Board 8 > Devotion announced, and then immediately unannounced, for rerelease on GOG

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https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/16/22178225/red-candle-games-devotion-censored-steam-release-gog-date

https://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/1339227388438306817

This is that acclaimed Taiwanese horror game that was pulled by the dev from Steam after severe backlash when it was discovered there was an anti-China easter egg. GOG is citing similar backlash as a reason but uh...seems a little sus to have happened so fast.

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Heard about this it really god damn blows.

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CD Projekt Red really doing a number on themselves recently!

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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

CD Projekt Red really doing a number on themselves recently!

I think this is higher up the chain than CDPR, who are just the development studio, but yes CD Projekt as a whole is basically setting their whole shit on fire

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fair, next

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DeepsPraw posted...

fair, next

Yeahbutwhat?
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I think this is higher up the chain than CDPR, who are just the development studio, but yes CD Projekt as a whole is basically setting their whole shit on fire

Most people use CDPR to refer to both.

Also fuck them for rejecting this.
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CDPR definitely quickly becoming just another shitty big publisher that gets more afraid the bigger they get.

Truly ironic given their origins.

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This is a real gut punch after nearly two years since it was pulled from Steam. Chinese nationalists suck but CDP looks really shit right now for kowtowing within hours on this.

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Mac Arrowny posted...

Most people use CDPR to refer to both.

I'm aware, and I did too, but I've also seen people talking recently about how it isn't accurate so I was briefly pointing it out. It's like "Bioware" vs "EA." Cyberpunk is a mess for a lot of reasons but this is squarely on business management.

Anyways don't let this semantic argument distract anyone from the fact that capitalism is trash

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I'm aware, and I did too, but I've also seen people talking recently about how it isn't accurate so I was briefly pointing it out. It's like "Bioware" vs "EA." Cyberpunk is a mess for a lot of reasons but this is squarely on business management.

Anyways don't let this semantic argument distract anyone from the fact that capitalism is trash

oh even Cyberpunk I pretty much put squarely on higher ups and marketing

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https://twitter.com/harddrivemag/status/1339272070216249347?s=21
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htaeD posted...

Yeahbutwhat

deepspraw hates the independent nations that china has claim over

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What is wrong with you

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why are so many people eager to dive directly under the soles of xi jinping's boots and start licking

UshiromiyaEva posted...

What is wrong with you

They've achieved the moral philosophy I had when I was about 7 or 8: if a consequence is warned or expected, then the responsibility of the situation falls squarely on the person reacting to the warning. For example, if I say "don't look at me or i'll slap you" and my brother looks at me, he is solely to blame for the consequence of getting punched. After all, he knew that'd be the result, and he did it anyway! I don't make the rules*, I just enforce them

*also i made the rules
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Paratroopa1 posted...

why are so many people eager to dive directly under the soles of xi jinping's boots and start licking

I mean

There might be honey on them
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Jakyl25 posted...

I mean

There might be honey on them

Oh bother

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Wow... This is fucked up...

Jakyl25 posted...

I mean

There might be honey on them

This is an underrated post.

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there still no legal way to play Devotion?
i quite liked Detention so have always wanted to play it.

China's strangehold on the world is quite shocking honestly. Shows that the Nazi's biggest problem, apart from the genocide and general evilness, was that they entered the scene a century too early. If it happened right now countries would be all like "but let's remember the corporate interests and business opportunities and growth potential" and then turn a blind eye and do nothing.

Guiga becoming a China apologist is an interesting strategy to remain relevant as a troll

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Djungelurban posted...

China's strangehold on the world is quite shocking honestly. Shows that the Nazi's biggest problem, apart from the genocide and general evilness, was that they entered the scene a century too early. If it happened right now countries would be all like "but let's remember the corporate interests and business opportunities and growth potential" and then turn a blind eye and do nothing.

I mean they tried appeasement and turning a blind eye to Nazi Germany at first too

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Djungelurban posted...

