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SaccharineSmile
12/02/20 6:07:42 PM
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I hate people like this

you wont even last 1 day in any another non-western first world country

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pure_temper
12/02/20 6:08:08 PM
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You can enjoy where you live and take issue with its current economic model of choice. A place is more than just economics.

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Blue_Dream87
12/02/20 6:08:22 PM
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This is like, the worst argument

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DDirtyDastard
12/02/20 6:09:47 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
This is like, the worst argument

Elaborate
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Romulox28
12/02/20 6:09:56 PM
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what annoys me sometimes is when you see someone go on about how they hate capitalism but their complaints are all about things that arent inherent to the system, they just dont like that stuff costs money

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Southernfatman
12/02/20 6:11:20 PM
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TheLiarParadox
12/02/20 6:14:13 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
what annoys me sometimes is when you see someone go on about how they hate capitalism but their complaints are all about things that arent inherent to the system, they just dont like that stuff costs money
What kind of stuff are we talking about?

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nemu
12/02/20 6:15:10 PM
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There's "I dislike the greedier side of capitalism and we need some major reforms in practices and taxes" and there's "I'm about as much of a literal communist as possible, capitalism sucks no matter the form." Against the former, it's a stupid comment, but it's sensible in the latter case. It's like the 9/11 conspiracy theory nutballs. If you seriously think the government murdered its citizens part of a grand plot, why are you still here?
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Master_Bass
12/02/20 6:19:09 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
what annoys me sometimes is when you see someone go on about how they hate capitalism but their complaints are all about things that arent inherent to the system, they just dont like that stuff costs money
You know that some strains of socialism want to eliminate money, right?

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gunplagirl
12/02/20 6:19:42 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
This but replace "I am very intelligent" with "I have many rare Funko pops"

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s0nicfan
12/02/20 6:19:44 PM
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Southernfatman posted...



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SaccharineSmile
12/02/20 6:20:47 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
This is like, the worst argument


how so?

people hate capitalism because they feel ripped-off because they dont have the newest iPhone or a yacht

oh and that their highly skilled job they should be getting paid money because the company makes billions a year

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Squall28
12/02/20 6:21:30 PM
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Southernfatman posted...

How does hating capitalism translate to "we should improve society somewhat."

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Veggeta X
12/02/20 6:21:47 PM
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It's always one extreme or the other. Can there ever be a middle ground?

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pure_temper
12/02/20 6:24:56 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
You know that some strains of socialism want to eliminate money, right?

This is incorrect. What you're thinking of is communism, not socialism. Unless you're considering communism to be a strain of socialism, but that may be incorrectly too. Under socialism you can still have private property and a free market, and individuals are compensated relative to their contributions to the economy.

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ThyCorndog
12/02/20 6:26:02 PM
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remember the smirking conservatives that were going "and yet you use corporation made cell phones and clothes" to the occupy wall street people as if they had some sort of point?

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SaccharineSmile
12/02/20 6:28:17 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
remember the smirking conservatives that were going "and yet you use corporation made cell phones and clothes" to the occupy wall street people as if they had some sort of point?


it was a great point

So many people are walking contradictions

if youre going to fight for something, then do it right

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pure_temper
12/02/20 6:29:13 PM
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Is TC smart enough and honest enough to admit that you can buy a cell phone and modern clothes and still want to improve society?

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The Trent
12/02/20 6:30:11 PM
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what are modern clothes?

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ThyCorndog
12/02/20 6:31:31 PM
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SaccharineSmile posted...
it was a great point

So many people are walking contradictions

if youre going to fight for something, then do it right

Southernfatman posted...

TC is the guy in the well

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SaccharineSmile
12/02/20 6:31:33 PM
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pure_temper posted...
Is TC smart enough and honest enough to admit that you can buy a cell phone and modern clothes and still want to improve society?


the slaves they use in 3rd world countries to make my clothes and phones is just horrible!!!

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pure_temper
12/02/20 6:41:18 PM
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SaccharineSmile posted...
the slaves they use in 3rd world countries to make my clothes and phones is just horrible!!!

What?

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Beemo_Season11
12/02/20 6:41:55 PM
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They should move to Venezuela
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Master_Bass
12/02/20 6:44:37 PM
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pure_temper posted...
This is incorrect. What you're thinking of is communism, not socialism. Unless you're considering communism to be a strain of socialism, but that may be incorrectly too. Under socialism you can still have private property and a free market, and individuals are compensated relative to their contributions to the economy.
There's many different ideas about how socialism may look like, and no socialist wants private property to continue. You're thinking of personal property. You're right that some socialists call for a market based socialism, though.

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Delirious_Beard
12/02/20 6:53:28 PM
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"I hate CAPITALISM!!!" - but still LOVES living in AMERICA

fixed the title for you Sacchy

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Cheater87
12/02/20 6:54:01 PM
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Capitalism isn't a law in the US, it can change.

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pure_temper
12/02/20 6:59:52 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
There's many different ideas about how socialism may look like, and no socialist wants private property to continue. You're thinking of personal property. You're right that some socialists call for a market based socialism, though.

