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In chess there's a move called an en passant where you can use upon to capture an adjacent pawn by moving diagonally behind it so long as the opponent's pawn is blocked by another one of your pawns

Picture of setup

My question is if I move the pawn on the right to take the night in the back will it also on passant the pawn?

Like so (this app doesn't do en passants)


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Are you white, and also you are about to lose that Pawn anyway.
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wow, this was a chess lesson in itself

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the only way a piece can be taken in your second picture is if the red knight takes the white pawn

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SiO4 posted...

Are you white, and also you are about to lose that Pawn anyway.

I had to play both sides to get the set up, ancillary pieces are irrelevant

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I dont play chess but I would move the queen one space above the pawn to the far right to protect that line. But I cant see the full board so I dunno

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En passant only works to capture a pawn that advances two instead of one. The placement of any other pawns is completely irrelevant. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the maneuver.

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Checkmate carpathians

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

En passant only works to capture a pawn that advances two instead of one. The placement of any other pawns is completely irrelevant

What I'm asking is if the en passant maneuver happens to also capture the knight, does the en passant still play, or does the standard capture take precedence

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en passant is ONLY for pawns who have just moved for two spaces immediately out of their starting position.

When chess rules started getting formalized, camp A said "pawns move one space forward only" and camp B said "pawns can move two spaces the first time they move". The compromise was the ability for a pawn from the enemy side to still capture a pawn that would've been an available kill if it only moved once. From french it means "in passing".

No, en passant does not apply to any pawn, especially on pawns 3 spaces from starting position. Red pawn is not subject to en passant because the three criteria are not met.

1) Enemy pawn in C row
2) Your pawn in B row moving onto D row
3) C must act immediately to capitalize on en passant. Waiting a turn to do something with a knight or queen or whatever removes the window of en passant
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I don't think you understand what en passant actually is TC. En passant only applies immediately after a pawn moves 2 spaces from it's starting position and would have been caputurable by an opposing pawn if it had only moved 1 space instead

En Passant was invented to prevent the abuse of the newly introduced "double move" rule for pawns. Thus, it ONLY APPLIES when a player pushes their pawn two spaces next to the opponent's pawn. This rule was invented to make up for the fact that before the double-move rule, you would be able to capture their pawn if it tries to pass yours.

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Pawns can only move 2 spaces on their first move and cannot jump any pieces.

you can only capture it by moving into the space directly in front the pawns starting position that has been skipped due to the 2 space initial move as long as the pawn hasnt moved again

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You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what en passant does.

If you have a pawn in the fifth rank, and your opponent advances one of their pawns two spaces instead of one to be adjacent to your pawn instead, then you can take it diagonally, as though it had moved only once space.

In the first picture, your pawn is in its 4th rank. It cannot perform en passant from there.

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You can only en passant when a pawn moves two spaces forward next to your pawn.

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For the sake of argument assume the enemy position applied, jesus christ



Happy now?

NOW! If I attempt an en passant, can I take the knight and complete the maneuver, netting me a sweet sweet double kill? Or do I only make glue of the horse?


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dib153 posted...

For the sake of argument assume the enemy position applied, jesus christ



Happy now?

NOW! If I attempt an en passant, can I take the knight and complete the maneuver, netting me a sweet sweet double kill? Or do I only make glue of the horse?

You CANNOT attempt an en passant, because you are not in the position to use one.

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dib153 posted...

For the sake of argument assume the enemy position applied, jesus christ

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Happy now?

NOW! If I attempt an en passant, can I take the knight and complete the maneuver, netting me a sweet sweet double kill? Or do I only make glue of the horse?

If you're white, black is the one that can do en passant on you, not the other way around.
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dib153 posted...

Or do I only make glue of the horse?

Horse only.

The criteria:

1) Enemy pawn in C row
2) Your pawn in B row moving onto D row
3) Enemy pawn in C must act immediately to capitalize on en passant. Waiting a turn to do something with a knight or queen or whatever removes the window of en passant

With the knight there in the first place, it's impossible for the enemy pawn to have just moved two spaces in the first place, therefore pawn capture en passant does not happen. afaik there is literally no way to for double kill to occur in chess.
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In the recent pic You will capture the knight, not the knight and pawn.

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WaterLink posted...

If you're white, black is the one that can do en passant on you, not the other way around.

No, they can't. You can't take any random adjacent pawn, you can ONLY take a pawn that moved 2 spaces forward from their starting position, and only if you do it right then and there

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Glad we got that sorted

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He still doesn't get it.

I bet the app actually does allow en passants lol.

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

WaterLink posted...

If you're white, black is the one that can do en passant on you, not the other way around.

No, they can't. You can't take any random adjacent pawn, you can ONLY take a pawn that moved 2 spaces forward from their starting position, and only if you do it right then and there

If it was Black's turn and white just moved their pawn there two spaces, then en passant is possible. Since we were on the subject I thought that was the situation. If it's White's turn then it's just a regular capture of the knight, nothing special.
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WaterLink posted...

If it was Black's turn and white just moved their pawn there two spaces, then en passant is possible. Since we were on the subject I thought that was the situation. If it's White's turn then it's just a regular capture of the knight, nothing special.

White cannot move their pawn two spaces to get there. You can only move a pawn two spaces from the starting position, and that pawn if more than two spaces from the starting position.

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

White cannot move their pawn two spaces to get there

???



It does look like the last move was the black knight though since it's highlighted and therefore it'd be white's turn but if that was the last white move, black could've used en passant.

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Ah, you were referring to the original picture. You are correct there.

The post you quoted with the photo, he moved the pieces to be on the correct line.

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

Ah, you were referring to the original picture. You are correct there.

The post you quoted with the photo, he moved the pieces to be on the correct line.

That's my bad. I was using gameraven when I quoted the post so the images aren't embedded for me so I was just going off of memory but then I switch to the actual site to upload that pic and I can see where the confusion came from lol.

TC do you understand it now though?

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