China's strangehold on the world is quite shocking honestly. Shows that the Nazi's biggest problem, apart from the genocide and general evilness, was that they entered the scene a century too early. If it happened right now countries would be all like "but let's remember the corporate interests and business opportunities and growth potential" and then turn a blind eye and do nothing.

Setting aside the hotness of this take, turning a blind eye was literally the response to Germany annexing multiple other countries before Poland forced action.

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Leonhart4 posted...

I mean they tried appeasement and turning a blind eye to Nazi Germany at first too

Somehow I kinda doubt that China annexing Poland would generate much in a way of response though. There would be a strong condemnation for sure, which is the equivalent of telling Charles Manson he's a naughty boy who did a naughty thing and you're very disappointed in him, but it would probably end there. Maybe some trade sanctions too, which later would be quietly lifted as soon as the public has found something new to be upset about. If I was in Taiwan I'd be seriously worried by now...

Djungelurban posted...

China's strangehold on the world is quite shocking honestly. Shows that the Nazi's biggest problem, apart from the genocide and general evilness, was that they entered the scene a century too early. If it happened right now countries would be all like "but let's remember the corporate interests and business opportunities and growth potential" and then turn a blind eye and do nothing.

i mean china is legitimately modern day nazi germany right now and the attitudes we give them are the same the world gave germany at the time. genocide, check, along with a couple other massacres on the side. general evilness, check. turning a blind eye as land grabs are occurring, check and it's on multiple fronts including our allies too. biggest difference here is that they're better at playing politics, using our weaknesses against us better, and put their propaganda globally.

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You know what they say. You gotta lower your ideals of freedom if you wanna suck on the warm teat of China.

Reminder that one of the key points that Nixon apologists use to claim he wasnt that bad of a President was his normalization of US relations with mainland China.

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Djungelurban posted...

Somehow I kinda doubt that China annexing Poland would generate much in a way of response though.

well, if it's territory stuff right now we've got... 1) fully taking Hong Kong and putting it under their rule, violating treaties before; 2) they claim almost everything in the south china sea along with a couple other islands which directly impacts Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, the Philippines and is a trade route worth trillions alone and ruled against in international court which they ignore anyway; 3) current skirmishes on India's borders which they claim to be their own, with them using microwave weapons because technically it's not a firearm so it won't start a hot war with India as it keeps to the wording on there being no bullets.

and yes, Taiwan knows they're fucked, which is why they have to heavily insist on being known as a separate entity as that makes them last a little bit longer.


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Djungelurban posted...

Somehow I kinda doubt that China annexing Poland would generate much in a way of response though. There would be a strong condemnation for sure, which is the equivalent of telling Charles Manson he's a naughty boy who did a naughty thing and you're very disappointed in him, but it would probably end there. Maybe some trade sanctions too, which later would be quietly lifted as soon as the public has found something new to be upset about. If I was in Taiwan I'd be seriously worried by now...

You really don't have to act like world politics were uniquely better in the past, dude.

And we also have more direct parallels than China here - Russia annexed Crimea earlier this decade and India annexed Kashmir a year ago and have basically recieved the blind eye you are talking about.

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They're a publicly-traded company, this fate (pursuing money at the expense of literally everything else) was inevitable. It's what the shareholders demand.

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Wanglicious posted...

i mean china is legitimately modern day nazi germany right now and the attitudes we give them are the same the world gave germany at the time. genocide, check, along with a couple other massacres on the side. general evilness, check. turning a blind eye as land grabs are occurring, check and it's on multiple fronts including our allies too. biggest difference here is that they're better at playing politics, using our weaknesses against us better, and put their propaganda globally.

The only difference is that no nation would officially declare a 100% guarantee any other nations sovereignty at this point. An all out war with a superpower like China would be WAY too costly in every way imaginable and that's pretty much what China's betting on. And since that's not an option, cutting all economic ties is the best nations can do and then, unless the response is truly global, you and your businesses are gonna be at a huge disadvantage compared businesses in other countries. Which would result in your businesses lobbying hard for you to lift those sanctions ASAP. Meaning that there's no response that any nation may be willing to make that is impactful enough for China to reconsider their behavior. Heck, all of the western world could put up a united front against China and China would still be fine for the foreseeable future seeing how they already got most of Africa in their pocket.

agreed there. also good reminder that they've also colonized africa, yeah. forgot to include that in their land grabbing.


