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bobbaaay
01/11/21 11:56:18 PM
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Is Amityville 2. It's definitely NOT Terminator 2. Terminator 2 is an overblown, big budget, hollow action film that wipes clean the perfect subtlety and tone from the original film - which more strongly resembled a thriller than an action film.

Amityville 2 is so drastically better than the first. The first Amityville film, although being an independent film, was definitely a cash grab based off of the success of the novel. Admittedly the soundtrack was okay, and some of the acting was okay (namely Rod Steiger and James Brolin) - but otherwise the film is just a steaming hot pile of mediocrity. I could attempt to blame its mediocrity on the fact that it's only PG -- but it's actually rated R, and you know what horror/horror-adjacent films WERE PG? Poltergeist, The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane, Return to Oz, Gremlins, Invasion of the Body Snatchers -- films that are all better in literally every single way.

But Amityville 2? Fuck that film is fantastic, aside from the pacing getting weird a little bit in the slow second act. The first half of the film is so gritty. The verbal abuse and violence feels so real and is acted fantastically. The bits with the brother and sister are actually slightly unsettling. The practical effects in the third act were almost on par with all the other Italian horror films in the '80s.
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bobbaaay
01/11/21 11:59:39 PM
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Medussa posted...
Wrath of Khan?

Although my mom's a Trekkie - I personally haven't watched any of the films and don't have an opinion.
I will say, before people bring up Star Wars, the gap in quality between Amityville and Amityville 2 is waaaay larger than the gap in quality between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back.
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Medussa
01/12/21 12:14:43 AM
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bobbaaay posted...
I personally haven't watched any of the films and don't have an opinion.

i deleted hoping to beat getting quoted because i haven't watched the series you mentioned. you put a lot more effort into your post than i did, and i thought you deserved better.

but, now that it's there, i stand by it. it completely outclasses TMP, and i'd argue it's quite a jump over Space Seed, too. so, it's a double, lol.

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Dathrowed1
01/12/21 12:22:05 AM
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I considered the first terminator a sci-fi horror film

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discodancer77
01/12/21 12:22:57 AM
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Chrono Cross is what Chrono Trigger failed to be.

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CE_gonna_CE
01/12/21 12:23:41 AM
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Mr_Karate_II
01/12/21 12:38:25 AM
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T2: Judgment Day is the best sequel.

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Unsugarized_Foo
01/12/21 12:39:19 AM
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Dark Knight

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gamestunner
01/12/21 1:16:30 AM
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Ace ventura comes to mind
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EnvoyOfTheLight
01/12/21 1:17:52 AM
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Street Fighter 2, to such an extent that most people realize they've never even seen the original when this topic comes up.

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pegusus123456
01/12/21 1:21:58 AM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
T2: Judgment Day is the best sequel.
I always think of it as a great movie but a bad sequel. It's definitely better than the first movie, but it also completely destroys the plot of the first movie.

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Middle hope
01/12/21 1:24:26 AM
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Eliza3
01/12/21 1:27:07 AM
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Breath of Fire 2
Suikoden 2
Diablo 2
SW: The Empire Strikes Back
Adams Family Values
Divinity Original Sin 2
DKC2: Diddy's Kong's Quest's
Age of Empires 2
Super Mario RPG 2 (*whispers* it's coming)

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SF_Okami
01/12/21 1:31:19 AM
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Mass Effect 2. I will always say that Mass Effect is a shit game, with a great story. Almost everything else sucks. Mass Effect 2 is a genuinely fantastic game and so is Mass Effect 3 (at least for the first 99% of that game)

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DavidZ2844
01/12/21 1:33:27 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Dark Knight
To me this is the absolute best example of what the topic title describes
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coh
01/12/21 1:34:08 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Dark Knight
Begins was better tho
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IloveJesus
01/12/21 1:35:32 AM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
T2: Judgment Day is the best sequel.

Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Dark Knight

Both good films but neither one is better than the film that came before it.

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SomeLikeItHoth
01/12/21 1:44:28 AM
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Spider-Man 2

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shironinja
01/12/21 1:46:12 AM
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Eliza3 posted...
Super Mario RPG 2

This is enough reason to rise and greet the day.

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scar the 1
01/12/21 1:46:49 AM
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Romancing SaGa 2 and 3. Final Fantasy Legend 2. Mega Man 9.

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IShall_Run_Amok
01/12/21 1:50:09 AM
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Bride of Frankenstein


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bobbaaay
01/12/21 11:56:34 AM
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CE_gonna_CE posted...
Mega Man 2


gamestunner posted...
Ace ventura comes to mind

These are both very, very valid cases
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Unsugarized_Foo
01/12/21 12:16:32 PM
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Sonic 2 was better

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Megaman50100
01/12/21 12:18:06 PM
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Just Cause 2

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Letron_James
01/12/21 12:18:15 PM
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Mgs2
Empire strikes back
Shrek 2

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GameGodOfAll
01/12/21 12:19:04 PM
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Assassin's Creed 2.

Uncharted 2.

Sonic 2.

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V-E-G-Y-
01/12/21 12:21:52 PM
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An_Actual_Chad
01/12/21 12:22:14 PM
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Zelda II...

Lol jk.

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Irony
01/12/21 12:22:36 PM
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Amityville 2 was awful

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littlebro07
01/12/21 12:22:51 PM
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Assassins Creed 2

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NoxObscuras
01/12/21 12:23:01 PM
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Bad Boys 2 was much better than the first movie.

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ZevLoveDOOM
01/12/21 12:23:06 PM
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Jak II
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SuperShake666
01/12/21 12:23:46 PM
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discodancer77 posted...
Chrono Cross is what Chrono Trigger failed to be.

A mediocre game with a pointlessly overly-complicated story?

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coinstarcad
01/12/21 12:24:18 PM
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World War II
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Taharqa_
01/12/21 12:24:28 PM
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Terminator 2
Zone of the Enders 2
Star Ocean:2nd Story


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Srk700
01/12/21 12:27:50 PM
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Soul Calibur (Soul Blade/Edge was the 1st game in the series).

Street Fighter 2
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Trelve
01/12/21 12:40:42 PM
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Aliens
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bobbaaay
01/12/21 12:59:55 PM
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Irony posted...
Amityville 2 was awful

Not even close.
It's literally the only good movie with the word "Amityville" in the name.
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