Current Events > Former DNC head agrees. Diverse states need to move ahead of Iowa and NH.

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CruelBuffalo 02/14/21 1:04:58 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/wpjenna/status/1361010916012228609 Nevada, Georgia, and North Carolina should be the first 3 primaries. No caucuses. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:950630904] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/wpjenna/status/1361010916012228609 Nevada, Georgia, and North Carolina should be the first 3 primaries. No caucuses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 02/14/21 1:06:40 PM #2:	I don't think two southern states should be first --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:950630949] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>I don't think two southern states should be first </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 02/14/21 1:07:15 PM #3:	Balrog0 posted... I don't think two southern states should be first North Carolina is southern in quotes, but could change North Carolina to Maryland. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:950630969] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think two southern states should be first </quote> North Carolina is southern in quotes, but could change North Carolina to Maryland.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 02/14/21 1:08:15 PM #4:	Bernie had a commanding lead in the first few primaries, and Biden still crushed him after South Carolina. What would changing the state order have done? Just have Biden be the front runner from the start? --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:950631005] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Bernie had a commanding lead in the first few primaries, and Biden still crushed him after South Carolina. What would changing the state order have done? Just have Biden be the front runner from the start? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 02/14/21 1:10:12 PM #5:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Bernie had a commanding lead in the first few primaries, and Biden still crushed him after South Carolina. What would changing the state order have done? Just have Biden be the front runner from the start? He didnt have a commanding lead. He ran neck and neck with Pete in Iowa, and also had a close race in his neighboring state. The only impressive race he ran was Nevada. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:950631068] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>AngelsNAirwav3s posted...</cite> <quote>Bernie had a commanding lead in the first few primaries, and Biden still crushed him after South Carolina. What would changing the state order have done? Just have Biden be the front runner from the start? </quote> He didnt have a commanding lead. He ran neck and neck with Pete in Iowa, and also had a close race in his neighboring state. The only impressive race he ran was Nevada.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 02/14/21 1:10:55 PM #6:	I mean I wouldn't say I've spent a ton of time in the area but I've gone from dc to Atlanta and it gets real southern way before you hit north Carolina lol I still would ideally like to see it rotate --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:950631085] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>I mean I wouldn't say I've spent a ton of time in the area but I've gone from dc to Atlanta and it gets real southern way before you hit north Carolina lol I still would ideally like to see it rotate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 02/14/21 1:12:20 PM #7:	1. Georgia 2. Colorado 3. Nevada 4. Maryland There. Would like to add Hawaii but travel time would be terrible and my list above is already hard and terrible. We are only gonna have wealthy fundraising candidates get into the race even with my suggestion unless we break it down to be smaller. Nevada and Maryland? <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:950631134] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>1. Georgia 2. Colorado 3. Nevada 4. Maryland There. Would like to add Hawaii but travel time would be terrible and my list above is already hard and terrible. We are only gonna have wealthy fundraising candidates get into the race even with my suggestion unless we break it down to be smaller. Nevada and Maryland?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bobby_Lee 02/14/21 1:13:02 PM #8:	As an Asian, I'm still voting for Trump tho. <cite>Bobby_Lee posted [p:950631153] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>As an Asian, I'm still voting for Trump tho.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 02/14/21 1:14:33 PM #9:	Bobby_Lee posted... As an Asian, I'm still voting for Trump tho. Lol who is this? 2pacevellis alt? <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:950631208] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Bobby_Lee posted...</cite> <quote>As an Asian, I'm still voting for Trump tho.</quote> Lol who is this? 2pacevellis alt?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bobby_Lee 02/14/21 1:15:11 PM #10:	CruelBuffalo posted... Lol who is this? 2pacevellis alt? I don't like like 99% of rap, so no. <cite>Bobby_Lee posted [p:950631226] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote> Lol who is this? 2pacevellis alt?