Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 504: Death of WWE

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Eddv
12/28/20 6:52:50 AM
#151:


Having a chance to reflect on it I wanna discuss the broader point from the Mitchell article.

Even if Brody's death is coincidental to covid, shouldn't the death of a beloved wrestler cause AEW (and WWE and everyone else) to rethink their current covid strategy? Shouldn't experiencing this sort of loss drive home the potential cost of staying the course even if, again, Brodies issues werent actually covid related at all?

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Tom Bombadil
12/28/20 10:14:55 AM
#152:


If they didn't think of that before, I'm not sure why they would now.

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Eddv
12/28/20 11:12:27 AM
#153:


Because a man that they all loved has died?

And they maybe dont want to risk that happening again and having it be their fault?

Of something that, even if it wasnt covid, was similar enough that it had to be called out as a non-covid version of what covid does to people?


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Jakyl25
12/28/20 1:44:04 PM
#154:


TheRock1525 posted...

I mean it's not a potential team. It's literally happening right now. I think they just lost to the Hurt Business or something.


Have they already called them that? I admit its a good one
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Jakyl25
12/28/20 1:45:57 PM
#155:


Eddv posted...
Having a chance to reflect on it I wanna discuss the broader point from the Mitchell article.

Even if Brody's death is coincidental to covid, shouldn't the death of a beloved wrestler cause AEW (and WWE and everyone else) to rethink their current covid strategy?

Shouldn't experiencing this sort of loss drive home the potential cost of staying the course even if, again, Brodies issues werent actually covid related at all? We just witnessed a man go from his physical prime to dead, brought low by the very sorts of thing this disease does to your body. Like if I were the talent I would be...less than excited to go to work this week to put it mildly.


I honestly wonder what changed about WWE COVID protocol to get people like Roman and Sami to come back, or if anything actually changed at all
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PrivateBiscuit1
12/28/20 1:58:05 PM
#156:


Weren't they doing the same thing that AEW was doing where everyone had to be tested immediately to even be allowed with everyone else at the tapings?

Also, BTE was all interviews with people and clips from Brodie Lee on the show, if anyone wants to check it out. It was a nice watch and reminded me how absolutely hilarious he was on top of everything else.

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/28/20 7:18:00 PM
#157:


This is the best thing they could do on Dynamite I think.

https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1343691866835980292?s=19

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TheRock1525
12/28/20 8:07:24 PM
#158:


Jakyl25 posted...
Have they already called them that? I admit its a good one
The recaps I've read have said it but I'm not sure if it's been said on TV.

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MikeTavish
12/28/20 9:31:01 PM
#159:


TheRock1525 posted...
The recaps I've read have said it but I'm not sure if it's been said on TV.

It's been said on TV a bunch, yeah.

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ZeroSignal620
12/28/20 11:02:55 PM
#160:


Miz reclaims Money in the Bank briefcase tonight from Adam Pearce, as a result of John Morrison attempting to cash in for Miz at TLC.

Calling it now, Miz wins title at Royal Rumble

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TheRock1525
12/28/20 11:20:01 PM
#161:


So apparently the end of the show was Randy Orton dousing Alexa Bliss in gasoline and threatening to set her on fire, and Alexa being okay with this because "she wants to see him again."

And the show literally faded out with Orton holding the match.

Remember when WWE had Becky Lynch, Charlotte Flair, and Ronda Rousey arrested for, essentially, fighting too much?

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TheRock1525
12/29/20 2:49:48 AM
#162:


So the Brodie Lee tributes on RAW tonight were:

The standard graphic.
Tom Phillips and DREW MAC going "It's Monday. You know what that means."
Xavier Woods doing a discuss clothesline while doing the Harper/Brodie taunt and Phillips going "Yeah, yeah yeah!"
Ricochet doing a discuss clothesline, too.


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Maniac64
12/29/20 8:19:08 AM
#163:


That's more than I expected. Good on them.

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Steiner
12/29/20 9:15:22 AM
#164:


TheRock1525 posted...
So the Brodie Lee tributes on RAW tonight were:

The standard graphic.
Tom Phillips and DREW MAC going "It's Monday. You know what that means."
Xavier Woods doing a discuss clothesline while doing the Harper/Brodie taunt and Phillips going "Yeah, yeah yeah!"
Ricochet doing a discuss clothesline, too.

i think you missed alexa also doing "yeah yeah yeah"

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Eddv
12/29/20 9:34:42 AM
#165:


Got lost in the shuffle of her possibly being burned at the stake

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Jakyl25
12/29/20 9:41:35 AM
#166:


ZeroSignal620 posted...
Miz reclaims Money in the Bank briefcase tonight from Adam Pearce, as a result of John Morrison attempting to cash in for Miz at TLC.

