Poll of the Day > University told to stop saying 'mother' and 'father' in gender-neutral drive

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AWinterJ
02/16/21 3:13:02 PM
#1:


Will you be using these terms?



  • Staff at a university in Australia have been asked to avoid saying 'mother' and instead use the words 'gestational parent'.
  • 'Father' is also being phased out, with the university asking workers to refer to dads as 'non-birthing parents'.
  • Some of the other changes include replacing 'breastfeeding' with 'chestfeeding' and 'mother's milk' with 'human or parent milk'.



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pedro45
02/16/21 3:18:05 PM
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I'm always torn on this stuff.
Labels don't matter to me much, same with gender roles and stuff. So, I think we should remove terms like mail man and keep it as mail carrier, but it shouldn't be offensive to anyone to be called a man or woman unless the person is trying to force a label onto someone they see as less than.
When I'm called a ma'am or something, I usually just play it off cause I like girls. It's almost a compliment and rarely meant offensively. Most people who try to label others are obvious asses and not worth my time.

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TheOkHornedRat
02/16/21 3:24:44 PM
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And that's the story of how Donald Trump won the election.

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Muscles
02/16/21 3:31:36 PM
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This is completely ridiculous

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VeeVees
02/16/21 3:32:37 PM
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LMFAO, what a fucking joke.

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Johnny Eagle
02/16/21 3:38:30 PM
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Muscles posted...
This is completely ridiculous


VeeVees posted...
LMFAO, what a fucking joke.


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LinkPizza
02/16/21 3:43:32 PM
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No. I wont be using those terms...
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wwinterj25
02/16/21 3:49:00 PM
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I'll use the terms I've always known. I'd say it's impossible for me to be that woke.

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Yellow
02/16/21 3:58:18 PM
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I always thought colleges were super woke to try to keep kids happy while squeezing every cent out of them. At least in the US.

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Jen0125
02/16/21 3:59:39 PM
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Who cares

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ReturnOfFa
02/16/21 3:59:47 PM
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Thanks for the links.

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Zeus
02/16/21 4:00:15 PM
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It's weird how far past Poe's Law society has gone. Some of these would have been considered too outlandish or silly even by the standards of the Onion in the 2000s.

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Veedrock-
02/16/21 4:00:42 PM
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This is insensitive as fuck to adoptive parents.

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Kanatteru
02/16/21 4:01:54 PM
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i like how there isn't even a link and you guys just got mad anyway

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ArvTheGreat
02/16/21 4:02:50 PM
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Arv told his kid to call him none birthing parent and she said DAD STFU AND MAKE ME CEREAL

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MeteoricBurst
02/16/21 4:03:17 PM
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Zeus posted...
It's weird how far past Poe's Law society has gone. Some of these would have been considered too outlandish or silly even by the standards of the Onion in the 2000s.

You can say that about tons of things that happened these last few years not just the ultra woke tripe like this. The Trump administration nearly put satirists out of business and now the Q wackjobs like that Marjorie broad ready to finish the job.

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Yellow
02/16/21 4:09:14 PM
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Kanatteru posted...
i like how there isn't even a link and you guys just got mad anyway
I'm allowed to get mad if I keep it into perspective and don't go and vote for George Bush #3 because silly reasons

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Firewerx
02/16/21 4:14:42 PM
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A richly sourced article indeed.

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Ogurisama
02/16/21 4:16:19 PM
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Yellow
02/16/21 4:18:21 PM
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Firewerx posted...
A richly sourced article indeed.
The 3 kinds of citation purists;

1) You must cite the link in your post
2) The link must be on Google and not from the onion
3) If it makes me feel good it must be true I can barely read anyway

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MeteoricBurst
02/16/21 4:25:07 PM
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Yellow posted...
The 3 kinds of citation purists;

1) You must cite the link in your post
2) The link must be on Google and not from the onion
3) If it makes me feel good it must be true I can barely read anyway

The thing about it is that this is even believable in the first place. Thats the problem. Years ago this would have been dismissed as a gimmick, even if there was a link. Now people can troll with it an no one is sure whether they serious or not. That said this kind of "real life satire" is still much better than the other kind which I mentioned earlier.

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OrangeDawn
02/16/21 4:28:42 PM
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Conservative outrage culture is so fucking funny

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AWinterJ
02/16/21 4:28:57 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Who cares
The University it seems.