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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

You really don't have to act like world politics were uniquely better in the past, dude.

Well, atleast in the past a war with Germany wouldn't threaten billions of dollars in trade with Germany. There just wasn't much international trade going on, compared to now atleast.
And also there's the fact that, you know, there was a war in the end. UK and France guaranteed the independence of Poland and when Germany entered Poland they felt forced to honor that guarantee... Somehow I don't see a scenario where that outcome would be replicated... Like what would China have to do for the west to decide that had have to act strongly towards China? Annex Taiwan? Mongolia? North Korea? South Korea? When is the limit reached? Is there a limit? And what would the response be? Would it actually be strong enough that it would force China to care? I highly doubt that...

Djungelurban posted...

Well, atleast in the past a war with Germany wouldn't threaten billions of dollars in trade with Germany. There just wasn't much international trade going on, compared to now atleast.
And also there's the fact that, you know, there was a war in the end. UK and France guaranteed the independence of Poland and when Germany entered Poland they felt forced to honor that guarantee... Somehow I don't see a scenario where that outcome would be replicated... Like what would China have to do for the west to decide that had have to act strongly towards China? Annex Taiwan? Mongolia? North Korea? South Korea? When is the limit reached? Is there a limit? And what would the response be? Would it actually be strong enough that it would force China to care? I highly doubt that...

i dunno man, nuclear mutually assured destruction seems like something any world government would care about

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Not_an_Owl posted...

i dunno man, nuclear mutually assured destruction seems like something any world government would care about

We already have that, and China is acting the way it is despite the threat of mutually assured destruction. They're already not caring about that.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Anyways don't let this semantic argument distract anyone from the fact that capitalism is trash

World largest communist government blocks video game

gamers: "why did capitalism do that"

redrocket posted...

Reminder that one of the key points that Nixon apologists use to claim he wasnt that bad of a President was his normalization of US relations with mainland China.

I mean we did bring a level of capitalism to China and probably prevented the starvation of literal billions and increased the standard of living for the nation, so it was probably a good move in retrospect. We just had about several thousand bad moves after that.


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SantaRPidgey posted...

World largest communist government blocks video game

gamers: "why did capitalism do that"

Are they really communists in the year 2020? Or are they fascists paying lip service to communism out of social inertia?


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functionally the difference between communism and fascism is pretty small so both.


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SantaRPidgey posted...

World largest communist government blocks video game

gamers: "why did capitalism do that"

how did china block the game?
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redrocket posted...

Are they really communists in the year 2020? Or are they fascists paying lip service to communism out of social inertia?

spoilers communism has always been fascism

NFUN posted...

how did china block the game?

The reason people bend a knee in this specific way is that china can with a flip of a switch completely block an industry/company from their gigantic population. If China was a free market where global ideas were made or broken based on their own merit there wouldn't be even a little problem.

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SantaRPidgey posted...

The reason people bend a knee in this specific way is that china can with a flip of a switch completely block an industry/company from their gigantic population. If China was a free market where global ideas were made or broken based on their own merit there wouldn't be even a little problem.

so what you're saying is, true capitalism has never been tried

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SantaRPidgey posted...

The reason people bend a knee in this specific way is that china can with a flip of a switch completely block an industry/company from their gigantic population. If China was a free market where global ideas were made or broken based on their own merit there wouldn't be even a little problem.

so what you're saying is, capitalism is half the problem
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

so what you're saying is, true capitalism has never been tried

That's very funny, but true capitalism can exist in smaller markets so yes it has been used and been met with success as opposed to communism which can only exist under a broad and powerful government (which can't exist without corruption)

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