Calling it now, Miz wins title at Royal Rumble


So was Miz never officially in that match in hindsight then? Lol
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Jakyl25
12/29/20 9:49:34 AM
#167:


TheRock1525 posted...

Remember when WWE had Becky Lynch, Charlotte Flair, and Ronda Rousey arrested for, essentially, fighting too much?


The Trump administration remembers

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2020/10/30/wwe-ronda-rousey-arrest-trump-administration
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TheRock1525
12/29/20 5:34:56 PM
#168:


Maniac64 posted...
That's more than I expected. Good on them.
They also filmed interviews that could be used in a video package, though no one is for sure.

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Jakyl25
12/29/20 5:35:02 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1
12/29/20 7:24:02 PM
#170:


Bruce Mitchell out of the Torch. Good riddance, especially after he doubled down and refused to apologize.

https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1344074773245157378?s=19

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scarletspeed7
12/29/20 7:42:17 PM
#171:


Man, Randy Orton's tribute to Brodie Lee was surprisingly moving.

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Jakyl25
12/30/20 4:26:14 PM
#172:


https://twitter.com/tripleh/status/1344393307812732930?s=21

Final episode?? Well thats one way to steal attention from AEW
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ScareChan
12/30/20 4:28:28 PM
#173:


let's not put "of the year" on there

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TheRock1525
12/30/20 5:09:55 PM
#174:


In a month where that dastardly Randy Orton literally murdered a man in the middle of the ring, Johnny Gargano may have topped him last week.

He gave Indi Hartwell an empty PS5 box.

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Jakyl25
12/30/20 7:35:15 PM
#175:


Yeah but she got the family nickname!
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Fastbreak
12/30/20 7:46:39 PM
#176:


So Aew signed little Brodie to a legit contract with an opportunity for him to work when he comes of age

Good on them I think

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TheRock1525
12/30/20 8:14:05 PM
#177:


If it's a paid contract then its above and beyond what they needed to do.

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Pikazard1
12/30/20 10:06:06 PM
#178:


for those of you on facebook, i'm sure you can track this down proper. but the following is borrowed from a friends postings

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On What Happened When With Tony Schiavone, Tony Schiavone revealed that Brodie Lee Jr. officially signed with AEW & will wrestle for them when he's of age.
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Knowing that Brodie was very sick and knowing it was holiday time, and I guess knowing that for him to kick out, it was going to be, I dont want to say a miracle, but it was going to be very difficult to kick out, they had brought little Brodie to TV and wrestling is his life. He is eight years old. He really is a great kid. They made him a member of The Dark Order. They put a mask on him. He came out with a kendo stick. He beat up a lot of people.
This of course was at a TV taping with nobody in the audience. They signed him to a contract. They legitimately signed him to a contract and when he gets of age, he will be with AEW.
When we do TV tapings now, we will have a live show or a taped show, Dynamite, and then we will have sometimes 13 dark matches. We are there until 2 am sometimes. I was sitting back there with Amanda when Dark was going on and she said, Im dead tired. I need to get back and get some sleep but he (Brodie Jr) just loves this so much, Im going to wait. So, she waits until it is all over and he gets involved with the guys and sits in the gorilla position.
He sometimes comes out with a mask on and does some crazy things. It just shows you how the roster loved Brodie and how we are family." - Yaz

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TheRock1525
12/30/20 10:24:22 PM
#179:


So they awarded Brodie Jr the TNT championship for life, and apparently they're going to retire the title going forward.

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Maniac64
12/30/20 11:12:42 PM
#180:


TheRock1525 posted...
So they awarded Brodie Jr the TNT championship for life, and apparently they're going to retire the title going forward.
That seems a bit much. I assume we are getting a new title to replace it? Maybe they just meant they are retiring that specific belt?

Overall I loved the tribute show though. So good and great on AEW for doing it when they previously had a big show planned and advertised.

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TheRock1525
12/30/20 11:16:53 PM
#181:


I was actually told that the title belt was being retired, as in the design. Brodie Jr. loved to sleep with it when Brodie had the title, so they're letting him have that belt and they'll bring out a new design.

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ninkendo
12/30/20 11:17:44 PM
#182:


Maniac64 posted...
That seems a bit much. I assume we are getting a new title to replace it? Maybe they just meant they are retiring that specific belt?

