Current Events > Reminder. That crappy WW84 movie has a 65% on RT

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LOL the audience score is even higher.

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The first one was mediocre at best. I hoped this one would be better, but I'm not surprised it's worse.

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Test audiences said the movie was a step down from the first one.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nco2Pu_FSmE

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pogo_rabid posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nco2Pu_FSmE

Idk how reliable he can be if he thinks Aquaman was decent.

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I just saw it, what a shit movie. For a super hero movie, there were hardly any action scenes and the action scenes were piss poor. Everything else was bad too.

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Wutobliteration posted...

So what exactly was bad about JL apart from critics telling you it's bad becos they hate Snyder?

oh its a Snyder fanboy. No wonder hes melting down.

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Wutobliteration posted...

As if Captain Marvel wasn't an eye-opener already.

Or Ghostbusters.

Or Ocean's 8.

Or Lucy.

Or even the first WW movie.

I could go on and on about this

I think any observant and sensible movie junkie can agree by now how incredibly biased and politically correct RT movie critics are these days.

I'm a big movie buff and I'm pretty sure this thread is full of shit

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To expand upon that; you're alleging that RT critics are biased and/or solely politically correct because "muh womenz" get movies with below average film scores on RTs with mixed results when it comes to audience scores and/or box office performances.

What an insane argument. All of the films you listed have a score below 7.00 on RT lol, except the first Wonder Woman.

Lucy: 6.00

Ocean's 8: 6.3

Ghostbusters: 6.5

Captain Marvel: 6.8

The 1st Wonder Woman film had both positive critic reception and audience reception whereas the above trended towards below average reception from critics to below average-negative audience reception, though Captain Marvel was pretty notably review bombed and broke 1 billion at the box office, so "real" audience reception was likely positive.

We can keep going with this but honestly this shit's tired and embarrassing. It's always people whose cultural grasp of film is just disney/star wars/superhero stuff and nothing else. It's like that dude who had a meltdown over Parasite winning over Joker because all he knows is shootfight movies lmao

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In fact, even WW84 has a 6.3 score, same as Ocean's 8. It actually has a better audience reception than a critical one, so this isn't even a case of critics being ultra disconnected from your typical moviegoer. This thread is just whining about female led movies

fucking embarrassing lmao

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Wutobliteration posted...

So what exactly was bad about JL apart from critics telling you it's bad becos they hate Snyder?

Also, hey, while I'm here, the reason Justice League is bad is because it was a mesh of two different director's ideas. Whedon and Snyder had entirely different ideas on approaching the movie and Whedon was essentially brought on as a fixer for the studio, resulting in a short, incohesive mess that was too inconsistent in tone and ideas from BvS/MoS and too basic in terms of plot/character. Steppenwolf was a CGI mess and was a very poor antagonist, which is something DC usually nails, or at least makes divisive. Multiple character plotlines were cut down significantly, making the film have less depth.

Critics didn't hate it because of Snyder. That's not even a coherent argument since he wasn't the sole director of the project. They didn't like it because it was a mess.

I actually am willing to defend Snyder but JL wasn't entirely his doing which is why a "Snyder Cut" even exists. The fact you don't even know this after the massive media campaign success about it is baffling since you apparently keeps tabs on critic opinions of every female-led movie.

Critics aren't abusing their power. You just don't understand film or film criticism or even basic details of the films you're defending or attacking. Close this abomination of a thread, please god

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Zero_Destroyer posted...

Also, hey, while I'm here, the reason Justice League is bad is because it was a mesh of two different director's ideas. Whedon and Snyder had entirely different ideas on approaching the movie and Whedon was essentially brought on as a fixer for the studio, resulting in a short, incohesive mess that was too inconsistent in tone and ideas from BvS/MoS and too basic in terms of plot/character. Steppenwolf was a CGI mess and was a very poor antagonist, which is something DC usually nails, or at least makes divisive. Multiple character plotlines were cut down significantly, making the film have less depth.

