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MaddenDude--
01/31/21 4:52:35 PM
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I feel like so few people on CE want to get married, have kids, and buy a house.

Is it purely because of the financial burden? Because being married lightens that load.

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AzurexNightmare
01/31/21 4:53:17 PM
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No because we don't want to live our lives for someone else. Having kids when you're old can be a good thing (maybe) but you already spent your youth to get there. It's a trade.

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MabusIncarnate
01/31/21 4:53:33 PM
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I married and bought a house but no kids, and don't want them

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Sackgurl
01/31/21 4:54:09 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
Because being married lightens that load.

being married lightens it, sure, but raising a family does not

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Heartomaton
01/31/21 4:55:58 PM
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I really want to be married, but I'd rather die than have children.

Children are repulsive.

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KID VID
01/31/21 4:57:12 PM
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I'm married and have 2 kids. I never wanted to get married or have kids, but love makes you do some dumb stuff, man. Don't get it twisted, I love them all and I'd do it again if i had the chance.

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sauceje
01/31/21 4:57:13 PM
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I want to live an easy life and none of that sounds easy

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AzurexNightmare
01/31/21 4:57:18 PM
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Kids don't just walk out the door at 18 either. If I had a lifespan of several hundred years I'd absolutely want to raise kids. I'd have more time to myself.

What mind boggles me is people who have kids at 18 right after high school. You were just given the keys to life and you threw them away.

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Irony
01/31/21 4:58:47 PM
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Families are nothing but money and time vampires

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Alteres
01/31/21 4:58:56 PM
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While I dont think children are repulsive I currently dont want any.

Potentially married and a house is fine, would have to know I was going to live somewhere for awhile.

My last relationship was ten years long and we lived together in various apartments over that time.

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DoGCyN
01/31/21 4:59:07 PM
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Children is the only thing on that list I'm out on. Currently own a house and fully plan on getting married

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MagnusX
01/31/21 4:59:49 PM
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We have been engaged for a bunch of years and haven't gotten married because we keep travelling every summer. We also own two vehicles and make more than the median household income for our province. Our only debt is 2/3 of a mortgage. We could definitely afford kids, but the things we do to enjoy life couldn't.

I don't care about family lines or having offspring carry my DNA. I want to enjoy our very brief time on this planet to the maximum and devoting everything to kids is almost the polar opposite of a fulfilling life to me.
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orangefire25
01/31/21 5:00:58 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
I married and bought a house but no kids, and don't want them
Same

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BlazinBlue88
01/31/21 5:01:25 PM
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My wife and I are constantly on the fence about whether we want a kid or not. We started raising her 12 year old brother last year so we feel like after he moves out that'll be it for us.

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DarthAragorn
01/31/21 5:01:48 PM
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see I think it'd be pretty impossible to do alone and no woman would ever touch me so why bother
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KaZooo
01/31/21 5:02:04 PM
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Perhaps it's not so much about the kids/spouse, but the world around them. The means to afford a family, steer them right, that's one thing. Go 20 years or so down the line hoping they find living worthwhile, another thing. Explaining the crudeness of society and why some things that should be, aren't.

Of course, I can understand that if you (accidentally?) got the ball rolling, now you're in for the ride.

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MaddenDude--
01/31/21 5:07:30 PM
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My 17 month old takes up all my free time. Sure I don't have time for video games, reading, working out, netflix, going out for a few drinks, etc all things I enjoyed doing. I can still do those things but just much less. But at the end of the day none of those beat the joy of playing around with him and seeing him laugh and play. I just can't wait til he gets older and we can play sports together or video games together, go to sporting events, theme parks, etc.

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fuming
01/31/21 5:11:10 PM
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PrideOfLion posted...
I'm married but we're not having kids
Looking at houses though

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KogaSteelfang
01/31/21 5:17:00 PM
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That kind of life is literally all I want.

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TheLiarParadox
01/31/21 5:17:58 PM
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I've thought about it every which way and I can't see anything that justifies me having a kid. Not even the highest highs make it seem worth it.

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furb
01/31/21 5:17:58 PM
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I'm 36, work full time, and I have a graduate degree. I have a nice size amount of money saved and I could buy a house if I wanted to do so.

