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Antifar 02/17/21 2:20:00 PM #1: |
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/17/facebook-will-ban-australian-users-from-sharing-or-viewing-news.html
Facebook on Wednesday announced that it will no longer allow publishers and users in Australia to share or view news articles in response to a new media law in the country. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 02/17/21 2:21:36 PM #2: |
This law sucks so much, imagine supporting Facebook but they are actually right in this situation.
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Questionmarktarius 02/17/21 2:21:48 PM #3: |
This isn't without precedent:
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LightHawKnight 02/17/21 2:21:54 PM #4: |
So Google users in Australia can only get news from one source?
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Antifar 02/17/21 2:23:08 PM #5: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
This law sucks so much, imagine supporting Facebook but they are actually right in this situation.In this case they've taken a stance more aggressively harmful than Google. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nothanks1 02/17/21 2:23:48 PM #6: |
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Questionmarktarius 02/17/21 2:23:48 PM #7: |
LightHawKnight posted...
So Google users in Australia can only get news from one source?Seems that way. something, something, road to hell, something, something. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/17/21 2:26:19 PM #8: |
That's stupid.
I can understand for Google - Google themselves are directly providing a service that relies on these news articles, published by Google themself. But in the case of Facebook, it's either the publishers themself, or individual users, who are sharing them - not Facebook themself. Why should Facebook have to pay for that? --- I was gonna write a funny sig, but then I got... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 02/17/21 2:29:56 PM #9: |
But isn't it free advertising when you share a link to a news article and then five of your friends click on it to read more?
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NinjaWarrior455 02/17/21 2:30:33 PM #10: |
Facebook sucks shit. More news at 11.
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Antifar 02/17/21 2:33:05 PM #11: |
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Hornezz 02/17/21 2:34:44 PM #12: |
Hexenherz posted...
But isn't it free advertising when you share a link to a news article and then five of your friends click on it to read more? If it's just a title with a link, yes. If it's sharing the full article not so much. Take this thread for example. I read the article without having to visit the CNBC site, so Gamefaqs is the one who made money off this content created by CNBC, while they get nothing. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 02/17/21 2:38:15 PM #13: |
Hornezz posted...
If it's just a title with a link, yes. If it's sharing the full article not so much.I see your point, but then how is a site like Facebook supposed to determine that content posted on their service was copied from a news outlet? And which news outlet? I see the intent of the law but it seems really ill conceived. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) | RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving/Crafting/RC https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnvoyOfTheLight 02/17/21 2:40:43 PM #14: |
Australian laws that even remotely concern media always seem to take the most stupid route possible.
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Giant_Aspirin 02/17/21 2:42:07 PM #15: |
im not understanding why the media companies are against users of social media sharing links to their sites? if the users are copypasta'ing content, i get it, but linking to their sites brings visitors / page views, yeah? what am i missing here?
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Southernfatman 02/17/21 2:43:25 PM #16: |
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Hornezz 02/17/21 2:44:28 PM #17: |
Hexenherz posted...
I see your point, but then how is a site like Facebook supposed to determine that content posted on their service was copied from a news outlet? And which news outlet?I guess it's technically possible by automatically scraping news outlets and comparing them to posts made. It's a huge task for Facebook to set something like that up, but ultimately not more difficult than the sort of content matching Youtube does for copyrighted music. I see the intent of the law but it seems really ill conceived.Yeah agreed --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 02/17/21 2:44:53 PM #18: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
im not understanding why the media companies are against users of social media sharing links to their sites? if the users are copypasta'ing content, i get it, but linking to their sites brings visitors / page views, yeah? what am i missing here?Most people just end up reading the headline and Facebook captures all that ad revenue --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 02/17/21 2:45:44 PM #19: |
Antifar posted...
Most people just end up reading the headline and Facebook captures all that ad revenue so that would apply to reddit, too, yeah? --- Playing: Yakuza 3; Hades; Dead Cells; You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/17/21 2:48:46 PM #20: |
Antifar posted...
Most people just end up reading the headline and Facebook captures all that ad revenueThere's a fairly simple workaround for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4FuOi9rvKw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TreyFlowers 02/17/21 3:57:26 PM #21: |
Who cares, the only people who still use Facebook are 50+
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LightHawKnight 02/17/21 3:57:27 PM #22: |
Antifar posted...
In this case they've taken a stance more aggressively harmful than Google. Isn't only showing news from one source just as harmful? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/17/21 4:06:25 PM #23: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Isn't only showing news from one source just as harmful?Oh look. Well-intentioned legislation meant to help the "little guy", has done nothing but enable a nigh-monopoly. That's never happened before!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 02/17/21 6:04:11 PM #24: |
Good. Governments have gotten more bold in trying to dictate how tech is supposed to work. Anyone complaining should just tell Australia "it's their company they can do what they want. if Australia doesn't like it they can build their own facebook."