</quote> I don't like like 99% of rap, so no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 02/14/21 1:15:17 PM #11:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Bernie had a commanding lead in the first few primaries, and Biden still crushed him after South Carolina. What would changing the state order have done? Just have Biden be the front runner from the start? Not really: he won Iowa and New Hampshire narrowly. His biggest victory by far was in Nevada, a margin sufficiently threatening that the party decided he needed to be stopped. It's almost impossible to model how the order would affect things(other than that he still wins huge in Nevada), because momentum is absolutely a vital factor in primaries. People like to vote for winners, or just don't vote at all if they perceive their favored candidate as losing by the time their state comes up. My own suggestions: 1) Caucuses are dumb and bad and should be abolished yesterday 2) Having fixed states going first is dumb and bad, even if they're more diverse than Iowa and New Hampshire. Rotate them, and try to get a representative sample of the voting public between the first 3-4. 3) Based on the fact that Bernie won California quite handily and still lost overall, you don't necessarily need to hold the big states back. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:950631233] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>AngelsNAirwav3s posted... </cite> <quote>Bernie had a commanding lead in the first few primaries, and Biden still crushed him after South Carolina. What would changing the state order have done? Just have Biden be the front runner from the start?</quote>Not really: he won Iowa and New Hampshire narrowly. His biggest victory by far was in Nevada, a margin sufficiently threatening that the party decided he needed to be stopped. It's almost impossible to model how the order would affect things(other than that he still wins huge in Nevada), because momentum is absolutely a vital factor in primaries. People like to vote for winners, or just don't vote at all if they perceive their favored candidate as losing by the time their state comes up. My own suggestions: 1) Caucuses are dumb and bad and should be abolished yesterday 2) Having fixed states going first is dumb and bad, even if they're more diverse than Iowa and New Hampshire. Rotate them, and try to get a representative sample of the voting public between the first 3-4. 3) Based on the fact that Bernie won California quite handily and still lost overall, you don't necessarily need to hold the big states back. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 02/14/21 1:15:56 PM #12:	How about all the states have their primaries at the same time --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:950631253] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>How about all the states have their primaries at the same time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/14/21 1:17:17 PM #13:	I get the impulse here, and it's a change for the better. But if everyone agrees there's a distorting effect due to which states go first, shouldn't we be holding every state's primary on the same day, rather than just distorting it in a new direction? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:950631297] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>I get the impulse here, and it's a change for the better. But if everyone agrees there's a distorting effect due to which states go first, shouldn't we be holding every state's primary on the same day, rather than just distorting it in a new direction? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 02/14/21 1:17:40 PM #14:	iPhone_7 posted... How about all the states have their primaries at the same time That. Give everyone an equal say. As quickly as candidates drop out, late primaries basically get no say, often down to 2 candidates. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:950631306] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted... </cite> <quote>How about all the states have their primaries at the same time</quote> That. Give everyone an equal say. As quickly as candidates drop out, late primaries basically get no say, often down to 2 candidates. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 02/14/21 1:17:48 PM #15:	iPhone_7 posted... How about all the states have their primaries at the same time That would probably be even more "the party decides" than it is now. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:950631311] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted... </cite> <quote>How about all the states have their primaries at the same time</quote>That would probably be even more "the party decides" than it is now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 02/14/21 1:18:11 PM #16:	All primaries should be on the same day. --- #FeelTheBern https://imgur.com/q5z4CUu https://imgur.com/6B9oFXh https://imgur.com/sy42Dlf <cite>lilORANG posted [p:950631322] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>All primaries should be on the same day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonJoe 02/14/21 1:19:32 PM #17:	lilORANG posted... All primaries should be on the same day. --- I shouldnt be approaching 30 and preparing for life as a climate refugee. <cite>CommonJoe posted [p:950631360] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>lilORANG posted... </cite> <quote>All primaries should be on the same day.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 02/14/21 1:19:47 PM #18:	lilORANG posted... All primaries should be on the same day. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:950631375] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>lilORANG posted... </cite> <quote>All primaries should be on the same day.