Board 8 > Mass Effect Legendary Edition release date May 14

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PerfectChaosZ posted...

I wish they had some added cut content but I'm excited I kinda wish they made the other two more like the first one than vice versa tho lol

Thank goodness they didn't

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I absolutely adored ME1 when it first came out (was my first next gen game), but after trying to play it about year ago it is, a....diffucult. Game is pretty rough. I am very much looking forward to the glowup.

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ME1 is a fine game.

ME2 and ME3 are great games.

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maybe I will finally do my renegade plathrough

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So 9 years later anyone gonna pick a different ending for ME3?

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Reject.

Now. Then. Forever.

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I'll pick Synthesis again.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

I'll pick Synthesis again.

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if the update to ME1 is really good, i might actually finish that one this time

Really disappointed in the decision to not bring back the ME3 multiplayer.

We know the real reason they aren't is because they couldn't figure out a way to monetize the crates from the original, especially with the loot box backlash in the last couple of years, so they just said fuck it.

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I mean it's POSSIBLE they could be doing the smart thing and releasing it as a downloadable free to play game down the line.

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I might go for Synthesis since I'm more open-minded than I was back then but likely to pick Destroy again. Dunno.
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Yes, yes, yessssssssssssssss!

The multiplayer was actually amazing, but I'm fine with them cutting it to focus on everything else they mentioned in that article yo linked.

Plus, yeah, they could always patch it in later if the trilogy sells a ton (which I think it will).


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Full Paragon Control Ending

Dont cry for me Liara

Will probably go with the blue ending as it's my favorite color of the three

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Please, PLEASE dont fix the infinite yelling loop bug from 2 if someone dies from Pull.

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Yeah, I'll get this.

I played them as they came out and never bothered to look at ME3 again which it definitely deserved. Then my brother kept our 360 when I moved out, so I no longer have the games either. I considered getting them on PS3, but it just seemed like a trash version and I've never been much of a PC gamer, so instead I've waited for this to come.

I had no issues with ME1 back then, but it's probably harder to go back to than the others, I approve of the decisions.

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Everything about ME3's story felt designed to make Synthesis the 'good' ending, like yeah it's weird and doesn't make sense and arguably goes against the first two games but that's clearly the one that was written to be the 'true' one imo. Destroy is just way too harsh with killing the Geth right after they're suddenly free, and EDI right after she's accepted being alive. Control is silly, why have Illusive Man die if you can just follow his plan anyway. Reject is a thematically consistent one I like in theory but it's also clearly tossed in just to placate fans who hated the original choices (First time playing Extended Cut I tried shooting Starchild and was pleasantly surprised that that immediately takes you right into Reject lol).


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I've done all the endings. Destroy has always been the "canon" ending in my mind.

Reject has always been unbelievably stupid.

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Except reject shows that the next cycle defeats the Reapers without having to make any of those three choices.

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TheRock1525 posted...

Except reject shows that the next cycle defeats the Reapers without having to make any of those three choices.

yeah it's nice Commander Yahgpard managed to pull it off but at the expense of billions of lives because Shepard had to throw a tantrum over not liking his options

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Lose the battle, won the war.

Perfectly Shepard.

Best ending and I will continue to fight people on this. Same with Jack best squadmate.

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I basically refuse to accept Destroy as the canon ending when it involves Shepard committing genocide after the games have pretty firmly taken the bold stance that genocide is actually bad.

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FFDragon posted...

Lose the battle, won the war.

Perfectly Shepard.

except I don't remember Shepard actually losing too many battles!

also he lost the war and someone else had to win the next one

I mean you can like it as a rejection of the original endings if you hated them but within the context of the plot it's an awful decision

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In the context of the plot it makes perfect sense not to trust a sketchy reaper AI on a machine built in haste that we're still not quite sure what it really does.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielnyegriffiths/2012/06/28/real-hero-of-mass-effect/?sh=d244b90389be

Giving the next cycle ample time to prepare and not rely on all that seems way better imho

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okay except the thing didn't lie so you're throwing away billions of lives because you thought it might be lying and it wasn't

it wasn't the logical decision, but hey if your Shepard doesn't make logical decisions then that's fine!

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I basically refuse to accept Destroy as the canon ending when it involves Shepard committing genocide after the games have pretty firmly taken the bold stance that genocide is actually bad.

every ending has its problems but I think that's also part of the point

there wasn't going to be a "let's put a nice little bow on it and give everyone a happy ending" choice so everyone has to pick the one that's the least problematic for them

(not meant to be an absolute defense of the endings because it's still not great but I do think not giving you an absolutely happy ending was a design choice)

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It's definitely a logical decision when your options are TIM 2.0, Commander Hitler, and force warping everyone on a molecular level.

Plus it works thematically too, insofar as the Protheans sabotaged the Keepers, which gave Shep-cycle more time to gather data.

Shep-cycle gets further, leaves their capsule with all the data.

Next-cycle takes all that and stops the Reapers without the need for their nonsense.

Makes it more of a continued galactic battle through time. Which I personally find the most satisfying of all the endings, no matter how bittersweet.

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I dont care about there not being a happy ending, I care that the endings aren't consistent from a thematic and narrative standpoint, and Destroy happens to be the least consistent of all!

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I dont care about there not being a happy ending, I care that the endings aren't consistent from a thematic and narrative standpoint, and Destroy happens to be the least consistent of all!

hey man if your Shepard was Renegade the whole way, he hated the geth so it works for him!

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Destroy is definitely the definitive Renegade ending, I'll spot you that one.

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Also I'm not saying Destroy is my ending of choice. I just think it was clearly intended to be the canon ending because it's the only one where Shepard can survive as himself.

