Board 8 > Zero Escape people...

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Actually, I just realized that everyone is voiced except the main character, who just gets text beeps. I assume this will be important somehow, though I don't know how.

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Phi: "Zero's explanation was pretty confusing, so let me put it in simple words for you"

*Brings up a diagram of the colors that's much more complicated than Zero's explanation*

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This is super minor, but I really like the ALLY and BETRAY setup where it's just the entire screen.

I also should say that the classic anime-style sprites were better than these 3D models, but eh, it's not a huge deal.

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The Radical-6 virus spreads across the globe, huh, and the WHO is recommending quarantines

Are we SURE the developers of this game don't have actual morphogenetic field powers?

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this game is the best

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I don't think you need to spoiler your own posts! This topic was a call for "Zero Escape people".

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

I don't think you need to spoiler your own posts! This topic was a call for "Zero Escape people".

Honestly, I should have just marked the topic title with a spoiler warning.

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Oh no, Quark has Radical-6

Well, he's the youngest, so it'll probably be okay.

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Oh man, I was just about to post how it was a dirty trick for the game to have Alice betray me when I allied and ally with me when I betrayed, but then Sigma started talking about how this changed from the last time he did this, so okay, I see we're doing the Flowey thing. Although this just makes me curious about how the scene plays out if I'd betrayed first and allied second.

I also enjoy how the game goes into excruciating detail to explain how Alice's vote changed before Sigma's vote changed, as if it's not already obvious that this is strange.

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I still remember that part throwing me for a loop and that was when I knew I was in for a heck of a ride.

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PEBBLES FLINTSTONE

That's who Clover looks like, it's been killing me this entire time.

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I think Zero Escape and Dangan Ronpa are definitely linked - DR is kinda taking the piss out of the genre and Zero Escape was the big game in the genre at the time. and thats why people bring them up when discussing the other.

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"Oh no, Quark has Radical-6" hits differently in 2020

Also I'm very happy that you did cyan first to get that interaction

Phi betrays Luna and Sigma to get her 9 points

Top 10 Anime Betrayals

She complains that I picked betray in the first round 2, which never happened because this is my first round 2 voting, so I can only assume that she's angry about a betrayal I will do later, but man oh man, it's a bit awkward to have that happen when the player hasn't betrayed her yet.

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Went back and betrayed Phi this time, who's upset because she chose ally this time around, and doesn't make a bunch of "I know about psychic timelines or whatever" comments this time, and Sigma's like "lol even I don't know why I hit betray, I guess I was just curious or maybe WHAT IF" but then he's cut off by being killed by Phi I guess.

Jeez, Phi, if you're really that upset over me betraying you in the first round 2, it really feels like you already got your revenge by giving me a bad ending, no need to travel back in time and betray him when I hit ally.

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Wait what the fuck
They changed the final puzzle that was in the DS version? fucking why?

I mean sudoku is pretty much the best possible puzzle in a game that is centered around the theme of the number 9
It was perfect

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Nanis23 posted...

Wait what the fuck
They changed the final puzzle that was in the DS version? fucking why?

I mean sudoku is pretty much the best possible puzzle in a game that is centered around the theme of the number 9
It was perfect

Yes.

And yes.

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The Radical-6 virus spreads across the globe, huh, and the WHO is recommending quarantines

Are we SURE the developers of this game don't have actual morphogenetic field powers?

This was even better for me, because I played VLR in the summer, and I hit the line of Rad-6's death toll being 100,000 right as the US's death toll was at 100,000.

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Phi betrays Luna and Sigma to get her 9 points

Top 10 Anime Betrayals

She complains that I picked betray in the first round 2, which never happened because this is my first round 2 voting, so I can only assume that she's angry about a betrayal I will do later, but man oh man, it's a bit awkward to have that happen when the player hasn't betrayed her yet.

Um, I feel like you might be missing the point of this, lol

oh, nevermind, you clarified more

I do agree that the way they handled betraying Phi there is slightly clumsy

Alice stabbed right through the boob ring. Girl, this is why you should have worn actual clothing.

Got up to the lock on progress of three of Teal Door's routes, and the bad ending of the last route. Although, the Alice death lock said BAD END instead of TO BE CONTINUED like the other ones, so I don't know what's up with that. Regardless, I assume the keys to unlock these routes are in the other first doors' routes, so we'll have to see how that goes.

I guess I should say that this game is more immediately engaging than the first game, though I'll reserve judgment on which is better until I finish, of course.