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 02/14/21 1:21:11 PM #19:	ElatedVenusaur posted... That would probably be even more "the party decides" than it is now. oh for **s sake --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:950631427] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>That would probably be even more "the party decides" than it is now.</quote> oh for **s sake </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 02/14/21 1:21:54 PM #20:	You would probably need a lot of runoffs or to accept a really low overall % threshold for a national primary to work I would think. Or, alternatively, you let the delegates hash it out when they get to the convention --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:950631454] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>You would probably need a lot of runoffs or to accept a really low overall % threshold for a national primary to work I would think. Or, alternatively, you let the delegates hash it out when they get to the convention </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 02/14/21 1:24:13 PM #21:	I mean you already have delegates pledged to irrelevant candidates from early states. You would see a lot more if you did every primary at once. Even the way it is, one reason the party elites convinced everyone to back Biden was the idea that a contested convention would be bad pr even if the person with the most delegates still ended up winning --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:950631520] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>I mean you already have delegates pledged to irrelevant candidates from early states. You would see a lot more if you did every primary at once. Even the way it is, one reason the party elites convinced everyone to back Biden was the idea that a contested convention would be bad pr even if the person with the most delegates still ended up winning </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 02/14/21 1:25:20 PM #22:	ElatedVenusaur posted... That would probably be even more "the party decides" than it is now. How so? Bernie lost because the DNC was able to realize the kind of threat he was and had amy and pete drop out just for biden can compete. Bernie still would have won if warren dropped out to help bernie. Having it all at once also gives each state a fair chance to vote for their candidate. Since like someone said the last states only get to vote on the people that are left. Would also help candidates with fundraising since they will have more money to spend on the presidency not just being the front runner for the party. --- CPU i5 10600k, CPUC evga CLC 280x140, RAM tridentz 3200mhz cl14 32gb, MOBO Asus Rog strix e-gaming, GPU evga fc3 rtx 3070, PSU evga 850w G2, Samsung G7 32in. <cite>yutterh posted [p:950631561] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>That would probably be even more "the party decides" than it is now.</quote> How so? Bernie lost because the DNC was able to realize the kind of threat he was and had amy and pete drop out just for biden can compete. Bernie still would have won if warren dropped out to help bernie. Having it all at once also gives each state a fair chance to vote for their candidate. Since like someone said the last states only get to vote on the people that are left. Would also help candidates with fundraising since they will have more money to spend on the presidency not just being the front runner for the party. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 02/14/21 1:26:21 PM #23:	Bobby_Lee posted... As an Asian, I'm still voting for Trump tho. Because he ... cut the amount of available immigration slots? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:950631599] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Bobby_Lee posted... </cite> <quote>As an Asian, I'm still voting for Trump tho.</quote>Because he ... cut the amount of available immigration slots? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bobby_Lee 02/14/21 1:28:48 PM #24:	Ruvan22 posted... Because he ... cut the amount of available immigration slots? I could right a book on why, but here's one big reason: https://youtu.be/-jIhaQWL-_Q <cite>Bobby_Lee posted [p:950631669] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote> Because he ... cut the amount of available immigration slots? </quote> I could right a book on why, but here's one big reason: https://youtu.be/-jIhaQWL-_Q</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/14/21 1:29:58 PM #25:	ElatedVenusaur posted... because momentum is absolutely a vital factor in primaries Is it? Or is it the hot hand of elections? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:950631698] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>because momentum is absolutely a vital factor in primaries</quote> Is it? Or is it the hot hand of elections? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 02/14/21 1:30:09 PM #26:	yutterh posted... How so? Bernie lost because the DNC was able to realize the kind of threat he was and had amy and pete drop out just for biden can compete. Bernie still would have won if warren dropped out to help bernie. Having it all at once also gives each state a fair chance to vote for their candidate. Since like someone said the last states only get to vote on the people that are left. Would also help candidates with fundraising since they will have more money to spend on the presidency not just being the front runner for the party. I suppose you're right. It probably would have gotten us Hillary in 2008, which probably would have kicked the Obama grenade further down the road though... <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:950631702] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>yutterh posted... </cite> <quote>How so? Bernie lost because the DNC was able to realize the kind of threat he was and had amy and pete drop out just for biden can compete. Bernie still would have won if warren dropped out to help bernie. Having it all at once also gives each state a fair chance to vote for their candidate. Since like someone said the last states only get to vote on the people that are left. Would also help candidates with fundraising since they will have more money to spend on the presidency not just being the front runner for the party.