Current Events > Jesus. How many gay characters are there in AC valhalla?

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It seems like every other character is gay lol. This isnt a complaint btw. Just an observation. Was homosexuality cool with the vikings?

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That's how odyssey was too

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Odyssey and Valhalla allow you to be with all characters no matter your gender or theirs.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

Odyssey and Valhalla allow you to be with all characters no matter your gender or theirs.

That is dumb. Nothing wrong with gay people but not everyone is gay. It's unrealistic to make every single person in the game world bi. It should be like how certain rpgs are. Some npcs are gay, some are straight, some are bi. And you just simply are only able to romance the ones who match up with your characters gender

BobanMarjanovic posted...

That's how odyssey was too

The Greeks invented threesomes and the Romans added women.

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Zikten posted...

That is dumb. Nothing wrong with gay people but not everyone is gay. It's unrealistic to make every single person in the game world bi. It should be like how certain rpgs are. Some npcs are gay, some are straight, some are bi. And you just simply are only able to romance the ones who match up with your characters gender

You're missing the point; of course they all aren't, but the game lets you choose which are. Maybe some people's in game is they want everyone to be gay.

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Zikten posted...

That is dumb. Nothing wrong with gay people but not everyone is gay. It's unrealistic to make every single person in the game world bi. It should be like how certain rpgs are. Some npcs are gay, some are straight, some are bi. And you just simply are only able to romance the ones who match up with your characters gender

You've had some really dumb takes lately. Not every single person in the game world is bi.

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Zikten posted...

That is dumb. Nothing wrong with gay people but not everyone is gay. It's unrealistic to make every single person in the game world bi. It should be like how certain rpgs are. Some npcs are gay, some are straight, some are bi. And you just simply are only able to romance the ones who match up with your characters gender

Shut the fuck up

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Zikten posted...

That is dumb. Nothing wrong with gay people but not everyone is gay. It's unrealistic to make every single person in the game world bi. It should be like how certain rpgs are. Some npcs are gay, some are straight, some are bi. And you just simply are only able to romance the ones who match up with your characters gender

You can swap the gender of the main character during the game. They're not trying to be realistic.

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Just Ubisoft pandering. Nothing more.

Jiggy101011 posted...

You've had some really dumb takes lately. Not every single person in the game world is bi.

I'm just going off a post in this topic. I've only played the early AC games

Zikten posted...

That is dumb. Nothing wrong with gay people but not everyone is gay. It's unrealistic to make every single person in the game world bi. It should be like how certain rpgs are. Some npcs are gay, some are straight, some are bi. And you just simply are only able to romance the ones who match up with your characters gender

bUt iT's NoT rEaLiStiC

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Zikten posted...

That is dumb. Nothing wrong with gay people but not everyone is gay. It's unrealistic to make every single person in the game world bi. It should be like how certain rpgs are. Some npcs are gay, some are straight, some are bi. And you just simply are only able to romance the ones who match up with your characters gender

What a stupid thing to complain about.
I want gamers to have FEWER options!
Doubt youd complain if every character were straight.

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Eliza3 posted...

What a stupid thing to complain about.
I want gamers to have FEWER options!
Doubt youd complain if every character were straight.

I would actually. Rpgs should have options but it should make sense. You can calm your outrage. Have you played the remakes of Baldurs Gate 1 and 2? Or the Dragon Age games? They have every npc set as being either straight gay or bi. And then your gender designates your romance options for that playthrough

That is what I was comparing it to.

there aren't even that many romancable npcs, i remember like... 4 or 5

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Its a game based on fiction.
Why not have that entire universe be gay?

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Ancient Greece was pretty cool with all the sex, they didn't really see it as a "gay" thing. I mean, this isn't entirely correct, but its close enough to say Odyssey's stuff is perfectly fine

And I think its way better that your character has the ability to **** whatever they want.

Zikten posted...

I would actually. Rpgs should have options but it should make sense. You can calm your outrage. Have you played the remakes of Baldurs Gate 1 and 2? Or the Dragon Age games? They have every npc set as being either straight gay or bi. And then your gender designates your romance options for that playthrough

That is what I was comparing it to.

Again your character doesn't have a set gender in AC and you can swap when you want. It's not that kind of game.

