Current Events > Would you be able to mentally handle taking a life in self defense?

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Or would it destroy you on the inside?

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I mean I'd probably feel nothing but that's just cause I don't feel anything at all anyway.

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Guess I wouldn't know until it happened

I'm leaning towards yes

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BloodMoon7 posted...

I mean I'd probably feel nothing but that's just cause I don't feel anything at all anyway.

emotion-less? Noice!

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Smackems posted...

Guess I wouldn't know until it happened

I'm leaning towards yes

true that it is a in the momentary split second decision type thing after all


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Adrenaline takes over. Trust me on this, the vast majority of people who think theyre a no would be a yes in the moment.

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Ving_Rhames posted...

Adrenaline takes over. Trust me on this, the vast majority of people who think theyre a no would be a yes in the moment.

that is pretty deep I think youre right though!

especially when the life of loved ones are on the line in addition to your own

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I think the haunting aspect is overplayed for drama. I'm sure some people are like that, but I think more would be just fine, at least if it were in self-defense. I can tell you I wouldn't be bothered.

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I'm not laying down my own life out of fear of taking another if the need arises.

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Evening_Dragon posted...

I think the haunting aspect is overplayed for drama. I'm sure some people are like that, but I think more would be just fine, at least if it were in self-defense. I can tell you I wouldn't be bothered.

ahh that makes sense, in tv /films it is usually written in the over dramatic sense which are my only experiences as far as that situation goes

and true!


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yunalenne10 posted...

I'm not laying down my own life out of fear of taking another if the need arises.

the way you worded that is logically solid, youre right no body in that moment is actually trying to lay down their own life


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Ving_Rhames posted...

Adrenaline takes over. Trust me on this, the vast majority of people who think theyre a no would be a yes in the moment.

My reaction to danger has always been very minimal. Mostly I can just move faster than normal. Like the time I almost got ran over. My thought process was like "oh they're not slowing down" and that's about it.
>_>

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BloodMoon7 posted...

My reaction to danger has always been very minimal. Mostly I can just move faster than normal. Like the time I almost got ran over. My thought process was like "oh they're not slowing down" and that's about it.
>_>

somebody almost ran you over??? Thats horrible! Did they stop to assist you after or did they just speed off?


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They sped off and that's pretty much the whole story.

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BloodMoon7 posted...

They sped off and that's pretty much the whole story.

dang


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I think it depends on a few things for me. On who died, and how gruesome the death was. Some random drunk hobo that died in a fist fight? Sure. If my brother went crazy and I had to stab him repeatedly to protect myself?

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YugiNoob posted...

I think it depends on a few things for me. On who died, and how gruesome the death was. Some random drunk hobo that died in a fist fight? Sure. If my brother went crazy and I had to stab him repeatedly to protect myself?

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Damn that is pretty true under certain circumstances it could be pretty hard hitting

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I get upset just killing bugs sometimes. I dont think I would be able to handle killing a human. Even if it was necessary. I would do it if I had no choice but it would weigh on my soul.

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yutterh posted...

I get upset just killing bugs sometimes. I dont think I would be able to handle killing a human. Even if it was necessary. I would do it if I had no choice but it would weigh on my soul.

You have a pure soul if you even feel sympathy for insects youve killed on accident/purpose. Thats deep! Like Disney main character defeats a villain but feels bad about it after it deep!

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In self defense? Absolutely.

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In the moment yeah, but it really depends on the circumstances. Either way, I'd likely need help afterwards.

rexcrk posted...

In self defense? Absolutely.

would the feeling of that person being passed away have any traumatic weight on your conscious?

MallyPureSmooth posted...

In the moment yeah, but it really depends on the circumstances. Either way, I'd likely need help afterwards.

that makes an interesting point. Like if any other aspect of the experience could cause ptsd by some combination of the variables Id assume some help would be needed in that case especially.


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greatmonkeybaby posted...

You have a pure soul if you even feel sympathy for insects youve killed on accident/purpose. Thats deep! Like Disney main character defeats a villain but feels bad about it after it deep!

They are jsut trying to live their lives ya know?

I got a couple of stories i can tell ya if you want.

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yutterh posted...

They are jsut trying to live their lives ya know?

I got a couple of stories i can tell ya if you want.

That is true our intervention in even their lives is a trip

and sure, Im all ears

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i want to say yeah but like, who knows even
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greatmonkeybaby posted...

would the feeling of that person being passed away have any traumatic weight on your conscious?

I cant say for sure, honestly, but I feel like my thoughts would lean more towards welp, they shouldnt have tried to [however harm] me, and if I didnt do anything, *Id* be dead / hurt / whatever.

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Well first one is my grandma's story she told me. She used to have this roach that would pop up on the counter every now and then. She would give him a little food and he would take it then go home. She talk to him and stuff tell him he is fine as long as he doesnt have a family. Well a few days or weeks pass. And one day she opens a drawer that he would go into, in the back of the drawer was a group of roaches bundled in the corner. So of course she killed him and his family befor they could take over the house. But the story shows that he was just trying to feed his family. Kind of hit home and changed my view on bugs in general. She had a lot of views about the universe and life and how GOD made it all in a beautiful way. Really opened my mind.

