Current Events > Senate has just introduced legislation to make DC the 51st state

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BunkerBoy
01/27/21 10:52:22 AM
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E32005
01/27/21 10:53:51 AM
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Choco
01/27/21 10:55:40 AM
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waahhh the FLAGy!!! UOU CANNOT EVER CHANGE THE FLAG NOOI AHAHAHS

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Accolon
01/27/21 10:56:33 AM
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I feel like we have more pressing matters right now. Maybe I'm wrong

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BunkerBoy
01/27/21 10:56:34 AM
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E32005 posted...
pros/cons?
Non inclusive list, I'll list one of each, others feel free to add

Pros: millions of people are no longer disenfranchised and have a voice in the governing of the country

Con: DC is literally just a city (yes, even though it has far more people than some states)

Joke con: 51 is a weird number
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BunkerBoy
01/27/21 11:33:18 AM
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Accolon posted...
I feel like we have more pressing matters right now. Maybe I'm wrong
Covid relief is being worked on as well
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coh
01/27/21 11:34:08 AM
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is this even constitutional? Doesnt sound like it
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CruelBuffalo
01/27/21 11:34:34 AM
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Should be a state. We have some places like San Francisco that are city and county. We can do city county state as well.
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BignutzisBack
01/27/21 11:34:39 AM
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I'm pretty iffy on DC becoming a state but I have been wanting Puerto Rico for many years, I think it would be cool as hell to be a alive while a new state is added

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RadiantJoyrock
01/27/21 11:35:08 AM
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coh posted...
is this even constitutional? Doesnt sound like it
Yes it is, why would it not be?
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
01/27/21 11:35:58 AM
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Fun fact: In 2016 they were looking for it to be named "New Columbia" before it got changed to the State of Washington DC. Columbia was going to be the name of Washington State but it was changed to avoid confusion with the "District of Columbia". Weird little flip flop.

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CruelBuffalo
01/27/21 11:36:26 AM
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They also need to make it a law that if Puerto Rico votes to join the union they become a state.
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TheBlueMonk_
01/27/21 11:36:33 AM
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coh posted...
is this even constitutional? Doesnt sound like it
yes it says right here in the constitution

And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou make the holy United States. Then shalt thou count to fifty, no more, no less. Fifty shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be fifty. Forty-nine shalt thou not count, neither count thou forty-eight, excepting that thou then proceed to fifty. Fifty-one is right out.

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soulunison2
01/27/21 11:36:57 AM
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Fuck yeah Puerto Rico is next
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coh
01/27/21 11:38:03 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Ummm...you do know we didn't have fifty states to start right?
I mean specifically making DC a state
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Zanzenburger
01/27/21 11:38:09 AM
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TheBlueMonk_ posted...

I laughed at this harder than I should have.

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Alteres
01/27/21 11:38:30 AM
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Puerto Rico I would be a lot more supportive of.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
01/27/21 11:40:47 AM
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Surprised it took a week before this was proposed.

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tremain07
01/27/21 11:42:05 AM
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Not gonna happen, not D, not Puerto Rico. Republicans won't have it and Democrats, especially once the media machine republicans have start tearing at this will grow fearful and back off. Republicans have basically beaten Democrats so badly that they're basically scared and brutalized dogs that flinch if you so much as raise a hand even if it isn't directed at them

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s0nicfan
01/27/21 11:42:39 AM
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Accolon posted...
I feel like we have more pressing matters right now. Maybe I'm wrong

DC is an almost guaranteed 2 blue Senate seats. you're seeing people push for it now because the goal is to make sure that Republicans never hold the Senate again.

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EndOfDiscOne
01/27/21 11:47:23 AM
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coh posted...
is this even constitutional? Doesnt sound like it
I'd like to know too. It seems weird to have one state with some authority over all of the others.

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BunkerBoy
01/27/21 11:48:07 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
DC is an almost guaranteed 2 blue Senate seats
Places don't determine how people vote. California was reliably red before 92. Flips happen all the time. Maybe Republicans need to shift their party priorities to target the majority of the country if they want to be competitive. Certainly the failed "MAGA" experiment should not be repeated
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The Nintendo Master
01/27/21 11:49:05 AM
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RadiantJoyrock posted...
Yes it is, why would it not be?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/the-constitution-says-no-to-dc-statehood/ar-BB15MkiW

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Choco
01/27/21 11:49:14 AM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
I'd like to know too. It seems weird to have one state with some authority over all of the others.
what authority?

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Unsugarized_Foo
01/27/21 11:49:23 AM
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They already have flags picked out for up to 54 or so states I think

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Esrac
01/27/21 11:51:15 AM
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I dunno. I'm all for Puerto Rico being a state. Thats well overdue. But I feel like the nation's capital should be a "neutral ground", so to speak.
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Duncanwii
01/27/21 11:51:32 AM
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BunkerBoy posted...
Con: DC is literally just a city (yes, even though it has far more people than some states)

The Vatican is just a city and it's an entire country.
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AirFresh
01/27/21 11:52:34 AM
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I think they need to keep it at an even number imo so get Puerto Rico as well.

