recommend skipping RTD's entire era and just going straight to Matt Smith.

Lol no.


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BeyondWalls posted...

I recommend skipping RTD's entire era and just going straight to Matt Smith.

Please ignore this advice.

Yes. RTD was the worst. There were probably 5 good episodes that whole era, and they're now full of painfully dated CGI.

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Bruh I seent that one 70s dr with the scarf that shit aint new

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BeyondWalls posted...

and they're now full of painfully dated CGI.

Pfft.
Some of us grew up watching bubblewrap monsters.

I've done an official count - Out of 61 RTD stories, 13 are worth watching. And I was being extremely generous.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Pfft.
Some of us grew up watching bubblewrap monsters.

Let me put it like this... the bubble wrap in Ark in Space looks more convincing than the CGI in Tooth and Claw.

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This seems obligatory now: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SpecialEffectFailure/DoctorWho

ITT: Stupid gatekeeping.

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BeyondWalls posted...

Yes. RTD was the worst. There were probably 5 good episodes that whole era, and they're now full of painfully dated CGI.

David Tennant's first season is the worst one of the entire reboot era.

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spikethedevil posted...

ITT: Stupid gatekeeping.

The gate wobbles when you lean on it.

BeyondWalls posted...

I've done an official count - Out of 61 RTD stories, 13 are worth watching. And I was being extremely generous.

No.

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Hayame Zero posted...

David Tennant's first season is the worst one of the entire reboot era.

I liked the guy before him and the guy after him. Not really a Dr who fan tho

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BeyondWalls posted...

I recommend skipping RTD's entire era and just going straight to Matt Smith.

only do this if you are want to watch a man realize he can never one up his original what a twist episode, and go slowly more and more insane as he tries anyway and fails for years at a time

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I've literally never watched an episode of Dr. Who, and I doubt I ever will.
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BeyondWalls posted...

I've done an official count - Out of 61 RTD stories, 13 are worth watching. And I was being extremely generous.

... 61? There are 60? Well, 60 episodes. You said "stories", though, of which there are 46 stories.
Anyway, I did my own official count. Of 60 episodes, 60 are worth watching. Because even if someone else dislikes something, that doesn't mean everyone will.
And out of the 84 Moffat-era episodes? 84 are worth watching.

ultimate reaver posted...

only do this if you are want to watch a man realize he can never one up his original what a twist episode, and go slowly more and more insane as he tries anyway and fails for years at a time

turns on Let's Kill Hitler
Man, Steven Moffat really hit a mid-life crisis when he realized he could never write Blink again.

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Caroniver posted...

... 61? There are 60? Well, 60 episodes. You said "stories", though, of which there are 46 stories.
Anyway, I did my own official count. Of 60 episodes, 60 are worth watching. Because even if someone else dislikes something, that doesn't mean everyone will.
And out of the 84 Moffat-era episodes? 84 are worth watching.

Weird take. Yeah, everyone likes something. Doesn't mean everything is worth seeing based on the idea you might like it lol.
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There was point in the early 80s or so where it was obvious that Tom Baker just stopped giving a fuck, and those episodes were all the better for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS0bCSLx8JI

I like how people absolutely will not rest until Idris Elba is cast as a white character.

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Sayoria posted...

As a trans woman, I think they should hire me for their next Diversity Doctor.

The doctor is already transgender, having been both Male and female.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

early 80s or so

That's Season 17, so 1979. But close.

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Sayoria posted...

As a trans woman, I think they should hire me for their next Diversity Doctor.

You're literally a Dalek

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Caroniver posted...

That's Season 17, so 1979. But close.

The same guy who shattered his collarbone, but finished that serial anyway, several years earlier.

Questionmarktarius posted...

The same guy who shattered his collarbone, but finished that serial anyway, several years earlier.

In his first season, no less. Imagine that being one of your first experiences on set.

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Caroniver posted...

In his first season, no less. Imagine that being one of your first experiences on set.

That whole series (12) was cursed.

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Ticking diversity checkboxes like this is the literal definition of pandering. The show is dead

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Ticking diversity checkboxes like this is the literal definition of pandering. The show is dead

And why do you believe this casting is 100% fact? @Kloe_Rinz

Kloe_Rinz
New User User Since: Feb 2021Karma: 7Active Posts: 27

Oh.


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spikethedevil posted...

And why do you believe this casting is 100% fact? @Kloe_Rinz

Kloe_Rinz
New User User Since: Feb 2021Karma: 7Active Posts: 27

Oh.

Who said I believed it? The show already panders to SJWs so its not as if they wouldnt do this anyway. Pretty dumb to just troll someone due to their account level, but I bet the mods are biased in your favour so you get away with it.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Who said I believed it? The show already panders to SJWs so its not as if they wouldnt do this anyway. Pretty dumb to just troll someone due to their account level, but I bet the mods are biased in your favour so you get away with it.

My favorite SJW pandering is when the megacorporation's robots started murdering people and then the Doctor straight-up said "the system is never at fault we only need to blame people who abuse the system."
And, of course, my favorite story from back when Doctor Who was apolitical is Season 12's Genesis of the Daleks, which portrays innocent genocidal Nazis as evil. Or perhaps the breakout companion from Seasons 25 and 26, Ace. She has a Hammer and Sickle on her jacket.

