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Antifar
12/22/20 11:58:56 AM
#102:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
I mean with how progressive this board acts, I wouldnt think they'd have a problem with this since people claim its just another 'legitimate' job. The fathers shouldn't be bothered right?

The line is that it should be treated as legitimate, not that it currently is. Arguing against a stigma doesn't entail pretending the stigma doesn't currently exist.

To make an imperfect analogy: you can say gay and trans people should be accepted without endorsing strangers outing teens to their parents.
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David1988
12/22/20 12:01:16 PM
#104:


Antifar posted...
The line is that it should be treated as legitimate, not that it currently is. Arguing against a stigma doesn't entail pretending the stigma doesn't currently exist.

How do progressives think sex work will be destigmatized if we support people hiding the truth about their sex work? The only way to fight stigma is to be truthful and own what youre doing without shame

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Socrawheeze
12/22/20 12:03:50 PM
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David1988 posted...
How do progressives think sex work will be destigmatized if we support people hiding the truth about their sex work? The only way to fight stigma is to be truthful and own what youre doing without shame

He's showing parents pictures of their naked children
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CruelBuffalo
12/22/20 12:03:59 PM
#107:


David1988 posted...


How do progressives think sex work will be destigmatized if we support people hiding the truth about their sex work? The only way to fight stigma is to be truthful and own what youre doing without shame


A parent is often proud of their son or daughters husband/wife. They dont want to hear how they have sex.

A mom can be proud her son is a detective , she doesnt want to see a mutilated corpse he is investigating
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Tenlaar
12/22/20 12:05:16 PM
#109:


CruelBuffalo posted...
I get what Balrog is saying. Many (including me) want criminal justice reform but will revert to THROW THE BOOK AT EM! when an act is committed that we dont like.

Hard to square a way in generalities....

That said this guy is a douchebag and anyone applauding or laughing about this is likely a hypocritical loser. Unless you abstain from any and all porn youre a POS for applauding this.
No part of wanting criminal justice reform implies thinking that things like sexual harassment shouldn't be illegal. That's just nonsense.
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Tenlaar
12/22/20 12:06:42 PM
#110:


David1988 posted...
How do progressives think sex work will be destigmatized if we support people hiding the truth about their sex work?
This was not a guy sending message informing people of the existence of an account on that site. This was literally "SURPRISE! You just looked at your naked daughter getting plowed!"
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CruelBuffalo
12/22/20 12:07:07 PM
#111:


Tenlaar posted...

No part of wanting criminal justice reform implies thinking that things like sexual harassment shouldn't be illegal. That's just nonsense.


Shouldnt the goal be to rehabilitate someone so they understand how this was wrong so they dont do it anymore?
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g0ldie
12/22/20 12:07:27 PM
#112:


the dude from the OP is definitely a piece of shit.

he doesn't know the why the women are pursuing sex work, how their relationships with their family are, or how revealing their sex work might affect those relationships.

but even if he did, it's not his place to mess with people's lives like that.

the only situations where I'd support it is if the young woman was underage, and/or there was reason to believe something else illegal was going on (trafficking, abuse, coercion/force, etc.), but in cases like those, you should contact law enforcement instead.

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Antifar
12/22/20 12:08:30 PM
#113:


David1988 posted...
How do progressives think sex work will be destigmatized if we support people hiding the truth about their sex work? The only way to fight stigma is to be truthful and own what youre doing

Is that what's happening here? Even if you believe what you're saying, that's not a truth for strangers to unveil.
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Tenlaar
12/22/20 12:08:31 PM
#114:


CruelBuffalo posted...
Shouldnt the goal be to rehabilitate someone so they understand how this was wrong so they dont do it anymore?
Yes, the goal of the criminal justice system should be reform and rehabilitation. Again, that in no way means that things like sexual harassment shouldn't be crimes, so what is your point?
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Collat
12/22/20 12:10:00 PM
#115:


David1988 posted...
I doubt their fathers care very much
They probably care more that some dickhead is trying to make them look at their own naked kids.
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WingsOfGood
12/22/20 12:11:08 PM
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Btw

How is this topic still up?

Is it ok to refer to that site if we only use the initials?