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I dont know if I should say more than just 'keep your eye on the tree'
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This is like the fourth time I've had to see certain scenes replay, it's kind of annoying.

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If it's actually replaying the same scene for a route, hit the skip button. It will automatically resume as soon as new dialogue has started. Unless you change it in the settings, it will never skip unseen stuff.

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Oh, I'll keep that in mind, thanks. I don't recall seeing it say anything except Stop, which does nothing when I click it, but I'll try that next time around.

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Yeah, there's definitely an option to auto-skip all previously seen dialogue. It'll save you a lot of time.

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I dont really know how far I am in the game, but here are some predictions:

• Alice and Clover are part of that government spy agency mentioned in an archive file I found.
• K is someone from the first game.
• Luna is Zero.
• Everyone is like a consciousness drawn from the morphogenetic field and put into a fake body or whatever, and their memories were erased or implanted or something.

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VLR theories are so much fun. It's part of what makes this game so great.

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Alternatively, K is a robot, since the archives also brought up the Three Laws of Robotics out of nowhere, but I'm still leaning toward someone from the first game.

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Went full monster and betrayed Tenmyouji and Quark to get 9 BP, but the others stopped me and sent Clover through the 9 door anyway. This time, Sigma was way more decisive about his betrayal to reach 9 BP, unlike the previous time, don't know if that's because I betrayed first or if it's because he always is. I should also say that there's a reasonable chance that Sigma is Zero instead of Luna.

I still am not seeing a skip command when I redo old dialogue, by the way.

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You'll just have to hit the right button. Are you playing on Steam?

go to the menu bar on the bottom and click on Stop until it becomes Skip

just make sure you haven't picked the option to skip all text in the options

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I definitely never had an issue skipping until I got to new text

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• Finally got the text skip to work, thank you Leon. This is way nicer.
• Got the Clover ending, where she dumps exposition on you until everyone except K mysteriously commits suicide.
• Did the Ally Tenmyouji route this time. Having his vote change was much less surprising the second time around. I actually thought he might just refuse to betray because it wasn't in-character, but I wasn't too surprised when that didn't happen.

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I also noticed that I haven't been part of a Dio or K group yet, and I bet I can't be part of a Dio or K group when grouping with Luna the first time, so I'm highly suspicious of them just based on that.

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Luna <3

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• Clover mentioned that someone else may be an esper blocking her powers. Obvious options are Sigma and Phi, since they clearly both have time travel powers.
• Tenmyouji implying that the world is destroyed or whatever, hmmmmmm
• Alice gets stabbed through the boob ring yet again! Luna: "We don't even know if she was killed." I mean, okay, Luna, yes, but she's been stabbed through the heart with a scalpel. I feel like there are easier ways to commit suicide.
• So far, in both times the Nine door was opened, Clover was the one to escape. Doubt that's a coincidence.
• Oh damn, I was able to team up with Dio this time around, I'm actually shocked. I guess that wasn't some kind of subtle hint. But I still have never had a chance to team up with K...
• I have four locked routes right now, and have found zero keys to open them, and I think I'm about halfway through all of the initial routes so far.
• One of my longshot ideas is that Zero is a time ghost possessing people and that there is no single Zero like there was in the first game. This would also explain why people always choose the opposite of what I choose.
• K mentioned retaining his humanity, and the archives mentioned the Three Laws of Robotics, Zero Jr proves AI is possible, and he wasn't present when everyone committed suicide. Moderate-to-high chance he's a robot and thus not affected by the morphogenetic field everyone mentions.

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Oh ****, a secret file talking about Radical-6 affecting processing time so time seems slower to you and how it causes you to overload on information and commit suicide. And... info about the Axelavir medicine being made in 2038... Man, this game is not shy about giving out spoilers in the secret files, huh?

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Yeah, make sure you're getting the extra files in each puzzle room because they're important.