So now onto my story. Short prologue, I took my xbox to a friends house which was infested with roaches and they hijacked my xbox. So I ended up bringing some home with me. Well one of them was a gold coated roach. I went to go stomp it one day and stopped short. As I went rah and it scurried away. Well I would fake stomp it and it ended up not running anymore. One day too get back at me, I was eating in my room and in between me eating and watching something on my computer it jul on my fork and I jsut noticed it before eating it lol so I jumped and screamed and it ran away. Took it as it playing with me and trying to freak me out. I jsut imagined it saying "hi" then laughing manically as it scurried away lol. Well the roaches never left my room and they also jsut stayed in my electronics. Well eventually we moved to my uncles house and they became a problem. My uncle told me I had to kill them. So one time I was in my room crying cause I kind of grown attached to goldy. Well goldy went to go see what was wrong and got on a night stand so I could see it. Like it just wanted dme to know that it was there. So I went to go smash it and stopped before I did. Goldy never ran away. But I had to so u pulled it together and then time smashed it, only smashed the bottom half as it started running around in pain from my failed assassination. Then I smashed it multiple times. Cried really hard after and I still do sometimes when I think about it. I could ahve jsut taken goldy outside and down the street or something. Instead I chose to kill a insect that built a relationship with me and trusted me.

So long story short, I feel they can learn and build relationships. They understand to an extent and can feel empathy. So now I try my best to take bugs outside if I can, if they keep coming back I jsut kill them. But I do feel bad about it everytime.

Sorry for the TL:DR

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I think the way I would deal with it would really depend on who/what/where/why etc...


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CelestialVoices posted...

i want to say yeah but like, who knows even

yeah true that, who knows until it actually happens

rexcrk posted...

I cant say for sure, honestly, but I feel like my thoughts would lean more towards welp, they shouldnt have tried to [however harm] me, and if I didnt do anything, *Id* be dead / hurt / whatever.

thats pretty logically sound tbh, youre right!

yutterh posted...

Well first one is my grandma's story she told me. She used to have this roach that would pop up on the counter every now and then. She would give him a little food and he would take it then go home. She talk to him and stuff tell him he is fine as long as he doesnt have a family. Well a few days or weeks pass. And one day she opens a drawer that he would go into, in the back of the drawer was a group of roaches bundled in the corner. So of course she killed him and his family befor they could take over the house. But the story shows that he was just trying to feed his family. Kind of hit home and changed my view on bugs in general. She had a lot of views about the universe and life and how GOD made it all in a beautiful way. Really opened my mind.

So now onto my story. Short prologue, I took my xbox to a friends house which was infested with roaches and they hijacked my xbox. So I ended up bringing some home with me. Well one of them was a gold coated roach. I went to go stomp it one day and stopped short. As I went rah and it scurried away. Well I would fake stomp it and it ended up not running anymore. One day too get back at me, I was eating in my room and in between me eating and watching something on my computer it jul on my fork and I jsut noticed it before eating it lol so I jumped and screamed and it ran away. Took it as it playing with me and trying to freak me out. I jsut imagined it saying "hi" then laughing manically as it scurried away lol. Well the roaches never left my room and they also jsut stayed in my electronics. Well eventually we moved to my uncles house and they became a problem. My uncle told me I had to kill them. So one time I was in my room crying cause I kind of grown attached to goldy. Well goldy went to go see what was wrong and got on a night stand so I could see it. Like it just wanted dme to know that it was there. So I went to go smash it and stopped before I did. Goldy never ran away. But I had to so u pulled it together and then time smashed it, only smashed the bottom half as it started running around in pain from my failed assassination. Then I smashed it multiple times. Cried really hard after and I still do sometimes when I think about it. I could ahve jsut taken goldy outside and down the street or something. Instead I chose to kill a insect that built a relationship with me and trusted me.

So long story short, I feel they can learn and build relationships. They understand to an extent and can feel empathy. So now I try my best to take bugs outside if I can, if they keep coming back I jsut kill them. But I do feel bad about it everytime.

Sorry for the TL:DR

dang when you put it that way I feel bad for killing all these spiders that keep coming in to my room. After all google did say the winter weather usually provokes them to make their way inside


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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

I think the way I would deal with it would really depend on who/what/where/why etc...

ahh perspectives and circumstances make the complete experience

truth!

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greatmonkeybaby posted...

yeah true that, who knows until it actually happens

thats pretty logically sound tbh, youre right!

dang when you put it that way I feel bad for killing all these spiders that keep coming in to my room. After all google did say the winter weather usually provokes them to make their way inside

If you think about it. Back in the day insects would live in caves where animals dwelled. We just live in fancy caves now but they are still basically caves.

