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RebelElite791
01/12/21 9:16:13 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/12/uighur-xinjiang-re-education-camp-china-gulbahar-haitiwaji

@Shablagoo Wanna deny this genocide and get warned for the second time this week?

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Delirious_Beard
01/13/21 7:17:03 PM
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Our exhausted bodies moved through the space in unison, back and forth, side to side, corner to corner. When the soldier bellowed At ease! in Mandarin, our regiment of prisoners froze. He ordered us to remain still. This could last half an hour, or just as often a whole hour, or even more. When it did, our legs began to prickle all over with pins and needles. Our bodies, still warm and restless, struggled not to sway in the moist heat. We could smell our own foul breath. We were panting like cattle. Sometimes, one or another of us would faint. If she didnt come round, a guard would yank her to her feet and slap her awake. If she collapsed again, he would drag her out of the room, and wed never see her again. Ever.

One day, one of my classmates, a woman in her 60s, shut her eyes, surely from exhaustion or fear. The teacher gave her a brutal slap. Think I dont see you praying? Youll be punished! The guards dragged her violently from the room. An hour later, she came back with something she had written: her self-criticism. The teacher made her read it out loud to us. She obeyed, ashen-faced, then sat down again. All shed done was shut her eyes.

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1337toothbrush
01/13/21 7:45:15 PM
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It enrages me, the treatment of Uighurs in China. Surely everyone knows about it by now and yet nothing is being done about it. What about human rights? The claim is made whenever we're invading yet another oil-rich country that we're doing it for human rights. The hypocrisy is maddening. Seriously, what's going to be done about these gross violations of human rights?

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1337toothbrush
01/14/21 11:01:45 PM
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Another thing I want to address: they imprisoned her over her child participating in a gathering that took place outside of China. It makes me sick to my stomach thinking about how China is going to apply (and already applies) increasingly more powerful surveillance and tracking technology. That combined with companies bending over backwards to please China for even a chance to gain a taste of their large population/consumer base makes China dangerously powerful. All dissent is crushed one way or another. What's possible now makes Nineteen Eighty-Four look like a joke by comparison.

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butthole666
01/14/21 11:02:08 PM
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Tankies defend this

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MuayThai85
01/14/21 11:04:56 PM
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Fuck the CCP. The single greatest threat to global peace and stability. Xi Xingping is a Mao fanboy and won't be happy until he's taken over the world or the world is destroyed for everyone else.

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gamer167
01/14/21 11:05:06 PM
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Where the CCP shills at?
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Trumble
01/14/21 11:23:31 PM
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Fuck the CCP. Fuck them with a capital F.

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ssjevot
01/14/21 11:25:46 PM
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butthole666 posted...
Tankies defend this

They also defend outlawing unionization and striking, millionaires and billionaires, working 9 to 9 for 6 days a week, and having to pay up front for health care or not receiving any at all (you don't even get to go into crippling debt, you just get nothing). These people claim to be leftists. It's like that meme where people claim that Nazis were socialist because it's in their name.

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Darmik
01/14/21 11:40:39 PM
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Well that was depressing.

I hope she was able to reunite with her family. It's depressing how cruel people in power can be.

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berlyman101
01/14/21 11:43:40 PM
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viewmaster_pi
01/14/21 11:55:02 PM
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it's really petty and childish to tag users and use this just to start shit

but yeah the CCP is... increasingly problematic. to put it in a way that wouldn't get me arrested or some shit there, lol. they're basically diet north korea, but still want to be able to tell other countries what to do

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s0nicfan
01/15/21 12:05:06 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
it's really petty and childish to tag users and use this just to start shit

but yeah the CCP is... increasingly problematic. to put it in a way that wouldn't get me arrested or some shit there, lol. they're basically diet north korea, but still want to be able to tell other countries what to do

The CCP is Nazi Germany right before they invaded Poland. The whole world knows how fucked up they are, they're literally using an ethnic minority in labor camps, but they have been clever enough and slow enough that people also aren't willing to risk their country over it. Their encroachment in the south China Sea is deliberate, them slowly putting all the port towns in Africa under their control through debt seizure is planned, their deconstruction of Hong Kong was carefully timed, and their border scuffles with India over empty land are shows of power. At this point, they'd have to deliberately fuck up and do something like steamroll over Taiwan and massacre everyone for the rest of the world to muster the energy to care.

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-GalacticBass-
01/15/21 12:15:14 AM
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Absolutely heartbreaking. This is why it is so dangerous to dehumanize an entire group of people. We think we would never commit atrocities like these but when we're brainwashed enough by political propaganda, media, and peer pressure, we have the ability to enforce cruelty on others.

Stay sharp my friends. We are seeing dehumanization happen in the U.S. as well. Leftists calling Republicans rats and vice versa. We need to seek unity and common ground. Our battle is not with each other. Let us be careful to not call people terrorists who are actually not terrorists. Let us look for the good in one another. Be very wary of how the politicians speak of the opposing sides. Be very aware of what language the media uses to get you riled up against one another. These are the stepping stones to atrocities like these.