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• And K gets into the 9 door, dun dun dun. Guess I was wrong about Clover being the only one.
• Ahhh Luna actually hit ally when I allied, shock of all shocks, even Phi with her time travel powers is surprised.
• Damn, K is selectable as a partner now. Guess I look dumb.
• Yet again, someone stabs Alice through the boob ring. I guess it is sort of like a target, though.
• I'm looking for a way to make a pun of "K" and "betray" and it's just not coming to me. K-tray? Kaytray? Ktray?
• Oh my goddddddddd someone animated K tackling Dio, this is like when 1-5 in Phoenix Wright had an animated video and I couldn't believe how much effort someone had put into making it.
• "Let's leave Dio locked in a pod right next to Quark, who's in a non-locked pod and might wake up at any moment and will have no idea what's going on."
• Wait a second, why did Akane freak out when she found that one guy's body who was dressed up as Snake? I'm sorry that's out of nowhere, but I just realized that she knew everything all along, and this was part of her and Santa's plan. Was she just acting? Because she never acted like that in the other parts.
• So I'm assuming the mother-figure K mentions is the dead old lady.
• A bracelet is destroyed, these things are not as sturdy as Monokuma's e-Handbooks, it seems.
• Sigma's like "Luckily I already unlocked this part of the game, so Anagram doesn't have to start a new path again."
• "I can't save both of them with this injection gun." Dude, are you really more concerned about that than how K is wearing armor? I mean, yes, Sigma EVENTUALLY realizes that, but come on.
• Haha, figuring out the old lady was K's mother wasn't much of a deduction, apparently.
• Sigma removes K's mask to reveal his own face! Dun dun dunnnnnn

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Sigma removes K's mask to reveal his own face! Dun dun dunnnnnn

I love this reveal.

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I'm not even a huge Zero Escape fan and I'm loving this topic, you trying to figure things out while reacting to the big moments is so entertaining

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Just waiting for the rocket horse.

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• Guessing either Sigma or K is probably a clone of the other, probably K of Sigma, since K's father is a geneticist. But I'm going to throw out the possibility of Sigma somehow being K's father, don't ask me how it'll work.
• Going back and doing some lockssss
• First I go and do the lock where Phi betrays me and tries to escape. The power of Latin proverbs forces her to stop.
• Phi, I understand that you need to explain Schrodinger's Cat and the many worlds theory to audience members who have never heard of it before, but turboweebs who play games like Zero Escape are all already familiar with them.
• Phi's like "lol okay so when we leave the facility, our perception of what reality is will change what we find, so this will probably be the end of the game or whatever."
• I'd been waiting for it. There's one important thing that Phoenix Wright and Danganronpa have in common that Zero Escape didn't, until now. But now we finally have it: the main character pointing at someone while lines woosh in the background. Unfortunately, this produces another lock I don't have the key for.
• Next I do the lock where we only have one vial to cure Radical-6, which is one more vial than we have cures for Covid-19.
• "Now that we have two vials to cure this disease, let's not just replicate more just in case, let's just use the two vials we have."
• Oh man, this plot twist where you hit ally because Alice is in the infirmary and can't vote against you, only for her to secretly be in the voting booth and hit betray is great. I knew it was coming because the flowchart ended too abruptly, but if I hadn't been cheating like that, it would have been even better.
• Going back and clicking betray, Alice is like "lol why treat me like the bad guy just because I snuck into a room to secretly betray you so I could kill you to have enough points to bail on everyone else and escape by myself?"
• Okay, I swear I typed the cloning prediction before Alice said the word clone, you're just going to have to trust me on this one.
• "This is like trying to nail Jell-O to a wall." I'm going to say that this is the strangest analogy I've heard all day.
• Look, Alice, I'm willing to accept that you're not an ancient Egyptian queen or whatever, but if that's the case, you're gonna have to explain why you were dressed like a pharaoh at the end of the first game. Do you have an explanation for that? No? No. Well, okay then.
• And another to be continued!
• Currently have two more trees from magenta door I can access without a lock (I'm sure they eventually have locks) and one more tree that appeared after I unlocked it. It actually resulted in another puzzle room, so I put it on pause for a bit. Debating about which of the three routes I want to go with next, I assume the unlocked route will have the most plot revelation stuff, of course.

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The Alice bad ending is so great.

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I love the Alice bad ending, and also (very minor spoilers) the ending you get if you don't give her the correct password, where she induces a game over through sheer disappointment at you

Alice bad ending floored me. Might be the best moment in the game

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Yeah, when the 'betray' came up I like, actually gasped out loud because I wasn't expecting it - even in this game, where I know all sorts of ridiculous twists and turns happened, I actually let out an audible gasp, and then I started laughing because it was so awesome

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Phi, I understand that you need to explain Schrodinger's Cat and the many worlds theory to audience members who have never heard of it before, but turboweebs who play games like Zero Escape are all already familiar with them.

I actually didn't hear about Schrodinger's cat before I played it..somehow

Also there was a story that for like forever I thought was based on a real story but turns out it didn't (Anagram don't read because I am not sure in which game this story appeared)
The story about how someone was hearing the sound of a "blood drop" and died because he thought this is his blood dripping

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