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BunkerBoy
01/27/21 11:53:04 AM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
I'd like to know too. It seems weird to have one state with some authority over all of the others.
DC doesn't really have authority. It's the place where our lawmakers meet, but should that exclude it from the union?
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Proto_Spark
01/27/21 11:53:08 AM
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BunkerBoy posted...
Places don't determine how people vote. California was reliably red before 92. Flips happen all the time. Maybe Republicans need to shift their party priorities to target the majority of the country if they want to be competitive. Certainly the failed "MAGA" experiment should not be repeated

DC is (IIRC) the only place in the country that has literally never voted Republican. The closest DC has ever gotten to voting a republican is when Nixon got not quite 22% of the DC vote.

I totally agree its possible that could change, and republicans definitely need to shift party priorities, but as far as anyone can reasonably predict, DC would become a very blue state.
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Choco
01/27/21 11:53:56 AM
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AirFresh posted...
I think they need to keep it at an even number imo so get Puerto Rico as well.
american thought processes are so wild that i can't even tell if this is trolling or not

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soulunison2
01/27/21 11:54:00 AM
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The Nintendo Master posted...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/the-constitution-says-no-to-dc-statehood/ar-BB15MkiW

lmao fuck the constitution thats why the riots are gonna let the biggest players walk free, Dems should walk all over that shit
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Unsugarized_Foo
01/27/21 11:55:44 AM
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Esrac posted...
I dunno. I'm all for Puerto Rico being a state. Thats well overdue. But I feel like the nation's capital should be a "neutral ground", so to speak.

I get the feeling and agree. It doesn't make much sense though...might be easier to have the federal buildings act like embassies, and just do their own thing

Or maybe just let the old state borders exist only for federal elections. That'll give Maryland and Virginia some more power, although that'd secure VA as a solid blue state

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KiwiTerraRizing
01/27/21 11:56:23 AM
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Two guaranteed democratic seats baby

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DarkChozoGhost
01/27/21 11:56:32 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
DC is an almost guaranteed 2 blue Senate seats. you're seeing people push for it now because the goal is to make sure that Republicans never hold the Senate again.
This is the only reason 99.99994% of people are opposed to it.

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Unsugarized_Foo
01/27/21 11:56:57 AM
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Choco posted...
american thought processes are so wild that i can't even tell if this is trolling or not

50 is a dope number. The next step is 69 or 75, so maybe if we take over Mexico and take their states

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AngelsNAirwav3s
01/27/21 11:58:18 AM
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If they make DC a state, they should combine Connecticut, Massachusetts, RI, New Hampshire, and Vermont into 1 state. No reason for all those suburb states to be individual.

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BunkerBoy
01/27/21 11:59:19 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
If they make DC a state, they should combine Connecticut, Massachusetts, RI, New Hampshire, and Vermont into 1 state. No reason for all those suburb states to be individual.
This doesn't even make sense
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ROBANN_88
01/27/21 11:59:24 AM
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BunkerBoy posted...
Non inclusive list, I'll list one of each, others feel free to add

Pros: millions of people are no longer disenfranchised and have a voice in the governing of the country

Con: DC is literally just a city (yes, even though it has far more people than some states)

just based on the fact that it's a single city: if anything it should be just incorporated to whatever state is next to it

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Paragon21XX
01/27/21 12:00:11 PM
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BunkerBoy posted...
E32005 posted...
pros/cons?
Non inclusive list, I'll list one of each, others feel free to add

Pros: millions of people are no longer disenfranchised and have a voice in the governing of the country

Con: DC is literally just a city (yes, even though it has far more people than some states)

Joke con: 51 is a weird number

There are not "millions of people" in DC without federal representation, only about 710k - larger than Vermont and Wyoming who have about 620k and 580k respectively.

Second, there is already precedent for retrocession no matter how much DC Democrats and Maryland Republicans hate the idea. Maybe Virginia could take on the rest of DC as well since they already took back Alexandria in 1846 and Virgina has already turned blue.
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TheGoldenEel
01/27/21 12:00:51 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
I'd like to know too. It seems weird to have one state with some authority over all of the others.
The land the federal buildings are on would remain federal land

the rest of DC just becomes a separate state

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DarkChozoGhost
01/27/21 12:01:14 PM
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There is literally only one signal argument against DC statehood that holds any merit, and I've never seen anyone on CE mention it.

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Doe
01/27/21 12:01:18 PM
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that would be a really really big deal

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Choco
01/27/21 12:03:29 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
just based on the fact that it's a single city: if anything it should be just incorporated to whatever state is next to it
what's wrong with a city being a state

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V-E-G-Y-
01/27/21 12:04:08 PM
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Choco posted...
waahhh the FLAGy!!! UOU CANNOT EVER CHANGE THE FLAG NOOI AHAHAHS

-conservatives

No, dey are using dat one flag with da circle now instead of da normal one lol
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Choco
01/27/21 12:04:30 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
There is literally only one single argument against DC statehood that holds any merit, and I've never seen anyone on CE mention it.
is it "Washington state would no longer be an unambiguous thing to say"

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Choco
01/27/21 12:05:07 PM
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V-E-G-Y- posted...
No, dey are using dat one flag with da circle now instead of da normal one lol
circle?

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2Pacavelli
01/27/21 12:05:07 PM
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Can DC Residents vote for President if they go to other States to vote?
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