If they gender locked romances that would stop people who want to swap as they play through the game.

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Darmik posted...

Again your character doesn't have a set gender in AC and you can swap when you want. It's not that kind of game.

If they gender locked romances that would stop people who want to swap as they play through the game.

I understand that now. I was just defending myself against Eliza. I dont really know where her anger came from. I dont think what I said is unreasonable for a normal rpg (where you can't swap your gender)

DemonBuffet posted...

Its a game based on fiction.
Why not have that entire universe be gay?

This, isn't this the point? In the game they're whatever orientation you prefer or don't prefer or don't care about. Much as in real life I get a silent secret enjoyment out of others finding my being desirable. Mayhaps I go to the local bar termed 'The Pumping Station' with my lesbian sister to get macked on a bit for my self esteem.

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Zikten posted...

I would actually. Rpgs should have options but it should make sense. You can calm your outrage. Have you played the remakes of Baldurs Gate 1 and 2? Or the Dragon Age games? They have every npc set as being either straight gay or bi. And then your gender designates your romance options for that playthrough

That is what I was comparing it to.

Yes I have. But you havent even played Valhalla so maybe you should calm your ignorance, bud.

The AC games let you romance NPCs who arent party members. Theyre often largely unimportant characters.

The recent, hugely popular farming sim games, Stardew Valley and the FoMT remake allow you to romance anyone regardless of gender. Gonna complain about that too? The addition of unrestricted player choice improves the game. If you want to head cannon an inconsequential NPC to be a specific orientation, then just play your game accordingly.

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i personally think romance in games is done really shitty. all that happens is you get a cutscene that fades to black, implying you fucked. then it's back to normal like nothing happened. no new story arc, nothing you get for committing, and your "partner" disappears back into the background for the rest of the game

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Proto_Spark posted...

And I think its way better that your character has the ability to **** whatever they want.

Agreed. Its better to give players more choices than arbitrary limits, when it comes to things players largely want to do in-game.

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viewmaster_pi posted...

i personally think romance in games is done really shitty. all that happens is you get a cutscene that fades to black, implying you fucked. then it's back to normal like nothing happened. no new story arc, nothing you get for committing, and your "partner" disappears back into the background for the rest of the game

How dare you presume to know the intricacies of our relationship. Their consistency and repetition are the warm blanket that maintains our marital bed.

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viewmaster_pi posted...

i personally think romance in games is done really shitty. all that happens is you get a cutscene that fades to black, implying you fucked. then it's back to normal like nothing happened. no new story arc, nothing you get for committing, and your "partner" disappears back into the background for the rest of the game

yeah I don't like this either. Even if there's a character that you have a whole sidequest for (there's one or two for AC Odyssey) once its over, you just **** again and they still disappear into the background, never to be seen again.

Heck, even just being able to go back and have 2 lines of dialogue would add a bunch.

actually i have to give skyrim credit for allowing your spouse to actually join you on your adventures, depending on who you pick

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viewmaster_pi posted...

i personally think romance in games is done really shitty. all that happens is you get a cutscene that fades to black, implying you fucked. then it's back to normal like nothing happened. no new story arc, nothing you get for committing, and your "partner" disappears back into the background for the rest of the game

It's more about the storyline of the romance than hoping to see some sex scene

Zikten posted...

That is dumb. Nothing wrong with gay people but not everyone is gay. It's unrealistic to make every single person in the game world bi. It should be like how certain rpgs are. Some npcs are gay, some are straight, some are bi. And you just simply are only able to romance the ones who match up with your characters gender

I love how nobody has an actual reason to be against this.

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Zikten posted...

It's more about the storyline of the romance than hoping to see some sex scene

you don't get either, lol

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dave_is_slick posted...

I love how nobody has an actual reason to be against this.

I feel like in an rpg you shoukd be able to mold yourself into anything but not the other characters. Call me weird but it almost seems offensive to say "anyone can be gay if you want them to"

Proto_Spark posted...

yeah I don't like this either. Even if there's a character that you have a whole sidequest for (there's one or two for AC Odyssey) once its over, you just **** again and they still disappear into the background, never to be seen again.

Heck, even just being able to go back and have 2 lines of dialogue would add a bunch.

