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averagejoel 12/31/20 12:10:30 PM #51:	King_Hutton posted... its always COVxy trying to explain that we cant treat all autistic people as if theyre just quirky jesus fucking christ dude that is not the extent of what he says on the matter --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:948953523] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>King_Hutton posted... </cite> <quote>its always COVxy trying to explain that we cant treat all autistic people as if theyre just quirky</quote>jesus fucking christ dude that is not the extent of what he says on the matter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/31/20 12:13:39 PM #53:	ABA is abuse, and people who are subject to it have significantly higher rates of anxiety and other problems later in life --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:948953616] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>ABA is abuse, and people who are subject to it have significantly higher rates of anxiety and other problems later in life </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/31/20 12:13:47 PM #54:	King_Hutton posted... That sounds stupid, but do you think he hates them because he disagrees with and mischaracterized that? Ive seen the COVxy/joel disputes before and its always COVxy trying to explain that we cant treat all autistic people as if theyre just quirky while joel says hes wrong and that he hates autistic people without any actual coherent thought. Sorry if I was unclear. averagejoel has described behavioral therapy as torture before. Not COVxy. <cite>Esrac posted [p:948953619] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>King_Hutton posted... </cite> <quote>That sounds stupid, but do you think he hates them because he disagrees with and mischaracterized that? Ive seen the COVxy/joel disputes before and its always COVxy trying to explain that we cant treat all autistic people as if theyre just quirky while joel says hes wrong and that he hates autistic people without any actual coherent thought.</quote> Sorry if I was unclear. averagejoel has described behavioral therapy as torture before. Not COVxy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Rian 12/31/20 12:13:58 PM #55:	averagejoel posted... jesus fucking christ dude that is not the extent of what he says on the matter averagejoel posted... can you provide some evidence for your claim? --- Holy crap! How have I not set a signature for the message boards yet? <cite>Mr_Rian posted [p:948953625] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>jesus fucking christ dude that is not the extent of what he says on the matter</quote> averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>can you provide some evidence for your claim?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hutton 12/31/20 12:14:11 PM #56:	COVxy posted... He's referring to joel in that post, not me. Oh my bad. That makes a lot more sense. averagejoel posted... jesus fucking christ dude that is not the extent of what he says on the matter Are you actually going to elaborate or do you expect us to take you at your word when hes explaining himself fully? --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy <cite>King_Hutton posted [p:948953632] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>He's referring to joel in that post, not me.</quote>Oh my bad. That makes a lot more sense. averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>jesus fucking christ dude that is not the extent of what he says on the matter</quote>Are you actually going to elaborate or do you expect us to take you at your word when hes explaining himself fully? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Rian 12/31/20 12:21:16 PM #57:	averagejoel posted... ABA is abuse https://www.autismspeaks.org/applied-behavior-analysis-aba-0 This? --- Holy crap! How have I not set a signature for the message boards yet? <cite>Mr_Rian posted [p:948953882] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>ABA is abuse</quote>https://www.autismspeaks.org/applied-behavior-analysis-aba-0 This? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/31/20 12:28:05 PM #58:	Mr_Rian posted... https://www.autismspeaks.org/applied-behavior-analysis-aba-0 This? Autism Speaks is not a reliable source on this. helping autistic people is not their goal --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:948954098] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Mr_Rian posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.autismspeaks.org/applied-behavior-analysis-aba-0 This?</quote>Autism Speaks is not a reliable source on this. helping autistic people is not their goal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/31/20 12:29:10 PM #59:	Mr_Rian posted... https://www.autismspeaks.org/applied-behavior-analysis-aba-0 This? ABA therapy is basically the standard for treating autistic children, in regard to developmental delays and social skills. If you are someone who thinks autistic people should just be accepted as-is and don't need treatment, then I suppose you would think of it as abusive. <cite>Esrac posted [p:948954136] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Mr_Rian posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.autismspeaks.org/applied-behavior-analysis-aba-0 This?</quote> ABA therapy is basically the standard for treating autistic children, in regard to developmental delays and social skills. If you are someone who thinks autistic people should just be accepted as-is and don't need treatment, then I suppose you would think of it as abusive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hutton 12/31/20 12:30:52 PM #60:	Yeah AS primarily looks out for the parents of autistic people rather than the autistic people themselves. Theyre more of a how to make an autistic person less of a hassle mindset than how to improve autistic lives. --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy <cite>King_Hutton posted [p:948954197] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Yeah AS primarily looks out for the parents of autistic people rather than the autistic people themselves. Theyre more of a how to make an autistic person less of a hassle mindset than how to improve autistic lives. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/31/20 12:41:04 PM #62:	and for the record, I never said that ABA was "torture", though it was invented by a eugenicist and involved heavy use of electroshock therapy. it certainly is abusive though, even without the electroshock therapy part. this page has some useful information on it https://autisticadvocacy.org/about-asan/position-statements/ --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:948954565] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>and for the record, I never said that ABA was "torture", though it was invented by a eugenicist and involved heavy use of electroshock therapy. it certainly is abusive though, even without the electroshock therapy part. this page has some useful information on it https://autisticadvocacy.org/about-asan/position-statements/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Rian 12/31/20 12:41:50 PM #63:	averagejoel posted... Autism Speaks is not a reliable source on this. helping autistic people is not their goal Wasn't using them as a source per se, more like asking if that is what ABA was. I'm not in the field or in the know, so for me ABA is American Basketball Association. And when I googled it American Bar Association were most of my search results. Googling ABA Autism is what lead to this as the first result. --- Holy crap! How have I not set a signature for the message boards yet? <cite>Mr_Rian posted [p:948954592] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>Autism Speaks is not a reliable source on this. helping autistic people is not their goal</quote>Wasn't using them as a source per se, more like asking if that is what ABA was. I'm not in the field or in the know, so for me ABA is American Basketball Association. And when I googled it American Bar Association were most of my search results. Googling ABA Autism is what lead to this as the first result. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
One_Day_Remains 12/31/20 12:43:32 PM #64:	Godnorgosh posted... This seems to imply that everyone on the AS is of a comparable mental age, unless you would like to clarify. That's exactly what that implies Idk why people act confused by the baffled responses to it. We're fully aware it's a spectrum disorder; that's kinda the issue with the statement in the first place --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip <cite>One_Day_Remains posted [p:948954645] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote> This seems to imply that everyone on the AS is of a comparable mental age, unless you would like to clarify. </quote> That's exactly what that implies Idk why people act confused by the baffled responses to it. We're fully aware it's a spectrum disorder; that's kinda the issue with the statement in the first place</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighOnSolar 12/31/20 12:44:27 PM #65:	Godnorgosh posted... This seems to imply that everyone on the AS is of a comparable mental age, unless you would like to clarify. No it doesnt. It seems more like you grasping. --- Surf <cite>HighOnSolar posted [p:948954673] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Godnorgosh posted... </cite> <quote>This seems to imply that everyone on the AS is of a comparable mental age, unless you would like to clarify.</quote>No it doesnt. It seems more like you grasping. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eat More Beef 12/31/20 12:44:33 PM #66:	Bruh. Frankie is fucking hilarious. Sure, he's become a meme of himself but it's still amazing. He was always looking out for me and letting me know when Halifax was gonna get smoked so I could stock up on my doritos, pepsi, and chinese food. --- I wrote a horror short story collection. You can check it out, and other free short stories at http://www.aarondeck.com <cite>Eat More Beef posted [p:948954676] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Bruh. Frankie is fucking hilarious. Sure, he's become a meme of himself but it's still amazing. He was always looking out for me and letting me know when Halifax was gonna get smoked so I could stock up on my doritos, pepsi, and chinese food. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/31/20 12:45:53 PM #67:	Mr_Rian posted... Wasn't using them as a source per se, more like asking if that is what ABA was. I'm not in the field or in the know, so for me ABA is American Basketball Association. And when I googled it American Bar Association were most of my search results. AMA Autism is what lead to this as the first result. I didn't read what they wrote on it, and I don't care to. I do, however, highly recommend the Autistic Self-Advocacy Network, which I linked in post 62 --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:948954710] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Mr_Rian posted... </cite> <quote>Wasn't using them as a source per se, more like asking if that is what ABA was. I'm not in the field or in the know, so for me ABA is American Basketball Association. And when I googled it American Bar Association were most of my search results. AMA Autism is what lead to this as the first result.</quote>I didn't read what they wrote on it, and I don't care to. I do, however, highly recommend the Autistic Self-Advocacy Network, which I linked in post 62 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/31/20 12:46:57 PM #68:	Godnorgosh posted... This seems to imply that everyone on the AS is of a comparable mental age, unless you would like to clarify. No, my statement was simply saying that interacting with people with autism that are more severely developmentally disabled in a way that matches their "mental age" is not infantalizing, despite their literal age. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:948954744] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Godnorgosh posted... </cite> <quote>This seems to imply that everyone on the AS is of a comparable mental age, unless you would like to clarify.</quote> No, my statement was simply saying that interacting with people with autism that are more severely developmentally disabled in a way that matches their "mental age" is not infantalizing, despite their literal age. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 12/31/20 12:50:53 PM #69:	SquirtleSkwad posted... She votes republican for both of them every year. that's bad. if they vote they have a voice not her in voting whichever party they want. but republican's sure do love to screw over the working class :(. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:948954858] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>SquirtleSkwad posted...</cite> <quote>She votes republican for both of them every year.</quote> that's bad. if they vote they have a voice not her in voting whichever party they want. but republican's sure do love to screw over the working class :(.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Rian 12/31/20 12:52:54 PM #70:	<a onclick="return show_quoted_message(400, 79210279, 948954710, '3f25e748');" href="/boards/400-current-events/79210279/948954710">averagejoel posted... </a> I didn't read what they wrote on it, and I don't care to. I do, however, highly recommend the Autistic Self-Advocacy Network, which I linked in post 62 I read what I could on ASAN site, but nothing specific was highlighted. Most I saw was just them saying they were against it. If I wee you I'd at least glance over what AS said, even if to just familiarize yourself with what people you disagree with are saying. It would greatly help you combat their words if you know them and can break them down before they are implemented by others. --- Holy crap! How have I not set a signature for the message boards yet? <cite>Mr_Rian posted [p:948954926] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote><a onclick="return show_quoted_message(400, 79210279, 948954710, '3f25e748');" href="/boards/400-current-events/79210279/948954710">averagejoel posted... </a></cite> <quote>I didn't read what they wrote on it, and I don't care to. I do, however, highly recommend the Autistic Self-Advocacy Network, which I linked in post 62</quote>I read what I could on ASAN site, but nothing specific was highlighted. Most I saw was just them saying they were against it. If I wee you I'd at least glance over what AS said, even if to just familiarize yourself with what people you disagree with are saying. It would greatly help you combat their words if you know them and can break them down before they are implemented by others. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/31/20 1:13:48 PM #71:	Mr_Rian posted... I read what I could on ASAN site, but nothing specific was highlighted. Most I saw was just them saying they were against it. it doesn't need to highlight specifics. it has a very succinct summary of what it does: ABA uses rewards and punishments to train autistic people to act non-autistic. ABA takes different forms, but ultimately that statement applies to all of them. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:948955633] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Mr_Rian posted... </cite> <quote>I read what I could on ASAN site, but nothing specific was highlighted. Most I saw was just them saying they were against it.</quote>it doesn't need to highlight specifics. it has a very succinct summary of what it does: <quote>ABA uses rewards and punishments to train autistic people to act non-autistic.</quote> ABA takes different forms, but ultimately that statement applies to all of them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 12/31/20 1:20:51 PM #72:	Doom_Art posted... amateur weatherman I kinda want to see a video of this --- https://imgur.com/x04tPRZ https://imgur.com/t7T392I <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:948955875] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>amateur weatherman</quote> I kinda want to see a video of this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 12/31/20 1:21:00 PM #73:	Are you upset that people are being nice to someone? I went to his youtube. He does his report and you have a few people saying thank you Frankie for the update. You know how much mean stuff is on the internet. And you are off put by people being nice. --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:948955880] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Are you upset that people are being nice to someone? I went to his youtube. He does his report and you have a few people saying thank you Frankie for the update. You know how much mean stuff is on the internet. And you are off put by people being nice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 12/31/20 1:21:17 PM #74:	Smashingpmkns posted... I kinda want to see a video of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3ViC5rTJfU --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:948955893] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>I kinda want to see a video of this</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3ViC5rTJfU </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/31/20 1:22:08 PM #75:	Smashingpmkns posted... I kinda want to see a video of this he's great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3ViC5rTJfU --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:948955932] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>I kinda want to see a video of this</quote>he's great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3ViC5rTJfU </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 12/31/20 1:25:42 PM #76:	Dang 258k subs. Good for him. --- https://imgur.com/x04tPRZ https://imgur.com/t7T392I <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:948956054] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>Dang 258k subs. Good for him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/31/20 1:27:16 PM #77:	cjsdowg posted... Are you upset that people are being nice to someone? I went to his youtube. He does his report and you have a few people saying thank you Frankie for the update. You know how much mean stuff is on the internet. And you are off put by people being nice. Yeah I mean I watched that video and I don't see why anyone would want to. But I agree with this, it doesn't bother me that other people enjoy it --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:948956108] in The way pe... [t:79210279]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite> <quote>Are you upset that people are being nice to someone? I went to his youtube. He does his report and you have a few people saying thank you Frankie for the update. You know how much mean stuff is on the internet. And you are off put by people being nice.</quote> Yeah I mean I watched that video and I don't see why anyone would want to. But I agree with this, it doesn't bother me that other people enjoy it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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