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wackyteen
02/17/21 3:45:23 PM
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Means keeping federal regulators out of the states power grid". Is that a sacrifice Texans should be willing to make?


https://mobile.twitter.com/HoustonChron/status/1362079382806933512

Former Texas Governor Rick Perry, everybody, and Former President Donald John Trump's Energy Secretary

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/energy/article/Perry-says-Texans-wiling-to-suffer-blackouts-to-15956705.php

WASHINGTON - Former Texas governor Rick Perry suggests that going days without power is a sacrifice Texans should be willing to make if it means keeping federal regulators out of the states power grid.
In a blog posted on House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy's website, Perry is quoted responding to the claim that those watching on the left may see the situation in Texas as an opportunity to expand their top-down, radical proposals.

Texans would be without electricity for longer than three days to keep the federal government out of their business, Perry is quoted as saying. Try not to let whatever the crisis of the day is take your eye off of having a resilient grid that keeps America safe personally, economically, and strategically.
Texass power grid, run by the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or ERCOT, occupies a unique distinction in the United States in that it does not cross state lines and thus is not under the oversight of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.
That has long been a point of pride with Texas politicians who in the 2000s chose to deregulate the state's power market and allow power companies, not state regulators, determine when and how to build and maintain power plants.
That system has fallen under scrutiny in recent days as millions of Texans are left without power following an unusual cold snap. Following a near identical episode a decade ago, federal regulators warned Texas it needed to take steps to better insulate its power plants.

But there is little indication that happened, prompting criticism of ERCOT from Texas Republicans and Democrats alike.
Perry, former president Donald trump's energy secretary, however, blamed the rolling blackouts on the rise of wind and solar energy in Texas.

If wind and solar is where were headed, the last 48 hours ought to give everybody a real pause and go wait a minute, Perry said. We need to have a baseload. And the only way you can get a baseload in this country is [with] natural gas, coal, and nuclear.
That argument has been made by numerous conservatives in the midst of the blackouts. But it does not line up with early reports indicating the majority of the lost generation was natural gas plants not wind turbines, which actually performed better than grid regulators had anticipated, said Michael Webber an energy professor at the University of Texas.

I'll never forget Perry held a massive outdoor prayer session for rain

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Philoktetes
02/17/21 3:45:45 PM
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wackyteen posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/HoustonChron/status/1362079382806933512



>mobile link
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wackyteen
02/17/21 3:46:47 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
>mobile link
Sorry I'm not at home

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Philoktetes
02/17/21 3:47:16 PM
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it's still your duty to clean up URLs before you post them
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Antifar
02/17/21 3:48:26 PM
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It embeds all the same, dude

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The Trent
02/17/21 3:48:42 PM
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Dont mess with texas

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Antifar
02/17/21 3:50:16 PM
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LightHawKnight
02/17/21 3:52:46 PM
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And idiots vote for those idiots.

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hockeybub89
02/17/21 3:54:22 PM
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I'm starting to think they don't actually care about people.

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Were_Wyrm
02/17/21 3:55:01 PM
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Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

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MedeaLysistrata
02/17/21 3:55:40 PM
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The person who thinks that probably also thinks anyone who wasn't prepared deserves what they got...

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Giant_Aspirin
02/17/21 3:58:39 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
The person who thinks that probably also thinks anyone who wasn't prepared deserves what they got...

conservatism in a nutshell

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wackyteen
02/17/21 3:59:06 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
The person who thinks that probably also thinks anyone who wasn't prepared deserves what they got...
@TommyG663513

Saw you espousing things in this vein in another topic.

Do you agree with the Former governor?

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TommyG663513
02/17/21 4:28:10 PM
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wackyteen posted...
@TommyG663513

Saw you espousing things in this vein in another topic.

Do you agree with the Former governor?

No. Government is largely responsible for infrastructure failings on this scale and they need to be held accountable. The guy is a public servant and he's downplaying the reality of his job and what role he played in the current circumstance.

Problem is as well that Texas elects people like this and they often aren't held accountable. Maybe this won't be true this time. That one mayor was forced to resign and his wife lost her job.

There is also this reality where you can be dealt a bad hand, but you also didn't make a good play on it either. Government being a crap show doesn't forgive the amount of stupid driving mistakes. A lot of winter driving is really just drive slow. Figure out how fast your vehicle can travel safely. Start slow and work up from there. It's by no means a catch all, but the amount of people who don't do something so basic is a part of it.

It's just so surprising to me to see just how unbelievably ignorant so many Southern people are about winter weather. Like it makes sense, because they have no real reason to need to know anything about it for like 99.9999% of their lives. It's just a downright foreign concept to me.