Overall I loved the tribute show though. So good and great on AEW for doing it when they previously had a big show planned and advertised.
Tony clarified it was just the current design being retired

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TheRock1525
12/30/20 11:18:29 PM
#183:


It's also pretty powerful to see WWE wrestlers on AEW like Becky Lynch, Big E and Bray Wyatt via pictures. I assume since they're private photos they didn't have to get their permission to use them, and I hope WWE doesn't WWE things and pitch a fit about their WWE tag titles being on AEW.

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Whiskey_Nick
12/30/20 11:22:12 PM
#184:


I like to think WWE was gonna do a tribute and AEW or the family asked them to wait so they could first.

I am probably giving WWE too much credit

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TheRock1525
12/30/20 11:46:45 PM
#185:


Whiskey_Nick posted...
I like to think WWE was gonna do a tribute and AEW or the family asked them to wait so they could first.

I am probably giving WWE too much credit

On one hand, you probably are.

On the other hand, it would have came off as slightly opportunistic to do a tribute show to a guy who was so miserable with your company he asked for his release and hadn't worked there in over a year.

Of course they are supposedly doing interviews and a video package, so I have no idea if it's gonna be on Smackdown or the network or YouTube or whatever.

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Jakyl25
12/31/20 1:31:07 AM
#186:


TheRock1525 posted...
So they awarded Brodie Jr the TNT championship for life, and apparently they're going to retire the title going forward.

Fastbreak posted...
So Aew signed little Brodie to a legit contract with an opportunity for him to work when he comes of age

Good on them I think


Now thats what I call long term booking
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Jakyl25
12/31/20 1:32:47 AM
#187:


I dont really understand what it means to sign an 8 year old to a contract though

That sounds exploitative
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WarThaNemesis2
12/31/20 1:39:24 AM
#188:


Jakyl25 posted...
I dont really understand what it means to sign an 8 year old to a contract though

That sounds exploitative

It provides an excuse to give money to Brodie's family for the next X years.

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paulg235
12/31/20 1:41:22 AM
#189:


The contract is probably just to pay off the rest off whatever was left in Brodie Lee's original contract prior to his passing and to give his son the chance to get trained there if he's still interested when he grows up.

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Jakyl25
12/31/20 1:43:51 AM
#190:


I just worry that hes now contractually obligated to AEW if he wants to be a wrestler as an adult due to something he signed when he was 8 <_<
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paulg235
12/31/20 2:01:05 AM
#191:


I really doubt they would do something that scummy. Like, would that even hold 10-15 years from now?

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Jakyl25
12/31/20 2:33:24 AM
#192:


I hope not, but theyre a wrestling promotion. Theyre all that scummy.
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scarletspeed7
12/31/20 3:23:51 AM
#193:


I truly don't believe that.

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TheRock1525
12/31/20 3:27:33 AM
#194:


I mean, my default assumption is that all billionaires are scum (accumulating that much wealth is scummy as fuck) so at the very least they're ran by the son of a scummy dude.

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/31/20 11:50:57 AM
#195:


I haven't had a chance to see the Dynamite show last night, but I feel like from the response and snippets I did see it's difficult for me to describe AEW as "scummy". Maybe young and dumb, but I don't know how you'd think that when Brodie Jr. is of age after that show they're forcing him to do anything he doesn't actually want to do.

Also, Tony Schiavone mentioned him doing backstage stuff too and he already "helps out" in the back (obviously whatever little dumb probably pointless tasks they could give a cute kid).

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Eddv
12/31/20 12:08:29 PM
#196:


We have some Bruce Mitchell style brain worms crawling around Jakyls head.

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Jakyl25
12/31/20 12:14:35 PM
#197:


Just asking questions
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ShatteredElysium
12/31/20 12:15:16 PM
#198:


It's bold of you to assume wrestling will still be around in the same capacity when he's of age
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Jakyl25
12/31/20 12:17:13 PM
#199:


There will always be marks, so there will always be carnies
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Whiskey_Nick
12/31/20 12:31:43 PM
#200:


TheRock1525 posted...
On one hand, you probably are.

On the other hand, it would have came off as slightly opportunistic to do a tribute show to a guy who was so miserable with your company he asked for his release and hadn't worked there in over a year.

Of course they are supposedly doing interviews and a video package, so I have no idea if it's gonna be on Smackdown or the network or YouTube or whatever.
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1344684259911544834

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