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The_Creep_2020 02/17/21 6:07:54 PM #26: |
Meanwhile, in Australia, the Prime Minister was potentially complicit in covering up a rape that occurred in Parliament House.
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GiftedACIII 02/17/21 6:08:06 PM #27: |
I thought they weren't going through with this law.
The_Creep_2020 posted... Meanwhile, in Australia, the Prime Minister was potentially complicit in covering up a rape that occurred in Parliament House. uh, source? --- </topic> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 02/17/21 6:08:06 PM #28: |
Duckbear has been banned from Australia.
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MARKINGRAM22 02/17/21 6:11:46 PM #29: |
Australia seems to have a shitty combination of repressive 90s right wing and modern left wing policy's regarding speech, censorship and general control of the population.
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David1988 02/17/21 6:13:03 PM #30: |
s0nicfan posted...
Good. Governments have gotten more bold in trying to dictate how tech is supposed to work. Anyone complaining should just tell Australia "it's their company they can do what they want. if Australia doesn't like it they can build their own facebook." Basically --- Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Creep_2020 02/17/21 6:17:18 PM #31: |
https://7news.com.au/politics/malcom-turnbull-says-its-inconceivable-that-scott-morrison-wasnt-aware-of-brittany-higgins-rape-allegations-c-2180870
Hes also admitted that it took talking to his wife about it for him to take it seriously https://www.sbs.com.au/news/scott-morrison-criticised-for- invoking-his-daughters-in-response-to-brittany-higgins-rape-allegations Jenny and I spoke last night and she said to me, you have to think about this as a father. What would you want to happen if it were our girls?" he told reporters. --- Have I carved enough, my Lord? Child, you are a bone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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radical rhino 02/17/21 6:23:02 PM #32: |
LightHawKnight posted...
So Google users in Australia can only get news from one source?That one source being News Corp a.k.a. Fox News. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 02/17/21 6:25:26 PM #33: |
radical rhino posted...
That one source being News Corp a.k.a. Fox News. They could also go buy a newspaper or visit a news site directly, like before Google and Facebook. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jon1012 02/17/21 6:30:09 PM #34: |
TreyFlowers posted...
Who cares, the only people who still use Facebook are 50+ how old are you @TreyFlowers --- We are Borg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Creep_2020 02/17/21 6:33:18 PM #36: |
radical rhino posted...
That one source being News Corp a.k.a. Fox News.Yeah, $10 says this was entirely being pushed by news Corp --- Have I carved enough, my Lord? Child, you are a bone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TreyFlowers 02/17/21 7:40:16 PM #37: |
jon1012 posted...
how old are you @TreyFlowers 30 --- ...for it is better to be alone than in bad company. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 02/17/21 7:41:24 PM #38: |
Our government is so corrupt and incompetent. I hope this causes people to revolt but our population are fucking stupid
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The_Creep_2020 02/17/21 8:40:50 PM #39: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Our government is so corrupt and incompetent. I hope this causes people to revolt but our population are fucking stupid Revolt? But the crickets on. --- Have I carved enough, my Lord? Child, you are a bone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 02/17/21 8:42:19 PM #40: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Our government is so corrupt and incompetent. I hope this causes people to revolt but our population are fucking stupid So like most governments and people? Humans really sure dont like to think. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 02/17/21 8:44:20 PM #41: |
This sounds like an improved FB experience to me
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BilalPowell 02/17/21 8:45:30 PM #42: |
Never knew Australia wanted to be North Korea
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Rika_Furude 02/17/21 9:36:01 PM #43: |
LightHawKnight posted...
So like most governments and people? Humans really sure dont like to think.Our government is openly corrupt. They dont even try to hide it anymore because our population are beyond braindead --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 02/18/21 1:41:23 AM #44: |
Good
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Aki_Sora 02/18/21 1:54:57 AM #45: |
Man north korea will have new friends to talk and play
Australia will have dictator soon --- This is GameFAQs and stating an opinion is a declaration of WAR! https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561199023744394/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 02/18/21 8:04:15 AM #46: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Our government is openly corrupt. They dont even try to hide it anymore because our population are beyond braindead .... I mean look at Russia. China. Hell the republican party for the US. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Buu_88 02/18/21 8:35:14 AM #47: |
Ok so it happened and I fucking hate it
If it was just general news I wouldn't care but they've blocked all the gaming, movie, sport, music and art just in general pages as well --- Rehab is for quitters. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 02/18/21 1:47:46 PM #48: |
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-56109036
Human Rights Watch's Australia director said Facebook was censoring the flow of information in the country - calling it a "dangerous turn of events". So it's "censorship" if Facebook doesn't broadcast their news, but it's "exploitation" when they do because they're not being paid directly by Facebook. Sounds like a real racket to me. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 02/18/21 9:10:29 PM #49: |
s0nicfan posted...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-56109036 That guy gives Republicans a run for their money. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 02/20/21 11:36:10 PM #50: |
What I'm gathering ITT is how much you guys blindly hate Facebook LMAO.
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