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Yeah... Doctor Who has always been a bit preachy.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Yeah... Doctor Who has always been a bit preachy.

Uncomfortably so now.

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AndrewCuomo posted...

I've literally never watched an episode of Dr. Who, and I doubt I ever will.

You've pretty much missed the boat at this point.

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cant answer since I'm scared tc will use it to dox
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Yeah... Doctor Who has always been a bit preachy.

Did you mean: The entire Science Fiction genre?
Also, I forgot the Season 2 (1964) opener, Planet of Giants, in which an evil business owner doesn't care how dangerous his pesticide is because he wants to make lots of money.

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Caroniver posted...

Did you mean: The entire Science Fiction genre?

Hitchhiker's Guide is only a little preachy. Red Dwarf doesn't bother.

Should Full Throttle be forced to cite where he's stealing news articles from? Vote now.... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/573081-hellhole/79331056

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BeyondWalls posted...

I recommend skipping RTD's entire era and just going straight to Matt Smith.

This is a terrible opinion.

Of the three new-series showrunners, he's by far the best. Chibnall straight up sucks, and Moffat clearly stopped caring by the end of Matt Smith's seasons.

cjsdowg posted...

People said both Tom Baker and Colin Baker(I wonder if they are related ) Doctor were not CIS. (sorry if that is the wrong term I am trying to put this a way that is nice to everyone). I don't know if it was just an insult are if there was something more to it. If it was just an insult sorry.

By "CIS," you mean cisgender? As far as I can recall, both of those Doctors always identified as male.

But again, Time Lords are pretty gender fluid since they can change sex upon regeneration.

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I'm more upset at the actors being given shit episodes during their tenure. Three seasons is a fine amount of time, but when most of the scripts they get are garbage, you want them to stick around just so they might get something good next season. Especially Capaldi, imo -- he's my favorite Doctor, but almost all of his first season is nigh unwatchable, and he only started to get good stuff towards the end of his time of the show. He deserved a fourth season.

Slayer_22 posted...

I only watched a few episodes of the David Tennant ones, those were pretty good. Is it worth getting into such a long running series with apparently such bad writing?

I'd recommend having someone who's watched it give you a list of the best episodes, and then you deciding to go from there. Especially the Classic series, since a lot of it is...well...not super good.

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I've watched most of this show from the classic stuff onwards and there's a sense of endearment to the older stuff where it's easier to get through because it's historically interesting and fun from that perspective in addition to giving you more context with fun characters. With that last season, I really feel like the show's just not for me anymore, and I've made it through a lot of trash watching everything else. Legitimately Graham was the only enjoyable character that's been around the last couple seasons and he's gone now, so I'm dead in the water.

The moment I realized that the show was just gonna get worse with the new showrunner was when the doctor gets all flustered about the guy who just shoots the giant spider (that is clearly in pain and already dying) when she literally just suffocated (or starved? I forget) like 100 other giant spiders.

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slmcknett posted...

I'd recommend having someone who's watched it give you a list of the best episodes, and then you deciding to go from there. Especially the Classic series, since a lot of it is...well...not super good.

I actually have been showing a friend the old and new Doctor Who series, switching back and forth, with a list of classic stories to watch to keep things interesting.
Out of the interest of fairness, I also decided to write up a list of which episodes of the revival series have important details for the plot. It ended up being nearly all of them.

Garlands_Soul posted...

The moment I realized that the show was just gonna get worse with the new showrunner was when the doctor gets all flustered about the guy who just shoots the giant spider (that is clearly in pain and already dying) when she literally just suffocated (or starved? I forget) like 100 other giant spiders.

Yeah, Arachnids in the UK was pretty shit towards the end. Lots of fun moments in the first half, but then the solution is to let them all die a slow and painful death?

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Am I reading this right or is there nothing to suggest the character is gay, just the actor?
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Have heaed buzz on dr.who in years. That goes to show it likely went to pot.

I remember like what 4 years ago? It was all over youtube about the war dr. or whatever that was.

No doubt this is a failed attempt to generate buzz more than anything else.

DeadBankerDream posted...

Am I reading this right or is there nothing to suggest the character is gay, just the actor?

Gay actors have to play gay characters. Thats the rule now.

And straight actors are forbidden from playing gay characters.

Its the new black face controversy in Hollywood.

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Caroniver posted...

Yeah, Arachnids in the UK was pretty shit towards the end. Lots of fun moments in the first half, but then the solution is to let them all die a slow and painful death?

An issue with a lot of Jodie's episodes comes from the endings feeling rushed, incomplete, or missing the story's point.

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slmcknett posted...

An issue with a lot of Jodie's episodes comes from the endings feeling rushed, incomplete, or missing the story's point.

Yeah I'm reminded of the one with the guy who name drops a bunch of big immortal characters from the classic stuff like the toymaker and the guardians and just gets defeated in the same episode.

Or the couple where the ending just straight up sucks and they fill the time with the doctor literally explaining the message of the episode with this bizarre motivational speech about the political issue the episode is about.

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