</quote>I suppose you're right. It probably would have gotten us Hillary in 2008, which probably would have kicked the Obama grenade further down the road though... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 02/14/21 1:31:57 PM #28:	Lol well keep in mind, old fashioned politicking is why bloomberg didn't jump in until after Biden was obviously limping. Dude would kill for a national primary --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:950631749] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Lol well keep in mind, old fashioned politicking is why bloomberg didn't jump in until after Biden was obviously limping. Dude would kill for a national primary </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 02/14/21 1:36:12 PM #29:	shockthemonkey posted... This makes the most sense to me. Well, ranked choice 1 day primaries make the most sense to me but in terms of realistic changes People keep talking about ranked choice voting. What exactly is it? --- CPU i5 10600k, CPUC evga CLC 280x140, RAM tridentz 3200mhz cl14 32gb, MOBO Asus Rog strix e-gaming, GPU evga fc3 rtx 3070, PSU evga 850w G2, Samsung G7 32in. <cite>yutterh posted [p:950631884] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>This makes the most sense to me. Well, ranked choice 1 day primaries make the most sense to me but in terms of realistic changes</quote> People keep talking about ranked choice voting. What exactly is it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JBaLLEN66 02/14/21 1:37:37 PM #30:	Balrog0 posted... I don't think two southern states should be first the south is more diverse than your corn bred Iowa Midwestern Arctic hell hole lol --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdR2Iktffaw The day Capitalism was humiliated :) <cite>JBaLLEN66 posted [p:950631930] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think two southern states should be first</quote> the south is more diverse than your corn bred Iowa Midwestern Arctic hell hole lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 02/14/21 1:39:36 PM #31:	I live in the south. Regional diversity is also important, to the extent you want to mirror the electorate --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:950631995] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>I live in the south. Regional diversity is also important, to the extent you want to mirror the electorate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yutterh 02/14/21 1:46:18 PM #33:	shockthemonkey posted... Instead of voting for 1 person, you rank all the choices. If your first choice isnt viable then your second choice gets your vote, if theyre not viable then it goes to your third, etc. Gotchas, that's pretty interesting. --- CPU i5 10600k, CPUC evga CLC 280x140, RAM tridentz 3200mhz cl14 32gb, MOBO Asus Rog strix e-gaming, GPU evga fc3 rtx 3070, PSU evga 850w G2, Samsung G7 32in. <cite>yutterh posted [p:950632201] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Instead of voting for 1 person, you rank all the choices. If your first choice isnt viable then your second choice gets your vote, if theyre not viable then it goes to your third, etc.</quote> Gotchas, that's pretty interesting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 02/14/21 4:02:00 PM #34:	Bobby_Lee posted... I could right a book on why, but here's one big reason: https://youtu.be/-jIhaQWL-_Q If it takes you ten minutes to make your argument there's a bit of a problem. What is the point he makes? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:950636394] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Bobby_Lee posted... </cite> <quote>I could right a book on why, but here's one big reason: https://youtu.be/-jIhaQWL-_Q</quote>If it takes you ten minutes to make your argument there's a bit of a problem. What is the point he makes? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 02/14/21 4:11:36 PM #35:	It might of changed by now, but a few years ago Illinois was THE most representive state in the entire union (it is the most similar to the overall US population). Keeping the current system to skew towards whites or changing it to skew towards minorities are both terrible ideas. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:950636699] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>It might of changed by now, but a few years ago Illinois was THE most representive state in the entire union (it is the most similar to the overall US population). Keeping the current system to skew towards whites or changing it to skew towards minorities are both terrible ideas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook20 02/14/21 4:11:43 PM #36:	Iowa and New Hampshire are pretty good states to go first, they're politically moderate and often swing states. But there's no reason to have staggered primaries. Do them all at once and use STV or something similar. --- http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png <cite>TomNook20 posted [p:950636703] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Iowa and New Hampshire are pretty good states to go first, they're politically moderate and often swing states. But there's no reason to have staggered primaries. Do them all at once and use STV or something similar. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 02/14/21 4:23:03 PM #38:	I could see them wanting deep red states to have an even larger role in deciding who the Dem nominee is. Could rake in a lot of funding behind that idea. It's more representative of the ideology of a Biden Democratic Party, as Republicans are good and our friends which should be in power even when they lose. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:950637033] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>I could see them wanting deep red states to have an even larger role in deciding who the Dem nominee is. Could rake in a lot of funding behind that idea. It's more representative of the ideology of a Biden Democratic Party, as Republicans are good and our friends which should be in power even when they lose. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/14/21 4:25:10 PM #39:	Also, gotta add: lotta Democrats come to good ideas the moment they don't have the power to implement them. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:950637086] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Also, gotta add: lotta Democrats come to good ideas the moment they don't have the power to implement them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/14/21 4:26:24 PM #40:	CruelBuffalo posted... 1. Georgia 2. Colorado 3. Nevada 4. Maryland There. Would like to add Hawaii but travel time would be terrible and my list above is already hard and terrible. We are only gonna have wealthy fundraising candidates get into the race even with my suggestion unless we break it down to be smaller. Nevada and Maryland? IMO. Georgia Florida (for proximity convenience) Arizona Colorado These 4 states combined will give you. Very high black population Very high homosexual population Large Latino groups with very diverse origins Large independent voter block Rural area that is also kind of Democrat friendly Large urban areas --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:950637117] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>CruelBuffalo posted... </cite> <quote>1. Georgia 2. Colorado 3. Nevada 4. Maryland There. Would like to add Hawaii but travel time would be terrible and my list above is already hard and terrible. We are only gonna have wealthy fundraising candidates get into the race even with my suggestion unless we break it down to be smaller. Nevada and Maryland?</quote> IMO. Georgia Florida (for proximity convenience) Arizona Colorado These 4 states combined will give you. Very high black population Very high homosexual population Large Latino groups with very diverse origins Large independent voter block Rural area that is also kind of Democrat friendly Large urban areas</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 02/14/21 4:29:48 PM #41:	"I have so many reasons to vote for Trump, but I couldn't possibly give you all of them, so I'll just link to Joe Rogan" --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:950637225] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>"I have so many reasons to vote for Trump, but I couldn't possibly give you all of them, so I'll just link to Joe Rogan" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_Garcia7 02/14/21 4:35:06 PM #42:	The type of freaks that vote in primaries aren't diverse or representative of anything but the managerial class and boomers that post daily nonsensical walls of text about politics on FB. <cite>Jeff_Garcia7 posted [p:950637391] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>The type of freaks that vote in primaries aren't diverse or representative of anything but the managerial class and boomers that post daily nonsensical walls of text about politics on FB. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 02/14/21 4:40:00 PM #43:	Wow am I staring at an actual "I'm too cool to vote in primaries" post? --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:950637550] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Wow am I staring at an actual "I'm too cool to vote in primaries" post? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/14/21 4:41:53 PM #44:	Jeff_Garcia7 posted... The type of freaks that vote in primaries aren't diverse or representative of anything but the managerial class and boomers that post daily nonsensical walls of text about politics on FB. Maybe for caucuses. Primary elections have a diverse turnout. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:950637600] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Jeff_Garcia7 posted... </cite> <quote>The type of freaks that vote in primaries aren't diverse or representative of anything but the managerial class and boomers that post daily nonsensical walls of text about politics on FB.</quote>Maybe for caucuses. Primary elections have a diverse turnout. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 02/14/21 4:42:52 PM #45:	Jeff_Garcia7 posted... The type of freaks that vote in primaries aren't diverse or representative of anything but the managerial class and boomers that post daily nonsensical walls of text about politics on FB. Ummm....I'm pretty sure that this might be the most ridiculous thing posted today on CE. Which is pretty fucking impressive pal. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:950637634] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Jeff_Garcia7 posted... </cite> <quote>The type of freaks that vote in primaries aren't diverse or representative of anything but the managerial class and boomers that post daily nonsensical walls of text about politics on FB.