Current Events > WSJ attacks Dr. Jill Biden for using the Dr. title, rambles sexist nonsense

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Phynaster
12/14/20 5:08:37 PM
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-there-a-doctor-in-the-white-house-not-if-you-need-an-m-d-11607727380

Worth noting that A) They've never had an issue with calling Henry fuckhead Kissinger that, and B) the title originates in the academy, not the medical profession

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TheBlueMonk_
12/14/20 5:09:42 PM
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no hes right

just called my cardiologist. asked him if he ever delivered a baby. he told me no! WHAT A HACK! A CROOK! A STOOGE!

hes no doctor!

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COVxy
12/14/20 5:10:30 PM
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There's already been several topics on this.

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Phynaster
12/14/20 5:11:28 PM
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https://twitter.com/davidgura/status/1337982875413729280

Epstein's former employer laying down the SMACK

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Phynaster
12/14/20 5:11:53 PM
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COVxy posted...
There's already been several topics on this.
Okay, well I searched and didn't see any and I wasn't on CE this weekend so :shrug:

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Gwynevere
12/14/20 5:13:09 PM
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"The Ph.D. may once have held prestige, but that has been diminished by the erosion of seriousness and the relaxation of standards in university education generally, at any rate outside the sciences."

If I could roll my eyes any harder, they'd probably detach entirely and roll across the floor

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DeadBankerDream
12/14/20 5:13:45 PM
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Why is it 'an' M.D. and not a M.D.?
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Hexenherz
12/14/20 5:14:40 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
"The Ph.D. may once have held prestige, but that has been diminished by the erosion of seriousness and the relaxation of standards in university education generally, at any rate outside the sciences."

If I could roll my eyes any harder, they'd probably detach entirely and roll across the floor
are phd's the new high school diploma?

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Phynaster
12/14/20 5:15:08 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
"The Ph.D. may once have held prestige, but that has been diminished by the erosion of seriousness and the relaxation of standards in university education generally, at any rate outside the sciences."

If I could roll my eyes any harder, they'd probably detach entirely and roll across the floor
lmao pretty much

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DeadBankerDream
12/14/20 5:18:19 PM
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What's the vowel sound in Medical or Doctorate?
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Phynaster
12/14/20 5:19:06 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
What's the vowel sound in Medical or Doctorate?
is the first sound in "MD" so........

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DeadBankerDream
12/14/20 5:20:10 PM
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But MD is just shorthand?

Like, I'm genuinely asking here cause I was confuzzled.

The author is a petty penis-stain. Not trying to defend him or anything.
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Phynaster
12/14/20 5:21:09 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
But MD is just shorthand?
Cool, but you say "md," so i'm not sure what your point is.

If you see "NASA" do you say "National Aeronautics and Space Administration"?

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ScazarMeltex
12/14/20 5:24:29 PM
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I feel like the fact that he calls her kiddo tells us everything we need to know about his mentality.

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Phynaster
12/14/20 5:25:01 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
I feel like the fact that he calls her kiddo tells us everything we need to know about his mentality.
I mean yeah, right off the bat

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Kastrada
12/14/20 5:25:13 PM
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Phynaster posted...
If you see "NASA" do you say "National Aeronautics and Space Administration"?

Who in their right mind DOESN'T say "National Aeronautics and Space Administration"?

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Phynaster
12/14/20 5:26:41 PM
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nemu
12/14/20 5:30:59 PM
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There's definitely some pretentious nonsense around the idea of being a doctor, but that article exponentially passed that level of pretentiousness.
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Phynaster
12/14/20 5:31:31 PM
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nemu posted...
There's definitely some pretentious nonsense around the idea of being a doctor
Please do elaborate

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nemu
12/14/20 5:42:22 PM
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Phynaster posted...
Please do elaborate
The kind of people who get insulted if you fail to use their title in casual conversation. Those who treat it as if they're part of their own class of people despite the qualifications ranging from easy (relative to the other end of the spectrum) to lifelong commitment to study. I've had the unfortunate pleasure of meeting one such person.
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Bananana
12/14/20 5:46:28 PM
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nemu posted...
easy
lol

i dont disagree with the majority of your post, but there is not a doctorate degree thats easy, even if it requires what some random guy may consider less work than another

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Questionmarktarius
12/14/20 5:53:23 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
"The Ph.D. may once have held prestige, but that has been diminished by the erosion of seriousness and the relaxation of standards in university education generally, at any rate outside the sciences."