Thought any reference to said site was deleted on gamefaqs.
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Gwynevere
12/22/20 12:12:04 PM
#117:


I dunno about jail but that guy definitely deserves an ass beating

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Balrog0
12/22/20 12:17:32 PM
#118:


I'm pretty sure no one who is saying this should be illegal is thinking this guy should get therapy. I hope I'm wrong

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Hippocrates
12/22/20 12:18:09 PM
#119:


I just want to exist some form of consequences for this
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Tenlaar
12/22/20 12:22:05 PM
#120:


Balrog0 posted...
I'm pretty sure no one who is saying this should be illegal is thinking this guy should get therapy. I hope I'm wrong
It's hard to really judge because I don't know the scope of his actions. This is not a one time thing but a serial sexual harasser. A jail sentence could be reasonable, or probation and strict monitoring for internet activity while undergoing counseling could be.
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masticatingman
12/22/20 12:23:04 PM
#121:


David1988 posted...
How do progressives think sex work will be destigmatized if we support people hiding the truth about their sex work? The only way to fight stigma is to be truthful and own what youre doing without shame
Sex work will likely always be stigmatized societally. Cant exactly picture parents proudly telling their friends that their son/daughter is a sex worker. Legal or not.

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Kolibri X
12/22/20 12:24:29 PM
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This should be a common sense thing and a life lesson. Don't willingly put naked pictures of yourself on the internet if you don't want people to see them. There's vindictive people out there.

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Tenlaar
12/22/20 12:28:26 PM
#125:


Kolibri X posted...
This should be a common sense thing and a life lesson. Don't willingly put naked pictures of yourself on the internet if you don't want people to see them. There's vindictive people out there.
I tend to think that "don't be a creepy piece of shit trying to impose your morality through targeted serial sexual harassment" should be the takeaway here.
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PlsGodDontBanMe
12/22/20 12:30:05 PM
#126:


shockthemonkey posted...
Well thats gross and pathetic


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Unsugarized_Foo
12/22/20 12:35:41 PM
#127:


How many years of his life will this cost him?

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harley2280
12/22/20 12:38:57 PM
#128:


Why am I not surprised to find the incels of CE defending this.

On top of it being slut shaming sending a dad a naked photo of his daughter is just slimy. No Dad wants to see his grown daughter completely naked.
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superman 2000
12/22/20 1:04:36 PM
#129:


Only a bitter loser with too much time on their hands would do something like this. People like him deserve to be doxxed.

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thronedfire2
12/22/20 1:05:42 PM
#130:


Guy is probably a tadamoto that gets rejected by sex workers with that attitude

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LordMarshal
12/22/20 1:07:52 PM
#131:


Kolibri X posted...
This should be a common sense thing and a life lesson. Don't willingly put naked pictures of yourself on the internet if you don't want people to see them. There's vindictive people out there.

Lol. Like seriously.

If youre embarrassed about your work. Dont do it.

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Try_Another___
12/22/20 1:09:15 PM
#132:


LordMarshal posted...
Lol. Like seriously.

If youre embarrassed about your work. Dont do it.



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Sad_Face
12/22/20 1:10:19 PM
#133:


I don't want to live in a world where if I have a daughter whose circle of friends use a site to sell photos of themselves in their birthday suits or are even open to the idea, she'll feel pressured to do the same since it's easy extra money.

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thronedfire2
12/22/20 1:11:05 PM
#134:


Sad_Face posted...
I don't want to live in a world where if I have a daughter whose circle of friends use a site to sell photos of themselves in their birthday suits or are even open to the idea, she'll feel pressured to do the same since it's easy extra money.

well I hope you dont live in a world where webcams exist either

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LordMarshal
12/22/20 1:11:28 PM
#135:


Look, im a respectable serious sex worker. I work in sex. Dont let my parents know!

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Tenlaar
12/22/20 1:11:47 PM
#136:


LordMarshal posted...
Lol. Like seriously.

If youre embarrassed about your work. Dont do it.
Being embarrassed about sex work and not wanting somebody to trick your father into seeing you doing sex work are not remotely the same thing, for fucks sake.
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LordMarshal
12/22/20 1:12:51 PM
#137:


Tenlaar posted...
Being embarrassed about sex work and not wanting somebody to trick your father into seeing you doing sex work are not remotely the same thing, for fucks sake.

Why would they even care if they know thats your job?

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Tenlaar
12/22/20 1:14:52 PM
#138:


LordMarshal posted...
Why would they even care if they know thats your job?
People know their kids have sex, that doesn't mean any party involved wants them to see it or it's okay for somebody to trick them into seeing it. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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BlackJackCat
12/22/20 1:17:26 PM
#140:


LordMarshal posted...
Why would they even care if they know thats your job?

Some people, believe it not, come from a family that frowns upon sexual activity for money. Now, of course one could say "why do they care what others thinks?" and I would generally agree, but for some reason there are people who like not feeling ostracized by their family.