</quote>Ummm....I'm pretty sure that this might be the most ridiculous thing posted today on CE. Which is pretty fucking impressive pal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 02/14/21 4:47:35 PM #46:	Don't forget that not an hour ago we had a guy have a manic episode and rage for a good thirty or forty posts against no one in particular. That was today's metric of "most ridiculous". --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:950637770] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Don't forget that not an hour ago we had a guy have a manic episode and rage for a good thirty or forty posts against no one in particular. That was today's metric of "most ridiculous". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/14/21 4:52:34 PM #47:	CyricZ posted... Don't forget that not an hour ago we had a guy have a manic episode and rage for a good thirty or forty posts against no one in particular. That was today's metric of "most ridiculous". That topic was like --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:950637919] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Don't forget that not an hour ago we had a guy have a manic episode and rage for a good thirty or forty posts against no one in particular. That was today's metric of "most ridiculous".</quote>That topic was like </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 02/14/21 4:53:02 PM #48:	CyricZ posted... Don't forget that not an hour ago we had a guy have a manic episode and rage for a good thirty or forty posts against no one in particular. That was today's metric of "most ridiculous". Lol I must have missed that one. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:950637936] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Don't forget that not an hour ago we had a guy have a manic episode and rage for a good thirty or forty posts against no one in particular. That was today's metric of "most ridiculous".</quote>Lol I must have missed that one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/14/21 4:53:32 PM #49:	He's exaggerating somewhat but also primary voters do tend to be more engaged than the general public, and a small fraction of registered voters. Consider South Carolina, which in the general election had 72 percent turnout. Biden received 1,091,000 votes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_South_Carolina?wprov=sfla1 Less than 600k voted in that state's Democratic primary, about half of Biden's eventual total in the general. And that was a record! https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/1/21159319/south-carolina-2020-democratic-primary-turnout-record --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:950637944] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>He's exaggerating somewhat but also primary voters do tend to be more engaged than the general public, and a small fraction of registered voters. Consider South Carolina, which in the general election had 72 percent turnout. Biden received 1,091,000 votes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_South_Carolina?wprov=sfla1 Less than 600k voted in that state's Democratic primary, about half of Biden's eventual total in the general. And that was a record! https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/1/21159319/south-carolina-2020-democratic-primary-turnout-record </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_Garcia7 02/14/21 6:11:12 PM #50:	ScazarMeltex posted... Ummm....I'm pretty sure that this might be the most ridiculous thing posted today on CE. Which is pretty fucking impressive pal. And yet I was right. Primaries have pathetic turnout and display an extreme over-representation of the managerial class and cable news obsessed boomers. Once you start following politics more closely you'll understand what I said is well understood and not even controversial. <cite>Jeff_Garcia7 posted [p:950640366] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>Ummm....I'm pretty sure that this might be the most ridiculous thing posted today on CE. Which is pretty fucking impressive pal.</quote>And yet I was right. Primaries have pathetic turnout and display an extreme over-representation of the managerial class and cable news obsessed boomers. Once you start following politics more closely you'll understand what I said is well understood and not even controversial. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 02/14/21 6:22:10 PM #51:	Tyranthraxus posted... IMO. 1. Georgia 2. Florida (for proximity convenience) 3. Arizona 4. Colorado These 4 states combined will give you. * Very high black population * Very high homosexual population * Large Latino groups with very diverse origins * Large independent voter block * Rural area that is also kind of Democrat friendly * Large urban areas Florida is the 3rd biggest state. Its too expensive to be the start. Georgia was already sorta pushing it in size. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:950640735] in Former DNC... [t:79294910]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> IMO. 1. Georgia 2. Florida (for proximity convenience) 3. Arizona 4. Colorado These 4 states combined will give you. * Very high black population * Very high homosexual population * Large Latino groups with very diverse origins * Large independent voter block * Rural area that is also kind of Democrat friendly * Large urban areas </quote> Florida is the 3rd biggest state. Its too expensive to be the start. Georgia was already sorta pushing it in size.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Former DNC head agrees. Diverse states need to move ahead of Iowa and NH.