I know that bugged me. I wish you could continue the romance. Only a select few characters could even come with you after it was over.

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Actually you could do the same thing in Skyrim. This isn't even a new thing. I don't get how anyone would be upset by this.

Zikten posted...

it almost seems offensive to say "anyone can be gay if you want them to"

Jfc

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Zikten posted...

I feel like in an rpg you shoukd be able to mold yourself into anything but not the other characters. Call me weird but it almost seems offensive to say "anyone can be gay if you want them to"

I dunno. It's an RPG where you set the story. The characters aren't real.

I guess it depends if you see yourself as a character in a pre-determined world with pre-determined characters or if you see the game itself as a type of interactive fiction where you can make your own certain decisions with the plot and story. I don't think you'll get a universal answer for what people want.

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Eliza I have nothing against you but you always have seemed kinda irritated at me for some reason

I think you have me all wrong. But whatever. Feel how you want. I'm not going to continue this conversation

This game like all the others is set in the Animus a machine that recreates the setting via virtual reality. In this game there is more emphasis that it is a simulation as you can change Eivor from male to female and vice versa at the press of a button.

In this game and Odyssey all romance options are bisexual so the player can choose to be whatever.

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Zikten posted...

I feel like in an rpg you shoukd be able to mold yourself into anything but not the other characters. Call me weird but it almost seems offensive to say "anyone can be gay if you want them to"

I mean, that is pretty much what ancient Greeks believed. That, and option selected NPCs are still consistent in a multipath game.

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I thought the ancient Greeks were only cool with gay sex if you were the one...delivering. The receiver was considered lesser at the time, I thought. >_>

but its a game franchise about using DNA memory to reconstruct past events. If you absolutely need an explanation you can just pretend the Animus or whatever doesnt have the ability to recall sexual orientation of every person who ever lived, and fills in the blanks based on player actions <_<

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AlisLandale posted...

I thought the ancient Greeks were only cool with gay sex if you were the one...delivering.

I dont know about the Greeks for sure, but I know it was this way in ancient Rome.

And I don't know if I would say they were against it. But yes they considered the one delivering to be superior. In the case of 2 men, the deliverer was the one they considered an actual man and the other was considered effeminate and inferior

Zikten posted...

Eliza I have nothing against you but you always have seemed kinda irritated at me for some reason

I think you have me all wrong. But whatever. Feel how you want. I'm not going to continue this conversation

You made a bad topic so you get what you give man.

You don't have to sleep with every character, and you can't sleep with 99.9% of the characters to begin with.

Just a dumb thing to whine about.

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Hexenherz posted...

You made a bad topic so you get what you give man.

You don't have to sleep with every character, and you can't sleep with 99.9% of the characters to begin with.

Just a dumb thing to whine about.

I didn't make the topic. You mean post

But anyway I think people are overreacting to what I said. No I never played modern AC games but I was thinking about in terms of bioware rpgs. Having a set sexuality for each npc is normal in most games

It doesn't matter if my info was wrong or not. The point stands. I think you shouldn't just make every npc possible to be gay. Like I said before that seems kinda offensive to me.

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

Odyssey and Valhalla allow you to be with all characters no matter your gender or theirs.

And even a goat!

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ubisoft has never written a good story, who cares?

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ultimate reaver posted...

ubisoft has never written a good story, who cares?

Wildlands was actually pretty good but https://www.keengamer.com/articles/news/bestseller- authors-partake-in-ghost-recon-wildlands-story/

also only example I can think of.

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Imagine complaining about historical accuracy in a fucking UBISOFT GAME...

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Zikten posted...

I think you shouldn't just make every npc possible to be gay. Like I said before that seems kinda offensive to me.

This is, literally, the definition of homophobia.

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Orchestrion posted...

This is, literally, the definition of homophobia.

...what dictionary are you using?

Orchestrion posted...

This is, literally, the definition of homophobia.

What? No I mean offensive to gay people. Its belittling to them. That anyone can be gay. It is fine to have gay people. I'm saying you shouldn't make everyone gay. That is what is offensive. Nobody chooses to be gay. You are born gay or born straight. Or bi.

I was enjoying Valhalla when I was going adventures with Norse Gods and fighting pagan witches, but when I realized there was multiple gay characters I had to stop. Just too unrealistic