I personally prefer Control even though it means TIM was right to an extent. I'm just more okay with Shepard being the one in control because it's the outcome least likely to screw over the entire galaxy.

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Synthesis seems like the purely happy ending? It may not be realistic, but basically everyone comes out in a good situation there.
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LeonhartFour posted...

hey man if your Shepard was Renegade the whole way, he hated the geth so it works for him!

True but 100% Renegade is so cartoonishly dickish and it's obvious it wasn't the story the writers wanted to tell so much as presenting a fun and weird alternative.

Despite the choices matter marketing there is just so much less effort put into the obviously bad decisions. You can't sit here and tell me that shooting Wrex on Vermire or killing Mordin or Legion are equally valid options, because the game's writing becomes noticeably worse if you do!

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Killing Mordin is the most emotional moment in ME3! It's an amazingly well-written moment with great consequences.

Shooting Wrex isn't nearly as interesting, yeah.
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They're valid options. I don't think they're good choices, and you get punished for making them in the long run, as you rightfully should.

And yeah, Synthesis is probably the closest thing you get to a happy ending in ME3. I just personally find it weird and unsatisfying.

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Mac Arrowny posted...

Killing Mordin is the most emotional moment in ME3! It's an amazingly well-written moment with great consequences.

My bad, I was under the impression you could kill him in ME2 and avoid his ME3 scenes, but you can't actually choose to do so besides intentionally fucking up the end mission. So that one is valid. The rest is filler or explicitly punishment for being bad, and having negative consequences is good but it's also a clear indication of what the game actually wanted you to do.

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You get a real cool conversation with Garrus about it in ME3. I never got the impression that the game wanted me to go any other way - it was just a different choice you could make.

Killing people in earlier games to make them not appear in later games is much worse, of course, but ME3's the last game in the trilogy so it didn't have that problem.
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I just can't see anyone going through the Quarian/Geth arc in ME3 and watching EDI's growth and then deciding 'yeah we should just zap all the synthetics dead who cares', Synthesis is silly and weird as hell (Joker's mecha-cap) but it's the only one where everybody lives. Don't get me wrong, I think all the endings are very bad, but Destroy is just so callous it's bizarre to me that it's considered the best option among so many.

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I can't even imagine selecting destroy, but I've literally never selected a single renegade option in the franchise, so red is bad!

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I've done Paragon, Renegade, and "middle option whenever possible" runs. All worthwhile experiences!

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I only ever do "pure paragon" runs in EVERY RPG with and equivilant system, really. Just can't bring myself to do otherwise, even when it provides a significantly different experience. Hell, even Undertale!

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

I can't even imagine selecting destroy, but I've literally never selected a single renegade option in the franchise, so red is bad!

If you didn't renegade interrupt Kai Leng not only are you playing it wrong you're also a complete monster, an unfeeling automaton.

Synthesis is a weird ending because it feels like the Reapers won since Shepherd is basically agreeing that humans and robots can never live in peace.

Control is definitely the renegade option in my opinion. Even if Shepherd has good intentions he's still capable of making bad decisions. I mean the reapers thought they had good intentions too!

Destroy is a little weird because yes you're killing the Geth and Edi but it feels the most paragon because it's a more hopeful ending to me. Shepherd is disagreeing with the reapers that humanity and robots can't live together and he's also breaking the cycle. Sure it's sad that Edi died but they could make a new Edi in like a week right?

Reject is okay thematically but not necessarily a satisfying ending for the characters you've spent 3 games with.

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Murphiroth posted...

If you didn't renegade interrupt Kai Leng not only are you playing it wrong you're also a complete monster, an unfeeling automaton.

Are you talking about the stab or something else?

I just looked up the renegade trigger and it plays out basically the same either way.

I don't remember a ton of ME3 because it's ME3, so sorry if it's something else.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Are you talking about the stab or something else?

I just looked up the renegade trigger and it plays out basically the same either way.

I don't remember a ton of ME3 because it's ME3, so sorry if it's something else.

The stab. Literally every Paragon player I've ever seen says that's the one Renegade prompt they immediately mashed.

Doing it any other way is wrong.

The only Renegade prompt I ever just instinctually hit without even thinking during my first run through ME3 (which was a Paragon run) was shooting Udina.

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Murphiroth posted...

The stab. Literally every Paragon player I've ever seen says that's the one Renegade prompt they immediately mashed.

Doing it any other way is wrong.

I don't really get how this is a big deal. If you don't hit it then he just misses like an idiot and you still stab him in the stomach. It's the definition of an unimportant decision.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

the definition of an unimportant decision

I mean, this could basically be the tagline for the series.

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I'm a paragon guy but I also have a base instinct to instantly hit every interrupt that pops up, for better or worse.

skullbone posted...

Destroy is a little weird because yes you're killing the Geth and Edi but it feels the most paragon because it's a more hopeful ending to me. Shepherd is disagreeing with the reapers that humanity and robots can't live together and he's also breaking the cycle. Sure it's sad that Edi died but they could make a new Edi in like a week right?

Reject is okay thematically but not necessarily a satisfying ending for the characters you've spent 3 games with.

Shepard is disagreeing that organics and synthetics can't live in peace by... killing all synthetics? And making a new EDI is impossible, it undermines the whole point of her individual unique life! I agree about reject, thematically it is strong but it's such a half-assed ending that isn't treated like a full thing so it doesn't really work.

Honestly my main objection with all the endings is how Shepard takes it upon him/herself to decide the fate of the galaxy, whether genociding all synthetics, becoming a reaper god, or forcibly altering all life at a genetic level. It's such a squad/community-based series that goes entirely single-minded on Shep in the last 10 minutes, I hate how the squadmates don't join you up there. Hitting the destroy button with EDI right there would at least force Shepard and the player to confront the reality of what they're about to do.

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