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LordMarshal
12/22/20 1:18:07 PM
#141:


Tenlaar posted...
People know their kids have sex, that doesn't mean any party involved wants them to see it or it's okay for somebody to trick them into seeing it. What the fuck is wrong with you?

Ok, if someone sends a photo of me naked to my mom. If im a sex worker I didnt do this on my own accord i know this is probably bound to happen. Im a lil embarrassed cause of the situation but my mom would delete it and wed just move on.

Because its a respectable line of work.

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im not 13
12/22/20 1:18:43 PM
#142:


BlackJackCat posted...
Some people, believe it not, come from a family that frowns upon sexual activity for money. Now, of course one could say "why do they care what others thinks?" and I would generally agree, but for some reason there are people who like not feeling ostracized by their family.

If they cared that much they would pick another profession


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CADE FOSTER
12/22/20 1:20:13 PM
#144:


Such an asshat thing to do literally have nothing better to do
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im not 13
12/22/20 1:20:33 PM
#145:


The guys an asshole but these chicks make millions a month

Sorry if I don't feel super bad for them

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superman 2000
12/22/20 1:26:25 PM
#146:


LordMarshal posted...
Lol. Like seriously.

If youre embarrassed about your work. Dont do it.

They're only embarrassed because society needlessly shames them about it. It's no different than being closeted gay before society became more accepting of homosexuality, even though there was never anything wrong with gayness to begin with.

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Sad_Face
12/22/20 1:28:01 PM
#147:


thronedfire2 posted...
well I hope you dont live in a world where webcams exist either

False equivalency. The options had existed but were never on the scale that it is now thanks to X site. Said site is exploding in popularity where people are using it for the electronic equivalent of prostitution. We even have a politician condoning this. If I raise a daughter, I want her to value herself, her own body to more than a $10 a month subscription and be willing to take on honest work, take risks, and be creative to get to where she wants to be. Not take the easy way out with the oldest profession in the world. Is this too much to ask for?

I busted my tail taking on odd jobs and missed opportunities and gained others because I wanted to hold myself to a standard. Thanks to this, I've gotten opportunities of a lifetime that I'll be sure that (in a universe where this happens) my great great great grandkids will know about. How would I instill these values in my daughter if society is blasting tunes that contradict my values?

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Hippocrates
12/22/20 1:29:10 PM
#148:


Sad_Face posted...
I busted my tail taking on odd jobs and missed opportunities and gained others because I wanted to hold myself to a standard. Thanks to this, I've gotten opportunities of a lifetime that I'll be sure that (in a universe where this happens) my great great great grandkids will know about. How would I instill these values in my daughter if society is blasting tunes that contradict my values?
You could always join some cultish commune or something
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Dreepapult
12/22/20 1:30:30 PM
#149:


Antifar posted...
If you're going to be mean for the sake of being mean, direct your cruelty towards those who actually deserve it.
Agreed
Dude should harass Bitch Mcconnell instead. Someone like that.


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superman 2000
12/22/20 1:37:54 PM
#150:


Sad_Face posted...
False equivalency. The options had existed but were never on the scale that it is now thanks to X site. Said site is exploding in popularity where people are using it for the electronic equivalent of prostitution. We even have a politician condoning this. If I raise a daughter, I want her to value herself, her own body to more than a $10 a month subscription and be willing to take on honest work, take risks, and be creative to get to where she wants to be. Not take the easy way out with the oldest profession in the world. Is this too much to ask for?

Your daughter can be ambitious and a sex worker at the same time. The two aren't mutually exclusive. You can encourage your daughter to aim higher than sex work without instilling in her the notion that sex work is self-disrespectful.

I busted my tail taking on odd jobs and missed opportunities and gained others because I wanted to hold myself to a standard. Thanks to this, I've gotten opportunities of a lifetime that I'll be sure that (in a universe where this happens) my great great great grandkids will know about. How would I instill these values in my daughter if society is blasting tunes that contradict my values?

Is society contradicting your values by simply saying that sex work shouldn't be looked down upon? Again, you can encourage your daughter to aim higher than sex work without teaching her that sex work is vile.


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im not 13
12/22/20 1:43:38 PM
#151:


superman 2000 posted...
You can encourage your daughter to aim higher than sex work without instilling in her the notion that sex work is self-disrespectful.

So where does sex work rank in your list of respectful work? People look at Doctors and hold them to a high esteeme right? Since they have to study for so long to literally save peoples lives

Can you honestly say if you had a choice of what your child would grow up to be you would pick a sex worker over a doctor ?

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