ReturnOfFa posted...
Thanks for the links.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/university-staff-told-stop-saying-23507643

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Kanatteru
02/16/21 4:44:30 PM
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AWinterJ posted...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/university-staff-told-stop-saying-23507643

looks like it's not official university policy and they're not suggesting to replace the terms entirely, just use them alongside the existing terms

this is a nothingburger

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Raddest_Chad
02/16/21 4:45:24 PM
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The one that gets me is that university in the UK wanting to ban terms like "breastfeeding". Literally every human being has what are classified as breasts. Not functional mammary glands, perhaps, but breasts? Yes. Everyone can get breast cancer because they have breast tissue. Dumbasses gonna dumbass though.
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Yellow
02/16/21 8:32:23 PM
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Kanatteru posted...
looks like it's not official university policy and they're not suggesting to replace the terms entirely, just use them alongside the existing terms

this is a nothingburger
Yeah it only exists to get clicks

Pretty sad how destructive this stuff really is.

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Zareth
02/16/21 8:45:40 PM
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I don't believe you.

This is one of those things conservatives make up to make themselves angry for no reason.

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Veedrock-
02/16/21 8:59:36 PM
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Zareth posted...
Fake news


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AWinterJ
02/16/21 11:17:32 PM
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I mean it's not like I wrote the article.

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BlackScythe0
02/16/21 11:29:31 PM
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I don't even understand the concept of nonsense like this.
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Lokarin
02/16/21 11:33:11 PM
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Doesn't this offend people who identify as fathers or mothers?

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Zeus
02/18/21 2:08:05 PM
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Kanatteru posted...
i like how there isn't even a link and you guys just got mad anyway

Hence my talk of Poe's Law.

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adjl
02/18/21 2:42:27 PM
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Zeus posted...
Hence my talk of Poe's Law.

That has nothing to do with Poe's Law.

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DragonClaw01
02/18/21 2:49:43 PM
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So are they going to change alma matter to nourishing chest feeder?

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Gaawa_chan
02/18/21 3:24:18 PM
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Just... call them parents/guardians, then?

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PunishedOni
02/23/21 12:27:47 PM
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fake news lol
MeteoricBurst posted...
The thing about it is that this is even believable in the first place. Thats the problem.


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MeteoricBurst
02/23/21 12:41:04 PM
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PunishedOni posted...
fake news lol

''when i fall for obvious bait, its actually society's fault''

I know who TC is so I didn't fall for anything. But I don't know who you are. I have my suspicion though. Yes you are not totally an alt "new user"

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PunishedOni
02/23/21 12:44:02 PM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
Yes you are not totally an alt "new user"

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LinkPizza
02/23/21 1:00:40 PM
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Because of the name, Im guessing PunishedOni used to be OniRonin since that account is banned...
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GunslingerGunsl
02/23/21 1:03:15 PM
#41:


This doesn't even make sense. We already have a gender-neutral term to use if needed. "Parent."
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LinkPizza
02/23/21 1:04:25 PM
#42:


GunslingerGunsl posted...
This doesn't even make sense. We already have a gender-neutral term to use if needed. "Parent."

This is true. But I guess that want a way to talk about a certain parent... So they can distinguish the 2+...
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FatalAccident
02/23/21 1:58:50 PM
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Its stupid, heres a radical idea, if theyre so concerned just call them a parent

edit: oh my bad somebody already came in with that.

its still stupid lol

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GunslingerGunsl
02/23/21 2:05:06 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
This is true. But I guess that want a way to talk about a certain parent... So they can distinguish the 2+...
If they want to talk specifically about a parent, they could just use their name. I think it's very similar to our pronouns of He/Her/They. There are only three categories there but they work fine just like that and we don't have to create anymore. I feel father/mother/parent should work the same.

edit: I have trouble imagining a scenario where someone gets asked, "Are you this child's parent?" and then that person gets offended by gender insensitivity.
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LinkPizza
02/23/21 2:27:39 PM
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Oh. I think its dumb, too. I just guessing at what they want. Personally, I still call my mom and dad mom and dad. They seem fine with it...
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GunslingerGunsl
02/23/21 2:38:29 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Oh. I think its dumb, too. I just guessing at what they want. Personally, I still call my mom and dad mom and dad. They seem fine with it...
I'm going to start calling my mom and dad, parent 1 and parent 2. lol
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sodium-chloride
02/23/21 2:59:48 PM
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Usually I don't care about dumb stuff like this but lol this is pretty fucking dumb
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LinkPizza
02/23/21 3:01:11 PM
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GunslingerGunsl posted...
I'm going to start calling my mom and dad, parent 1 and parent 2. lol

Haha. You could also do Parent 1 and Parent A, so theyre both first.
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GunslingerGunsl
02/23/21 3:07:24 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Haha. You could also do Parent 1 and Parent A, so they can both be first...
That's funny. I was just wondering how I would choose which one would be parent 1.
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AWinterJ
02/23/21 4:40:09 PM
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I'm happy to see Poll of the Day isn't as woke as this.

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grimhilde00
02/23/21 9:01:41 PM
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Parent is a word. Who cares.

Only difference that matters is if someone is recovering physically from labor or surgery.

Parents should all get paternal leave. Extra time for medical recovery.

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