Board 8 > NFL Discussion Topic - Championship Round

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eh I think it's more soul crushing to get zero points there. Entirely different situation than LeFleur earlier.

But anyway disastrous second quarter.

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settling for a field goal at half time is fine for the miniscule emotional uplift of scoring 3 points

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I'm calling this game for the Chiefs

4th quarter Mahomes will throw two 70 yard TDs in the last 7 minutes

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Yeah it's gonna take something truly miraculous for Buffalo to win this now.

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Well an important stop. If Buffalo can score next they have a chance

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Bills have to onside kick the rest of the way.

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If the NFL didn't neuter the onside kick, I imagine more teams would try more onside kicks against the Chiefs.

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Woooo were great and everyone else sucks

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Bills have nothing to be ashamed of. Great season.

The problem for them is... Kansas City is going to be the roadblock for a lot of years. I don't see how they close this gap. What can you really add to make the difference?

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ExThaNemesis posted...

Bills have nothing to be ashamed of. Great season.

The problem for them is... Kansas City is going to be the roadblock for a lot of years. I don't see how they close this gap. What can you really add to make the difference?

A better run game

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Already wondering if they can be the first team to three-peat
Im sure Dr Football is already looking that far ahead too
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Can Brady run the gauntlet? Brees, Rodgers, Mahomes.

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SwiftyDC posted...

Can Brady run the gauntlet? Brees, Rodgers, Mahomes.

if anyone can do it it's Brady.

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If anyone can do it, its the Bucs defense.

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SwiftyDC posted...

Can Brady run the gauntlet? Brees, Rodgers, Mahomes.

Such disrespect to Heinicke
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Chiefs are kinda so good its gross. I at least thought this game would be competitive.

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Suprak the Stud posted...

Chiefs are kinda so good its gross. I at least thought this game would be competitive.

Chiefs decided to take off the power limiters for this one

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I wonder what Buffalo can do to develop a running game next year draft/free-agent wise. I don't know their cap situation and I think they have some other needs.

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Suprak the Stud posted...

If anyone can do it, its the Bucs defense.

maybe theyll cover Hill this time

(i assume they will)

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We were not lined up correctly for that.


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Thats the funniest ALL PENALTIES OFFSET
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I will say I didn't think Green Bay had any chance at all against the Chiefs even if we blew out Tampa Bay today

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A few more Bills field goals and I think they are in this game btw

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I don't see how Brady can beat the Chiefs if he plays like he did tonight

Mahomes seem unstoppable and the Tampa defense can't luck out and hold the Chiefs below 30 points and keep Brady in the game when he throws 3 picks

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KommunistKoala posted...

I will say I didn't think Green Bay had any chance at all against the Chiefs even if we blew out Tampa Bay today

If they blew out Tampa Bay, I'd have thought they had a chance, but yeah, hard to imagine them winning in two weeks if they had eked out a win today without some serious luck on their side.

Tampa's D gives them more of a shot, but the Chiefs are going to have to beat themselves to lose.

Dr_Football posted...

A few more Bills field goals and I think they are in this game btw

hey at least the last one actually made sense. i was pretty upset about #2 and 3 though.

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KommunistKoala posted...

lions, browns, bills, cardinals, chargers, falcons, and bengals are easily more depressing losing cultures right off the bat

Most of those teams won a league Championship pre-Super Bowl era anyway, and the Bengals and Falcons have played in two Super Bowls. I don't think Tampa Bay winning one Super Bowl erases the rest of their history of losing. It's more of an anomaly than anything

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The curse of Bobby Layne continues to this day

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I finally watched the infamous PI call and it was very blatant PI how are people upset about this

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Because there were two thrown flags in the entire game before that, and they were an offsides and a 12 men on defense penalty. They were calling nothing in the game prior to that call, and there were several missed defensive holding penalties, so it's not like there just weren't any flags being thrown because both sides were playing super clean football.

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Because they let that exact same amount of holding go all game until that very moment. It's not that it wasn't holding/PI, it's that they chose to let it go when it was happening to the Packers on 3rd Down earlier in the quarter (and the whole game really) but then all of a sudden found their flags when it ended the game.

Heck, prior to that call we were joking they just were letting everything go when they seemed to let the Packers go a half second over the play clock and didn't bother to call delay of game.

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The argument here is if you miss a call at some point in the game you shouldn't call anything you didn't miss at any other point in the game.

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they had to call that DPI because that shit was blatant

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it was blatant because the receiver flopped

not that their corner pulling lazards jersey below his shoulder pads twice (once on the interception that was a 7-14 point swing) wasnt also extremely blatant

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So was the 3 and out the Packers had after one of those Brady INTs! Or the hands to the face on the exact same play!

It's not "That wasn't PI!" it's "That's some prime bullshit that they apparently 'missed' the Bucs doing it all game and only noticed on a game deciding play that a Packers defender was holding."

Even the commentators were repeatedly talking throughout the game up until that point how "They're really letting them play.", "Lot of hand-checking.", and "They've been letting that go all game."

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I mean, if you didn't watch the game and just took a look at that play because you've heard all the chatter about the game I can understand why you'd be confused that it has people irate because it was obviously a penalty. But to get the annoyance you had to have seen the whole game to put it in context to know that the refs were either blind or were willing to let it go for the first 58 minutes of the game because that's what they did.