I mean, this becomes hair-splitting at a certain point, but I think you can be a socialist (mostly social democrat, which is somewhat a modernized subset of socialism) and still be okay with private property. As long as the general or chief means of generating wealth are shared and fair.

There's no reason why under socialism you couldn't rent out your own belongings to make money, and you could also have a state monopoly on violence enacted by law-keepers to protect your belongings from, say, arson or theft or the like. This seems to be the same as private property today.

The role or need for private property would diminish greatly under socialism, but nothing about it means you couldn't have it. It just wouldn't be allowed to block a worker from getting their fair share from the output of production. Meaning, you can't own a company and pocket profit when a worker is the one who generated it. And if society transitions closer to Star Trek, at some point the concept just becomes deprecated, rather than outlawed. What am I missing here?

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Southernfatman
12/02/20 7:02:40 PM
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s0nicfan posted...


Oh please. I'm not even a socialist and if you want to talk about people ignoring the flaws in their preferred economic system, capitalism fanboys are the absolute worst.

Squall28 posted...
How does hating capitalism translate to "we should improve society somewhat."

Because most people who criticize capitalism don't completely hate it. That's just more right wing bullshit. We just hate all the inequality, corruption, and other horrible flaws of capitalism and want them to be addressed and corrected.

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/02/20 7:05:38 PM
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What they really mean is



EDIT: talking about TC

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ThyCorndog
12/02/20 7:06:20 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
What they really mean is

true

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Shablagoo
12/02/20 7:08:02 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
What they really mean is


lmaoooo

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SaccharineSmile
12/02/20 7:10:25 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
"I hate CAPITALISM!!!" - but still LOVES living in AMERICA

fixed the title for you Sacchy


Ill pay that!!

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NeonOctopus
12/02/20 7:11:48 PM
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"I hate capitalism!"

*buys new $1200 iPhone every year*

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fuming
12/02/20 7:15:25 PM
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nobody who hates capitalism loves living in America, but capitalism also affects the entire globe and the state of other countries is also directly impacted by global capital
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Choco
12/02/20 7:21:29 PM
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SaccharineSmile posted...
you wont even last 1 day in any another non-western first world country
what?

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Smashingpmkns
12/02/20 7:21:38 PM
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Ving_Rhames
12/02/20 7:23:27 PM
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CE is so dumb

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pure_temper
12/02/20 7:55:13 PM
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Spooking posted...
We have folks here who support communism, yet have no idea what it entails. My theory is that they can't cut it in our society, so they want a mommy figure to take care of them throughout their entire life. Little do they know communism isn't the utopia they imagine.

Im pretty sure nobody actually wants communism. We have already adopted most of the good stuff Karl Marx said. The rest of it is pretty iffy, at least as far as the guidance he laid out in his manifesto.

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thrashmetal14
12/02/20 7:56:55 PM
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"I hate capitalism!" they posted from their iPhone that was made by oppressed workers in China. "America is evil and oppressive!"
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voldothegr8
12/02/20 7:58:51 PM
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thrashmetal14 posted...
"I hate capitalism!" they posted from their iPhone that was made by oppressed workers in China. "America is evil and oppressive!"

lmao pretty much
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AlisLandale
12/02/20 7:59:15 PM
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nemu posted...
There's "I dislike the greedier side of capitalism and we need some major reforms in practices and taxes" and there's "I'm about as much of a literal communist as possible, capitalism sucks no matter the form." Against the former, it's a stupid comment, but it's sensible in the latter case. It's like the 9/11 conspiracy theory nutballs. If you seriously think the government murdered its citizens part of a grand plot, why are you still here?

9/11 trutherism has been largely, if not completely debunked.

but remember that Operation Northwoods was a serious proposal that had to be shot down by JFK. >_>

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ThanksUglyGod
12/02/20 8:08:47 PM
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My mom grew up dirt poor in Jamaica (and I mean that literally, she literally ate dirt sometimes to stave off hunger). Now she's making ~$140k as a lawyer, made a couple thousand dollars off her portfolio so far, and will have a generous pension in about a decade.

And she still fucking hates capitalism.
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ThyCorndog
12/02/20 8:10:52 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
My mom grew up dirt poor in Jamaica (and I mean that literally, she literally ate dirt sometimes to stave off hunger). Now she's making ~$140k as a lawyer, made a couple thousand dollars off her portfolio so far, and will have a generous pension in about a decade.

And she still fucking hates capitalism.
your mom sounds pretty based

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DeadBankerDream
12/02/20 8:11:19 PM
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Southernfatman posted...


I think TC saw this image and decided to express it as a discussion forum topic.
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Graycap
12/02/20 8:33:03 PM
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SaccharineSmile posted...
you wont even last 1 day in any another non-western first world country

That doesn't justify America lagging behind than the other western countires.
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Solid Snake07
12/02/20 8:35:21 PM
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Cognitive dissonance isn't exacly a rare trait

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IMNOTRAGED
12/02/20 8:41:08 PM
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The influence that corporations and billionaires have had and continue to have on our inability to address any major issues systemically, especially climate change, should be enough for everyone of the working class to have some pretty major criticisms of capitalism.

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MC_BatCommander
12/02/20 8:42:40 PM
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Yeah because you can't criticize aspects of the country you live in and also enjoy living there

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