I am extremely skittish about having children. The moral burden of raising them correctly while also needing to rearrange my life to give them the proper care makes me uncomfortable. I had a happy up bringing, but I feel like it take a lot of work to keep my own life in order. It worries me I could not be reliable as a parent.

In short, it's likely a fear of commitment I pave over with a veneer of valuing my freedom. I ended things with a woman I likely was in love with enough to marry her over this issue during my early 30s. But I seriously value my freedom too.

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Too many people seem to rush into it thinking it will fill a void in their lives. Not sure if that's the best reason to do it. I also think some folks must have a much stronger biological urge to *have kids now* than I do or something. I figure that urge paves over a lot of the debates about loss of freedom and commitment. Lots of my friends that have kids and good jobs never enjoyed the fun of having money and no kids. It's like the meme comic adventures of captain no-kids. It's somewhat accurate.

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harley2280
01/31/21 5:19:10 PM
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Nah.

My Parents were terrible, and even though I say I want to be a better parent than they were I know I have way too many of their mannerisms and selfishness.
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Laserion
01/31/21 5:27:29 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
I married and bought a house but no kids, and don't want them

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smoke_break
01/31/21 5:29:10 PM
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I do but I never had the opportunity to. Just never met the right person. I guess I technically still can but meh, dating is different now.

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3PiesAndAFork
01/31/21 5:29:43 PM
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I feel like the ratio of wantingkids vs not wanting always been like this, it's just becoming less of a societal faux pas to be childless now.

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MajesticFerret
01/31/21 5:30:44 PM
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What confuses me is all these guys who are ok with marriage but don't want to have kids...why?

The ONLY upside to marriage is it makes it harder to break up and forces couples to fix their shit which is better for raising kids. Outside of that, marriage is objectively useless. You can be in a long term relationship for years without having to buy an overpriced wedding ring, pay for an overpriced wedding, and sign a government contract where you split your shit and potentially have to pay alimony if you break up.

And this is coming from a happily married man. I only did it because this is the woman I want to bare kids with and the government practically treats you as married if you live together and are raising a kid anyways.

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furb
01/31/21 5:35:09 PM
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I am fine with marriage for the most part. As long the partner is fairly independent. I prefer more cat-like partner than a dog-like one.

I like the company and somebody to do things with and somebody to push and push me. It would be nice to have the extra income around too and to help with day to day drudgery. The worst that can happen is we would divorce and move on. You can't cut your losses and move on nearly as simply without some sort of moral albatross following you around.


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JBaLLEN66
01/31/21 5:35:13 PM
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Only a fool would get married today....kids are more of a personal preference

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Bleuets
01/31/21 5:36:50 PM
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Most people here are insecure and girls dont like them so they claim they dont want a family.
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TheLiarParadox
01/31/21 5:40:55 PM
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MajesticFerret posted...
What confuses me is all these guys who are ok with marriage but don't want to have kids...why?

The ONLY upside to marriage is it makes it harder to break up and forces couples to fix their shit which is better for raising kids. Outside of that, marriage is objectively useless. You can be in a long term relationship for years without having to buy an overpriced wedding ring, pay for an overpriced wedding, and sign a government contract where you split your shit and potentially have to pay alimony if you break up.

And this is coming from a happily married man. I only did it because this is the woman I want to bare kids with and the government practically treats you as married if you live together and are raising a kid anyways.
Dude, what?


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AzurexNightmare
01/31/21 5:40:57 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
But at the end of the day none of those beat the joy of playing around with him and seeing him laugh and play.
I've never understood this. To me it's like having some kind of parental part of your brain awaken to brainwash you into enjoying that for lack of a better word.

The reason I say that is because I know right now I don't want to play with some young kid. I'd rather do my hobbies by myself or with my girl.

But all of a sudden, once I have a kid, that changes and I prefer to play with the kid? Don't get me wrong, props to you for being a good dad, but fuck that...

Yeah I know it's different because it's not a random kid. It's your kid. But that's kinda the point I'm making. It's still a kid. I'd rather just do my own thing. Without all that investment. Having that kid take away all my favorite things to do in life just for their own existence.. I'm good.

Now being an uncle where I can take the kids for a ride and maybe have them for a weekend tops? I do not mind at all. I'd take joy in it because once they go back to their parents house, it's not my problem anymore.