I don't think that you can deny that a lot of the mess in Texas is due to citizens not acting in the most appropriate way. A lot of it is just straight up good faith ignorance. A lot of people get really hostile when you point this out lol

The amount of Southern people who sounded well uninformed about how snow works trying to tell me how it does is downright comical. Like I'm very much a person who has spent large chunks of his winter his entire life experiencing various major snowstorms.

I will put it this way. The only time I ever ended up in a ditch in the winter was when I was really young and stupid. It really didn't take much to realize I can drive much better and not take risks as I got older.

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hockeybub89
02/17/21 4:30:12 PM
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The Trent
02/17/21 4:35:39 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
I dont know what I'm talking about

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Cobalt_Wasps
02/17/21 4:38:04 PM
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time to start some fires id say

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The Trent
02/17/21 4:38:58 PM
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Cobalt_Wasps posted...
time to start some fires id say

i don't think texans are going to burn texas for this though, sorry
you'll have to burn your own community for good reasons

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CADE FOSTER
02/17/21 4:39:51 PM
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and they wont lose republican voters its these same idiots that wanted to save money by not winterizing the power grid also have no water
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The Trent
02/17/21 4:40:15 PM
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boom roasted

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wackyteen
02/17/21 4:44:55 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
and they wont lose republican voters its these same idiots that wanted to save money by not winterizing the power grid also have no water

The voters were probably promised cheaper savings by having a Texas only energy grid

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CADE FOSTER
02/17/21 4:48:14 PM
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now they might start charging 9 dollars per kwh so 450 a month on avg for a texas home owner these crooks need to be fired
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Cobalt_Wasps
02/17/21 4:49:18 PM
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The Trent posted...
i don't think texans are going to burn texas for this though, sorry
you'll have to burn your own community for good reasons

im perfectly warm, dont need fires in my hood
its a shame that those people are so neglected tho....they have to do something to get heated

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wackyteen
02/17/21 4:51:20 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
now they might start charging 9 dollars per kwh so 450 a month on avg for a texas home owner these crooks need to be fired
https://twitter.com/BlakeFox4News/status/1362148422669791238?s=19

lmfao

oh they were receiving threats thats why they were removed

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SPE
02/17/21 5:01:37 PM
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Thats a really bad take.

so if we continue that logic, going without water a few days a year is a good sacrifice to keep bad guvmint out too? What about going without some other basic services like that?

at what point is becoming like a third world country ok as long as you keep bad guvmint out?

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Boombam99
02/17/21 5:06:05 PM
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This is literally the second time in just a few months you can use the freezing to death to pwn the libz joke. (The other was the people getting stranded at Trump's rallies)
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CADE FOSTER
02/17/21 5:13:06 PM
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literally have to use pool water to flush my toilets this is Texas bullshit fuck this shit hole state
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The Trent
02/17/21 5:21:56 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
literally have to use pool water to flush my toilets this is Texas bullshit fuck this shit hole state

hahahahahhahaha

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CADE FOSTER
02/17/21 5:35:49 PM
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smh
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brestugo
02/17/21 5:38:56 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
That's really what he's saying.

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CruelBuffalo
02/17/21 5:40:00 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
it's still your duty to clean up URLs before you post them

Dude. Stop. Lol.
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CADE FOSTER
02/17/21 5:42:23 PM
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the lt gov was perfectly ok sacrificing the elderly so the texas economy stayed going
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Alucard188
02/17/21 5:42:55 PM
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Not content with letting old people die from covid, now they want everybody else to die, just to own the federal government. Should just grant their desires and let them secede.

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alphapipi
02/18/21 7:48:31 PM
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Ted Cruz snuck off to Mexico while Texans froze

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/18/politics/ted-cruz-cancun-( pause due to GFAQS Censor bypass alert)texas-disaster-electricity-power-water/index.html

copy and remove the Parentheses (and words within) for the article.
If someone can find a news report w/o a link that triggers Censor Bypass Alerts... Please provide a link

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Delirious_Beard
02/18/21 7:55:03 PM
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the party of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm2x6CVIXiE

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MacDaMurderer
02/18/21 7:58:41 PM
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See the problem is people waited on the government for everything. If the government wasnt so big people would be able to insulate their own house and pipes and winterize their own electric grid.



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Inferno Dive Dragoon
02/18/21 8:04:00 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
Should just grant their desires and let them secede.


I want this to happen just to watch them further implode, and I say that as a Texan that got the fuck out of that shithole just weeks after Trump got elected.

The only thing I'll miss is the Whataburger and sugar-cane Dr Pepper.
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