Current Events > I need to fire my AP accountant

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He is just not good at his job at all and creates more work for me. Not less. I have had multiple talks about him getting his shit figured out and nothing has come from it.

I hate firing people during this time of the year.

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what is an AP accountant?

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Doe posted...

what is an AP accountant?

advanced placement accounting

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Doe posted...

what is an AP accountant?

Accounts payable

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Drpooplol posted...

Accounts payable

Okay but I don't think people hire accountants solely to manage accounts payable? Unless OP is a bigwig cfo lol

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Doe posted...

what is an AP accountant?

Accounts payable accountant.

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He has no attention to detail whatsoever. He regularly makes mistakes on nearly all of his work so everything requires intense supervision for incredibly simple tasks. His communication skills are subpar as well.

He accidentally double paid a vendor by $28,210 because he couldn't follow instructions.

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Smh mods abusing their power in real life

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Ps2Twilight posted...

Smh mods abusing their power in real life

Gosh, I wish I could mod abuse my work problems.

Doe posted...

Okay but I don't think people hire accountants solely to manage accounts payable? Unless OP is a bigwig cfo lol

Controller but having a AP person is pretty normal. Normally it is a simple and often part time job. Which makes this dude's failings so much worse.

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LivingLegend posted...

Were you the one that interviewed and hired him?

Unfortunately yes. Hiring, particularly low-skill positions like this is hard, because things like attention to detail and communication skills don't really show one way or another during an interview and the work is so basic that it is hard to test a person in an interview.

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Compsognathus posted...

Accounts payable accountant.

He has no attention to detail whatsoever. He regularly makes mistakes on nearly all of his work so everything requires intense supervision for incredibly simple tasks. His communication skills are subpar as well.

He accidentally double paid a vendor by $28,210 because he couldn't follow instructions.

He's the cabinet guy from Seinfeld, holy shit.


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I always assumed that the mods didn't have real jobs

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Take'em down.

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At the companies I've worked at, they never give the title of "accountant" to anyone in AP or AR. Always "clerks" or "specialists" for those entry level jobs.

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NightRender posted...

At the companies I've worked at, they never give the title of "accountant" to anyone in AP or AR. Always "clerks" or "specialists" for those entry level jobs.

I worked at a place where the full time AP person was called an accountant. I believe if they record journal entries to the general ledger, that makes them an accountant. A lot of AP clerks probably don't do this.

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EndOfDiscOne posted...

I worked at a place where the full time AP person was called an accountant. I believe if they record journal entries to the general ledger, that makes them an accountant. A lot of AP clerks probably don't do this.

Yeah he has an accounting degree. He could potentially do accounting work. He was supposed to. We just don't trust him too.

Anyway I had an unrelated call with my CEO, I told him that he wasn't working out so he is now definitely getting fired.

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Doe posted...

Okay but I don't think people hire accountants solely to manage accounts payable? Unless OP is a bigwig cfo lol

That's literally what an AP accountant does, though they also have other responsibilities as well.

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Compsognathus posted...

Anyway I had an unrelated call with my CEO, I told him that he wasn't working out so he is now definitely getting fired.

Happy Holidays!

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Prestoff posted...

That's literally what an AP accountant does, though they also have other responsibilities as well.

I see, I'm in business school undergrad and all my financial accounting classes have been very broad with accounts payable being a small piece of the larger balance sheet

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I've always been confused about what my job position is, and I've always felt like I'm maybe being paid way more than what any other company would pay me for what I do. Maybe TC and other accounting people here can read what I do and our accounting setup and explain what I am.

I have a bachelor's in accounting, but no CPA.

It's a small company people wise, with only maybe 20 office people and a warehouse, does about 10 mil a year in sales, give or take. The accounting department has three people, basically. AR, AP, and the Controller. I'm the AR person. There is I feel a perfect amount of work to keep each of us busy for the day without feeling like you should be part time or feeling like you should hire another person.

I do billing, taking shipment BLs and invoicing them in our ERP system, and we actually also use Quickbooks (I know) for our official books, so these invoices are then recorded there. They're sent out to sales assistants who directly deal with the customers. I also receive incoming customer payments and record them and give notice to sales and sales assistants, including checks sent to our office, to our lockbox, ACHs, and both domestic and international wires.

I get daily bank reports and reconcile our many bank accounts every morning, making sure everything matches up correctly, and I go sniff out and investigate any fuckups. I do make journal entries, but just stuff relating to surrounding my main job, so I don't go and deduce they closing adjusting entries or anything, that's done by our Controller or our CPAs we use for tax purposes (although I may physically enter them after they're sent to me via email or something).

I cover for AP whenever she is gone or unable to do something, including all of the responsibilities there. Entering bills, paying bills via cutting checks, making ACHs or wires.

I create open AR reports every Friday and send them out to sales and sales assistants, indicating what accounts are past due and clearing up any other issues. Most times the Controller or GM need reports from our books, they ask me and I make them and send them, for instance, I send the Controller the monthly financial reports and then he prepares them to send to our bank for our borrowing base. Anytime someone needs a report from accounting, basically, they go through me.

We have a yearly big audit, and also a bank exam that is similar to this, and I'm the main point of contact for this. I get them anything I can, whether it be various reports, documents, bank statements, etc. If I can't get it I direct them to who can help.

I file physical documents related to AR (invoices and payments and stuff).

I'm generally the one that investigates general fuck ups that aren't massive, and I talk to our bank representative lady often about these kinds of things. Like if someone sent a wire to our account but we never received it, or our AP lady sent out the wrong amount and we need to fix it, etc.

We use an outside company for payroll, so our accounting department doesn't handle that beyond making sure our payroll account is funded the right amount, or cutting the odd reimbursement check or loan check or something to an employee. I don't do anything with regards to taxes, that's handled by the Controller and the outside CPAs we use.

So...what am I? Am I a bookkeeper? Staff accountant? Clerk? What should I be paid? I feel like I'm paid a lot more than I should be. Let's just say it's inbetween what a bookkeeper should be getting paid, and what a Controller for a small company gets paid.
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