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Darmik
01/31/21 5:43:27 PM
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You've read this board right? I think that's overall a good thing <_<

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NOM
01/31/21 5:46:03 PM
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I'm a foreveralone and I don't want to pass on my terrible genes to some poor child.

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SergeantGander
01/31/21 5:52:24 PM
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Darmik posted...
You've read this board right? I think that's overall a good thing <_<

Yea, TC, I'm thankful these people aren't raising children tbh.

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Darmik
01/31/21 5:52:33 PM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
I've never understood this. To me it's like having some kind of parental part of your brain awaken to brainwash you into enjoying that for lack of a better word.

The reason I say that is because I know right now I don't want to play with some young kid. I'd rather do my hobbies by myself or with my girl.

But all of a sudden, once I have a kid, that changes and I prefer to play with the kid? Don't get me wrong, props to you for being a good dad, but fuck that...

Yeah I know it's different because it's not a random kid. It's your kid. But that's kinda the point I'm making. It's still a kid. I'd rather just do my own thing. Without all that investment. Having that kid take away all my favorite things to do in life just for their own existence.. I'm good.

Now being an uncle where I can take the kids for a ride and maybe have them for a weekend tops? I do not mind at all. I'd take joy in it because once they go back to their parents house, it's not my problem anymore.

Lol it's not being brainwashed. You're that kids everything and they are your everything. Your life is just fundamentally different. It's an unconditional love that is different from all else. Them being happy makes you happy. Helping them grow and succeed gives a totally new purpose to your life.

It's fine that you would rather do your own thing. Some people can't even stand the thought of being in a committed relationship. But not everyone is wired like that. I don't think my life would feel anywhere near as satisfying if I only lived for myself and did what I wanted to do. The highlights of my life happened when I got out of my comfort zone and did things with and for other people. But that's me. I both can't wait for my kid to grow up so I can do even more stuff with them but I also love her as she is now because she's so damn sweet and adorable.

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The_Korey
01/31/21 6:23:24 PM
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A house, sure, but the other two... Even ignoring my distaste for kids, what's my incentive?

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Vicious_Dios
01/31/21 6:37:13 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
I feel like so few people on CE want to get married, have kids, and buy a house.

Is it purely because of the financial burden? Because being married lightens that load.

Well, what do you expect?

They can't even take care of themselves, much less a kid or a partner who also has their needs... There're merely born to be dependents to their parents way into their 20's.

What are they doing to pull their weight? They're too busy jacking off to anime cartoons, feet, horses, dogs, dolphins, and even fucking feet. ... And that's the first cap. Beneath that shit cake you have your users who pride themselves in being complete wastes of space by simply existing only to get hammered, and high, all while bitching about it by complaining to others about 'muh depression'.

They're entitled children without the maturity to be self-sufficient and want Bernie to give them unearned money to pay off their Liberal Arts degrees.


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MaddenDude--
01/31/21 6:58:37 PM
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lmfao, i totally agree bro

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Lairen
01/31/21 7:00:17 PM
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Im married ans have a daughter. I feel ive completed my duty. Now just raise her ok and not fuck up my marriage.

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Lil_Bit83
01/31/21 7:05:34 PM
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Why the hell should you even care? It doesn't affect you if people don't want to have kids.

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coh
01/31/21 7:18:53 PM
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Lil_Bit83 posted...
Why the hell should you even care? It doesn't affect you if people don't want to have kids.
It affects society at large tho
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Vicious_Dios
01/31/21 7:48:13 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
lmfao, i totally agree bro

Looks like some didn't.

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Kingbuffet
01/31/21 7:49:31 PM
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America right now is not a good place to raise children in, it's sad that the American dream is dead
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BloodMoon7
01/31/21 8:03:52 PM
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Marriage is gross and kids are little goblins. Ban children.

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AzurexNightmare
01/31/21 8:03:54 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Looks like some didn't.
I saw the post and tried to reply to it but now it's gone. Kinda weird that it was deleted, but less weird than your random rage towards strangers lol. It was oddly specific.

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Jiek_Fafn
01/31/21 8:10:01 PM
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My life has been difficult. I dont want to make it more difficult now that I've finally made it to a point where I'm comfortable. No kids for me ty. The rest is great though

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Stalolin
01/31/21 8:11:05 PM
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My wife and I are on the fence, but leaning towards not having them. Its very possible we will, but we value our money and free time a lot.
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