Current Events > Speedrunner uses hot plate on Famicom to glitch his DQ3 save to lvl 99 >_>

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NeonOctopus
02/05/21 7:53:21 AM
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https://gamerant.com/dragon-quest-speedrunner-hot-plate-level-99-glitch/

tl;dr: increasing the temp of the Dragon Quest 3 cartridge messes up the programming and lets you start a file with a lvl 99 character, allowing ridiculously fast speed runs >_>

Speed runners are fucking crazy



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spikethedevil
02/05/21 7:56:10 AM
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Surely that perma fucks up your cartridge?

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Ryuko_Chan
02/05/21 7:58:00 AM
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the hell is the point of this lol


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Veggeta X
02/05/21 7:59:17 AM
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Taking it to the extreme.

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harley2280
02/05/21 8:19:27 AM
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All this is really going to do is drive up the price of the game.
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The Trent
02/05/21 8:21:16 AM
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at some point don't you need to ask yourself if this is worth it

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Zikten
02/05/21 8:26:42 AM
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I still say this is cheating.
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The Trent
02/05/21 8:28:04 AM
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i mean if this isn't cheating then what the fuck are the rules

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Veggeta X
02/05/21 8:29:51 AM
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I believe a speedrunning community will make that call.

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gunplagirl
02/05/21 8:33:55 AM
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It's like cartridge tilting imo but the community for the game gets to make that call in the end. It won't damage the cartridge or system if done properly, the heat is still well within the range of what it can handle.


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The Trent
02/05/21 8:36:09 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
I believe a speedrunning community will make that call.

if i can't butt into a community where i have absolutely no place and tell them what they are doing is wrong then what the fuck is it all for

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KiwiTerraRizing
02/05/21 8:45:35 AM
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Imma start cooking all my games

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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/05/21 8:51:59 AM
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I just made a delicious Mario 64 reduction with a nice parsley garnish.

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Tenlaar
02/05/21 9:06:42 AM
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What the hell? I really want a technical explanation of how specific bits of code are changed at specific temperatures.
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Turbam
02/05/21 9:09:07 AM
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Did he make an all female party?

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Autocraticus
02/05/21 9:10:52 AM
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Can we make this a donation incentive at the next GDQ
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Zanzenburger
02/05/21 9:12:45 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
What the hell? I really want a technical explanation of how specific bits of code are changed at specific temperatures.
This

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AlisLandale
02/05/21 9:15:31 AM
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its cool af, but if youre using extra hardware I dont see the difference between a third party hacking device and a third party hot plate >_>

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xXfireglzXx
02/05/21 9:29:51 AM
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Zikten posted...
I still say this is cheating.

It will just be labeled "Hot plate %" and they'll move on.

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Musourenka
02/05/21 9:33:48 AM
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Well dang, that's one way to break the level cap.

Still seems weird though. Level cap I thought was 50. In a situation like that, what would make the level go to 99 and not something like FF (255)?

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SkittyOnWailord
02/05/21 9:49:36 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
What the hell? I really want a technical explanation of how specific bits of code are changed at specific temperatures.

I would guess it defaults to a max level if it senses certain errors. And that heat is probably causing such an error.

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Choco
02/05/21 9:49:54 AM
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an i going crazy or have we had this topic before

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Seitar
02/05/21 9:50:54 AM
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TAS gone too far.

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The Popo
02/05/21 9:53:34 AM
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Im trying this right now with a boiling pot of water. Will keep CE informed of results.

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WilliamPorygon
02/05/21 9:55:43 AM
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xXfireglzXx posted...
It will just be labeled "Hot plate %" and they'll move on.

I feel like if speedrunners did pinball they'd have a separate category for playing with the glass off the table top and just hitting the targets with your finger.

Choco posted...
an i going crazy or have we had this topic before

We have, but it's ridiculous enough to be worth bringing up again

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E32005
02/05/21 9:56:38 AM
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how does the heating of the cartridge not damage other parts of the game programming?

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SkittyOnWailord
02/05/21 9:57:09 AM
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The Popo posted...
Im trying this right now with a boiling pot of water. Will keep CE informed of results.

Just play it while in the pee sauna. That way you get two things done.

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NeonOctopus
02/05/21 4:26:23 PM
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BakonBitz
02/05/21 4:36:55 PM
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This just confuses me because the speedrunning community has rules against cheating, but yet this is allowed? Where is the line drawn?

Ultimately I don't care in the long run, this just baffles me.
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MC_BatCommander
02/05/21 4:54:23 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
This just confuses me because the speedrunning community has rules against cheating, but yet this is allowed? Where is the line drawn?

Ultimately I don't care in the long run, this just baffles me.

Yeah if they're using an external device to change shit why not just use a Game Genie or something and spare the risk of damaging the console / game?

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Choco
02/05/21 4:57:14 PM
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refmon
02/05/21 5:04:42 PM
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How did he even discover this?

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pokedude900
02/05/21 5:05:18 PM
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For the record, this is classified as a type of TAS, not RTA. It's in a separate category from a normal Any% run.
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