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Corrik7 posted...

The argument here is if you miss a call at some point in the game you shouldn't call anything you didn't miss at any other point in the game.

No, the argument is they were clearly letting similar types of contact go up until that point. They weren't "missing" it. They just weren't calling it.

MZero posted...

Most of those teams won a league Championship pre-Super Bowl era anyway

Literally no one cares about pre-Super Bowl era titles

And the Lions have won one playoff game in 60 years

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Its more if an ump was giving one pitcher the outside corner all game but then for the other team called ball four on the same pitch in the bottom of the ninth with the bases loaded to walk in a run.

I even said when it was called that in a vacuum thats a good call. But they had been letting that go all game up until that point and then the ref held the flag for like an extra two seconds thinking it over.

That isnt why GB lost or anything and I put it on the egregiously bad FG more than anything else but I still say that is a bad call given the context of the whole game!

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Also the Falcons have had two of the most embarrassing Super Bowl moments in history in their appearances so if anything it cements the fact that they deserve to be bottom 5

(Everyone remembers 28-3 but who remembers the embarrassing moment from their first Super Bowl? Let's remember the good times)

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I get being upset about missed/ignored penalties specifically but a penalty is a penalty and you shouldn't bank on the ref letting it slide. It's like if the cops let you off for speeding and then you sped again and got a ticket and complained about it. If you play with fire you will get burned eventually.

If the receiver flopped (he probably did) good for him forcing the ref to call it because it should have been a penalty even if he didn't fall

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Nah the biggest play of the game isn't when you decide to grow a conscience

If you really want to use this silly speeding ticket analogy it's like giving a speeding ticket to the guy trying to get his wife to the hospital because she's in labor when he's driving the same speed as the previous five guys you let drive by and didn't stop

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Leonhart4 posted...

Nah the biggest play of the game isn't when you decide to grow a conscience

If you really want to use this silly speeding ticket analogy it's like giving a speeding ticket to the guy trying to get his wife to the hospital because she's in labor when he's driving the same speed as the previous five guys you let drive by and didn't stop

It is the time to grow a conscience imo. If they don't call that and the Packers win, the Bucs lost to a no-call on an obvious penalty, like the Saints a few years ago. If they call it and the Bucs win, the Packers lost because they committed a penalty, which means it's no one's fault but their own. You can blame the refs for missing calls but not for throwing a flag when there was an obvious violation. Maybe I'm weird but I'd rather have a team lose cause they committed a penalty than because of a no-call, regardless of how the rest of the game was called. Two wrongs don't make a right etc. I also think the PI at the end of the game was the most egregious that I saw, although there was PI on the Rodgers INT, but it was harder to see in real time. When the jersey/shirt is stretched like a foot is pretty hard to miss!

That pregnant wife scenario only accounts for the Packers situation though, not the Bucs! So it kind of falls apart, which means it wasn't a great analogy I suppose

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MZero posted...

It is the time to grow a conscience imo. If they don't call that and the Packers win, the Bucs lost to a no-call on an obvious penalty, like the Saints a few years ago.

but now it's the Packers instead

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And this isn't analogous to Saints/Rams where the receiver was literally pushed down.

Bucs fans complain if it isn't called there just like Packers fans complain it wasn't called on the previous drive but they have much less of a gripe than the Saints did

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Like regardless of how you call that last play both teams have a legit gripe with how the end of the game was called so let's not act like they needed to do it for the integrity of the game

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LeonhartFour posted...

but now it's the Packers instead

No because they actually did commit a penalty. They were in the wrong, even if it wasn't called earlier in the game. The Saints (and the Bucs in a hypothetical no-call situation) are the wronged party

Agreed that it wasn't as bad as the Saints one. No arguing that

Packers fans can complain about no-calls if they want, I don't have an issue with that. But complaining that you got called for a penalty you did commit is just silly. Although I will say, the Packers player at the end was very beat and nowhere near the ball. The Bucs player on the INT and that 3rd and 11 to Lazard I see complained about, were in position and made a play on the ball. You're always more likely to get called on those. Like yeah there was PI on the INT but not as obvious as the defender holding onto the back of the receiver like he's water skiing. If the Bucs had a similar play I missed it and would love to see it if anyone has video of it!

Edit: Ok it was contradictory of me to bring that up after saying it was fine to complain about no calls >_> I still think it was a bad missed call on the interception and understand why people would complain about that play

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The thing is teams adjust to the way the game is being called

They literally did not call a single penalty for the first three quarters and it's not like the teams weren't committing them!

And the ref still almost didn't throw the flag anyway. Like yes it's a penalty but it also kinda wasn't for the first 58 minutes.

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Like I only have so much sympathy for the Packers because Brady was desperately trying to give that game away and they couldn't take it, so there's no guarantee the Packers win even if they swallow the whistle

But I just think it's garbage for the refs to basically decide to let them play and not decide the outcome and then go ahead and decide the outcome anyway. It's just the inconsistency I take umbrage with.

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Fair enough. The inconsistency doesn't bother me if the right call is made in the end, so I guess we just differ on that point. Unfortunately, only Corrik seems to agree with me

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MZero posted...

Fair enough. The inconsistency doesn't bother me if the right call is made in the end, so I guess we just differ on that point. Unfortunately, only Corrik seems to agree with me

Because you're both looking at it as people who didn't watch the whole game live!

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