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Phynaster
12/14/20 5:54:07 PM
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nemu posted...
get insulted if you fail to use their title in casual conversation.
This is really not a thing

nemu posted...
ranging from easy
I'd love for you to give an example of an easy PhD

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nemu
12/14/20 6:11:52 PM
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Phynaster posted...
This is really not a thing

I'd love for you to give an example of an easy PhD
You've seriously never met someone overly pretentious about honorifics? And why do people always ignore "relative" in these cases? The point is not all PhDs are equal in difficulty, so it's not even an instant mark of respect.
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Phynaster
12/14/20 6:13:26 PM
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nemu posted...
You've seriously never met someone overly pretentious about honorifics? And why do people always ignore "relative" in these cases? The point is not all PhDs are equal in difficulty, so it's not even an instant mark of respect.
Nope.

Again. Give examples of "relatively easy" PhDs.

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COVxy
12/14/20 6:16:11 PM
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I'm pretty sure most people have no idea what goes into getting a PhD. Tbh, I have no idea what really goes into getting a nonscience PhD, as someone who has a PhD.

Though, I did know some history grad students, and they read a whole hell of a lot more than I did.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
12/14/20 6:25:42 PM
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Phynaster posted...
Nope.

Again. Give examples of "relatively easy" PhDs.

Relative to engineering, I would say a PhD in education is pretty fuckin easy

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Phynaster
12/14/20 6:39:29 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Relative to engineering, I would say a PhD in education is pretty fuckin easy
You know nothing about either field, fuck off.

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Shadowplay
12/14/20 6:43:19 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Relative to engineering, I would say a PhD in education is pretty fuckin easy
Are people ever going to stop with this fallacy that qualitative = easy and quantitative = hard?

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AzurexNightmare
12/14/20 6:43:49 PM
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Weekly Shonen Jump?

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Phynaster
12/14/20 6:44:09 PM
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Shadowplay posted...
Are people ever going to stop with this fallacy that qualitative = easy and quantitative = hard?
Doubtful. Least of all STEMbeards or worse, people with no STEM background who idolize it nevertheless (like Angels)

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Tyranthraxus
12/14/20 6:45:04 PM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
Weekly Shonen Jump?

Next issue Naruto vs Jill Biden

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Tyranthraxus
12/14/20 6:45:36 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Relative to engineering, I would say a PhD in education is pretty fuckin easy

Post your degrees in both lol

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Bubbagump
12/14/20 6:58:57 PM
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As someone with a PhD in history, getting a PhD in ANY discipline is insanely hard. About half of all people pursuing a PhD drop out. The academic demand, and the demands on your time, finances, and overall mental-well being are crazy. You don't just get to waltz into a PhD program and graduate. You work closely with your advisor and your committee to produce a scholarly work that brings something new and thought-provoking to the field of study. To complete a PhD program, you need to take the number of hours of coursework, pass a foreign language requirement, pass your comps (all-day multi-day exams making sure you know everything about everything in your field), and THEN you get to research and write about what new thing you are researching. Then comes the dissertation defense where your committee grills you on your work, and pokes as many holes as they can in your scholarship. If you had an ego before, it quickly gets eviscerated by your committee. And there is no guarantee you pass. And if you fail multiple times, or take too long, you get kicked out. And while doing all of this, you are expected to publish, be a TA or RA, and have a mountain of assignments you need to complete simultaneously ensuring your own work gets done in time. So no, getting any kind of PhD is not easy. This guy is a major jerk.

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