Critics didn't hate it because of Snyder. That's not even a coherent argument since he wasn't the sole director of the project. They didn't like it because it was a mess.

I actually am willing to defend Snyder but JL wasn't entirely his doing which is why a "Snyder Cut" even exists. The fact you don't even know this after the massive media campaign success about it is baffling since you apparently keeps tabs on critic opinions of every female-led movie.

Critics aren't abusing their power. You just don't understand film or film criticism or even basic details of the films you're defending or attacking. Close this abomination of a thread, please god

Whedon was uncredited as director so Snyder got the name for a film he didn't intend to create. Also if you read the critic reviews, they actually reference Snyder a lot more than Whedon

Zero_Destroyer posted...

To expand upon that; you're alleging that RT critics are biased and/or solely politically correct because "muh womenz" get movies with below average film scores on RTs with mixed results when it comes to audience scores and/or box office performances.

What an insane argument. All of the films you listed have a score below 7.00 on RT lol, except the first Wonder Woman.

Lucy: 6.00

Ocean's 8: 6.3

Ghostbusters: 6.5

Captain Marvel: 6.8

The 1st Wonder Woman film had both positive critic reception and audience reception whereas the above trended towards below average reception from critics to below average-negative audience reception, though Captain Marvel was pretty notably review bombed and broke 1 billion at the box office, so "real" audience reception was likely positive.

We can keep going with this but honestly this shit's tired and embarrassing. It's always people whose cultural grasp of film is just disney/star wars/superhero stuff and nothing else. It's like that dude who had a meltdown over Parasite winning over Joker because all he knows is shootfight movies lmao

people look at that big bright red RT score bar unfortunately, not metacritic or the average score. The computation by RT is also shoddily poor because it is just assembled by positive vs negative percentage, not the actual average scores totalled up

If anything, I'm only glad Netflix is taking over through streaming and shutting down the influence of movie critics these days. Now audiences no longer need to google a movie's review score after taking a wait-see approach. They can now easily access any movie they want without barriers

That seems like a perfectly reasonable rating.

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Looked at Captain Marvels user reviews and my god was it review bombed badly.

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As an action movie it did seem super underwhelming at times. I thought Kristen Wiig's character was weird until I found out what she became. I also didn't realize how long it was. Nothing about it felt "sjw" though. I don't get the complaint.

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Wutobliteration posted...

and you people still take movie critics seriously.

Just pluck and put any female actress into a lead role about female empowerment. Boom, instant positive reviews from so much liberal-biased critics

Uh 65% while more positive then negative isn't even that good. That is a D. That means plenty of critics still disliked it. Also those good reviews bring up the movies flaws.

Some people liked the movie and some people did not. You did not like the movie. That is fine. However that doesn't make the opinions of people who liked the movie invalid.

Also the audience score is higher then the critic score.

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I have you tagged as "hates black people"

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i liked it. it's the guardians of the galaxy 2 of the DCEU

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Even the haters can't deny its main theme is godlike

https://youtu.be/BlhLQzV1uPg

for anyone actually taking op seriously he made a thread called "why is there no such thing as an attractive woman who is also smart" a few days ago

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TommyG663513 posted...

I don't entirely disagree, but I don't think the effect is nearly as dramatic as you're saying.

Like I felt that BP deserved an RT score around 80-85%. I only feel RT can prop up a film by 20% at most, but generally only around 10% or so. I don't think they are so biased to give a truly horrible film a 60%.

I mean, A Wrinkle in Time hit all of the "woke" points, but it still got terrible reviews.

Simple the quality of the movie. The tomatoe meter is a percentage based on how many people liked it divided by the total number of reviews. That is all. People won't pretend to like something if it hits "woke points" as one that's not a reason thing and second quality actually matters.

Remember a 97 percent fresh means 97 percent of reviews are positives. Most of those reviews could be B- or C scores and they would still ad to the positive over all.

That isn't even hard to understand and yet people don't get it.

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