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Speaking of bugs I've been making a habit not to smash them anymore, I felt really bad when I realize how I would feel if someone smashed me and I'm trying to live life. The only time I have to do something with a bug if it was very poisonous and there is no safe way to remove it from the house or if there is a infestation of Roaches which can ravage a house.

But back on topic.

If I was put into that situation it might scar me for life.

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Absolutely. Ive been in armed robberies twice where i was more than willing to kill the aggressor. I dont think i would have shed a single tear for those lowlifes.

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yutterh posted...

If you think about it. Back in the day insects would live in caves where animals dwelled. We just live in fancy caves now but they are still basically caves.

thats a trip lol! In that sense its just natural instinct to enter the cave like structures still

Kaliesto posted...

Speaking of bugs I've been making a habit not to smash them anymore, I felt really bad when I realize how I would feel if someone smashed me and I'm trying to live life. The only time I have to do something with a bug if it was very poisonous and there is no safe way to remove it from the house or if there is a infestation of Roaches which can ravage a house.

But back on topic.

If I was put into that situation it might scar me for life.

dang from that perspective I should just have them re located outside then instead lol!

and for real?


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Kaliesto posted...

Speaking of bugs I've been making a habit not to smash them anymore, I felt really bad when I realize how I would feel if someone smashed me and I'm trying to live life. The only time I have to do something with a bug if it was very poisonous and there is no safe way to remove it from the house or if there is a infestation of Roaches which can ravage a house.

But back on topic.

If I was put into that situation it might scar me for life.

That's another thing I think about too.

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I've taken a few defensive pistol and rifle courses in my younger years, so without a doubt yes, I'm pretty sure it'd scar me.

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I'm shocked and appalled by all the people posting and saying yes. Whether it's the right thing or not to take the person's life to not find it greatly distressing is cold and fucked up.

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yutterh posted...

That's another thing I think about too.

yeah its pretty deep
I think that philosophy may be imbedded in some aspects of horror in which humans encounters with aliens or higher beings reduces us to the insects(or simply the preys) perspective

Malcrasternus posted...

I've taken a few defensive pistol and rifle courses in my younger years, so without a doubt yes, I'm pretty sure it'd scar me.

interesting perspective! Actually experiencing the preparation for that sort situation would ideally make one think about it differently

ghostblob posted...

I'm shocked and appalled by all the people posting and saying yes. Whether it's the right thing or not to take the person's life to not find it greatly distressing is cold and fucked up.

after so many responses like that I figured it could be the same view that gifts police officers the survival instinct they have when encountering armed criminals; being that not many are mentally built for that situation but I get what you mean though


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ghostblob posted...

I'm shocked and appalled by all the people posting and saying yes. Whether it's the right thing or not to take the person's life to not find it greatly distressing is cold and fucked up.

now that I think about it, I wonder how honorable people like the American native Indians mentally handled the self defense scenario after being forced to protect themselves

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greatmonkeybaby posted...

now that I think about it, I wonder how honorable people like the American native Indians mentally handled the self defense scenario after being forced to protect themselves

I reckon they simply have a different way to view life and death and different ways to view something like an afterlife >_>

Ive thought about the whole Batman kills joker thing but idk theres some truth in that for me <_<

I also thought of how accepting I would have to be to just roll over and die, but if no one does that well

I guess someone would have to get that ball rolling and I guess all my beliefs are centered around that so Ill probably have to take one for the team unless it puts someone I know and care about in immediate danger

also

Merry Christmas

It's okay. I'm already destroyed inside, so it could do no harm.

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FrankJaegr posted...

I reckon they simply have a different way to view life and death and different ways to view something like an afterlife >_>

Ive thought about the whole Batman kills joker thing but idk theres some truth in that for me <_<

I also thought of how accepting I would have to be to just roll over and die, but if no one does that well

I guess someone would have to get that ball rolling and I guess all my beliefs are centered around that so Ill probably have to take one for the team unless it puts someone I know and care about in immediate danger

also

Merry Christmas

whats the Batman/Joker thing? Like as in how Batman chooses the laws justice system over just ending Jokers life?

and Merry Christmas to you as well! hope its a great one!

TerraSeeker posted...

It's okay. I'm already destroyed inside, so it could do no harm.

Dang. Did something happen to you that was like, life changing in a negative way?


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It would just tear me up to take someones life, and if you believe that one Ill tell you another.

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Absolutely.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

It would just tear me up to take someones life, and if you believe that one Ill tell you another.

:o

I see

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Vicious_Dios posted...

Absolutely.

No sympathy for the bad guy type thing?


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Do Christian people consider the self defense scenario as murder/breaking the commandment?

like does thou shall not kill apply to that? Or is it typically viewed that God lets that situation slide?

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Easily.

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Kimbos_Egg posted...

Easily.

dang, by easily like you wouldnt even miss a meal that night? Or just *shrug, bad guy had it coming* easily?

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Anyone who forces me to kill them is not someone id lose sleep over.

If i had to kill, say, a bunch of innocent people id feel bad.

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