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pfh1001
01/15/21 12:17:22 AM
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Trumble posted...
Fuck the CCP. Fuck them with a capital F.
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RebelElite791
01/15/21 12:18:19 AM
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-GalacticBass- posted...
Leftists calling Republicans rats
Ah yes, calling fascists by their name is basically the road to genocide. Shut the fuck up with this bad-faith bullshit

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-GalacticBass-
01/15/21 12:20:59 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Ah yes, calling fascists by their name is basically the road to genocide. Shut the fuck up with this bad-faith bullshit

Also be very careful of how you use the word fascist. People throw that word around a lot now and rarely it is used correctly. Dehumanizing a group of people because they have different beliefs than you is a form of fascism. Do not be so filled with hate that you are blind.

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RebelElite791
01/15/21 12:21:57 AM
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Thanks for your input alt

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-GalacticBass-
01/15/21 12:22:59 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Thanks for your input alt

I assure you, I am no alt. But you are very welcome.

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Zikten
01/15/21 12:25:55 AM
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I am convinced there will be war with China this century. It might start with a civil war internally and then outsiders will join in to aid the rebels. Hopefully the CCP falls by the year 2100
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FlameTurtle
01/15/21 8:21:12 PM
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How could anyone possibly defend this

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TrowaBarton7
01/16/21 11:36:52 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Wanna deny this genocide and get warned for the second time this week?

I read the article.

I see nothing about mass deaths.

A genocide implies systematic killings. There is nothing in the article that says Uighurs are being systematically murdered.

If anything, this sounds more similar to the Native American boarding schools: https://www.history.com/news/how-boarding-schools-tried-to-kill-the-indian-through-assimilation

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Reis
01/16/21 11:40:12 PM
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ah yes its CE's other CCP shill
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Vanillalce
01/17/21 12:43:48 AM
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Fun fact: Many North Koreans who make it to China are sold into sex slavery by the Chinese people who catch them.
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Cowthief
01/17/21 12:45:42 AM
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Tag

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1337toothbrush
01/17/21 12:47:10 AM
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Vanillalce posted...
Fun fact: Many North Koreans who make it to China are sold into sex slavery by the Chinese people who catch them.
Make it to China? I thought they were free to travel to China?

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Vanillalce
01/17/21 12:49:01 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...

Make it to China? I thought they were free to travel to China?


https://youtu.be/za34H-dT8I0
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IShall_Run_Amok
01/17/21 12:53:46 AM
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Hey, SMAL's back. Woohoo.

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1337toothbrush
01/17/21 12:56:23 AM
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Vanillalce posted...
https://youtu.be/za34H-dT8I0
Hmm, this is coming from the same channel that has videos such as:
"Former Antifa Activist Reveals Their True Agenda"
and
"Chinas Stealth Control Over Social Justice Movements"

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ssjevot
01/17/21 1:09:23 AM
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TrowaBarton7 posted...
I read the article.

I see nothing about mass deaths.

A genocide implies systematic killings. There is nothing in the article that says Uighurs are being systematically murdered.

If anything, this sounds more similar to the Native American boarding schools: https://www.history.com/news/how-boarding-schools-tried-to-kill-the-indian-through-assimilation

Most people consider those to have been a genocide. Genocide does not require killings. Systematically destroying a culture is a genocide.

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Lorenzo_2003
01/17/21 1:27:47 AM
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Omg, I heard this was a hoax.

We all know China is just running schools where they get to educate the Uyghur people on the glory and joy of being a traditional Chinese and not a Uyghur. Free room and board, plus education sounds great. Did I mention education yet?

(This is sarcasm, for the many sooper geenyuses on CE.)

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teepan95
01/17/21 1:30:46 AM
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This was a difficult read. I didn't manage to get through it all

Thanks for sharing
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MuayThai85
01/17/21 1:56:57 AM
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ssjevot posted...
Most people consider those to have been a genocide. Genocide does not require killings. Systematically destroying a culture is a genocide.

Forced sterilization, abortions, and organ harvesting definitely counts as genocide though.

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deanshow
01/17/21 9:04:09 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
theyre not literally murdering them, just killing their culture and punishing them for trying to retain any identity and watching as they commit suicide

what a high quality defense
I agree with you. How the fuck is that a defense haha

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Trelve
01/17/21 9:06:33 AM
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Not surprising that the resident CCP shill tries to deny and deflect. Genocide denial should be a ban.
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TrowaBarton7
01/17/21 8:12:27 PM
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ssjevot
01/17/21 8:25:53 PM
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Literally who gives a fuck about America and their shitty policies under Trump? How is that in any way related to this? Some other country doing bad things or having done bad things is not justification for it. If you murder someone you can't just tell the court other people have also murdered people as a defense.

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s0nicfan
01/17/21 8:27:46 PM
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ssjevot posted...
Literally who gives a fuck about America and their shitty policies under Trump? How is that in any way related to this? Some other country doing bad things or having done bad things is not justification for it. If you murder someone you can't just tell the court other people have also murdered people as a defense.

Trowa is a CCP shill. Hes trying to derail the topic by making it about america because he can't defend this. He's made that exact post in at least 2 topics.

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Cowthief
01/17/21 8:39:18 PM
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@Shablagoo is what they're saying about you true, man?

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