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Kaliesto 11/30/20 1:35:48 AM #1:	George: It's Over Kathleen I have the High Ground! Kathleen: You Underestimate the power of Woke George: Don't try it(Slashes Kathleen's limps) George: You were the Chosen one they say you will complete my vision not Abuse it and leave franchise in Ruins Kathleen: Reeeeeee I hate You!! --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:947754116] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>George: It's Over Kathleen I have the High Ground! Kathleen: You Underestimate the power of Woke George: Don't try it(Slashes Kathleen's limps) George: You were the Chosen one they say you will complete my vision not Abuse it and leave franchise in Ruins Kathleen: Reeeeeee I hate You!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/30/20 1:40:52 AM #2:	George sucks too though. He gets too much credit for star wars. He only came up with the basic original concept but supposedly his original ideas were really lame and most if not all of what made star wars great came from idea from other people working with him. Thata why the prequels sucked. He had attained full control and it was all his ideas and nobody else. Star Wara never would have been popular even in the original trilogy without the people who helped him fix the concept There is a similar situation going on with the creator of Batman and his work partner. Same thing happened there. In both cases the wrong person got all the credit <cite>Zikten posted [p:947754201] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>George sucks too though. He gets too much credit for star wars. He only came up with the basic original concept but supposedly his original ideas were really lame and most if not all of what made star wars great came from idea from other people working with him. Thata why the prequels sucked. He had attained full control and it was all his ideas and nobody else. Star Wara never would have been popular even in the original trilogy without the people who helped him fix the concept There is a similar situation going on with the creator of Batman and his work partner. Same thing happened there. In both cases the wrong person got all the credit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0Renegade 11/30/20 1:51:23 AM #3:	George can have good ideas, he's just terrible at executing it IIRC. Which is why people praised the OT cuz he was moderated whereas in the prequels he had full power and yes men behind him. --- Profile pic courtesy of @ProofPyros http://tinyurl.com/3zfs5vb http://tinyurl.com/br9bdeu https://imgur.com/6re4mWM https://imgur.com/gallery/ZhHeQFL <cite>0Renegade posted [p:947754365] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>George can have good ideas, he's just terrible at executing it IIRC. Which is why people praised the OT cuz he was moderated whereas in the prequels he had full power and yes men behind him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BipBapBam 11/30/20 1:53:53 AM #4:	George just needs someone to hold him back and tell him when his ideas are shit. --- Regardless of warnings, the future doesn't scare me at all. This is where the fun begins. <cite>BipBapBam posted [p:947754412] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>George just needs someone to hold him back and tell him when his ideas are shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainMarvel95 11/30/20 2:13:35 AM #5:	The power of woke? Like George Lucas making Palpatine Richard Nixon, or the rebels being the vietcong and the empire being the American Empire, or the prequels being about the rise of fascism in a liberal democracy (we almost got that with Trump), or the protagonist being a woman? <cite>CaptainMarvel95 posted [p:947754748] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>The power of woke? Like George Lucas making Palpatine Richard Nixon, or the rebels being the vietcong and the empire being the American Empire, or the prequels being about the rise of fascism in a liberal democracy (we almost got that with Trump), or the protagonist being a woman? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 11/30/20 2:17:56 AM #6:	Cringe. Yikes. Oof. Smh. Wowsers. Ishygddt. --- https://imgur.com/mptS9Qj <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:947754817] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Cringe. Yikes. Oof. Smh. Wowsers. Ishygddt. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
moh82sy 11/30/20 2:23:19 AM #7:	According to the Internet , if it wasn't for George's wife at the time , the first movie would've been a complete joke . Her absence was felt in the prequels . The abcense of both of them was greatly felt in the sequels . --- https://imgur.com/nb9ziHT https://imgur.com/hETEkiY https://imgur.com/PEMycnp https://imgur.com/U3TyKmy <cite>moh82sy posted [p:947754919] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>According to the Internet , if it wasn't for George's wife at the time , the first movie would've been a complete joke . Her absence was felt in the prequels . The abcense of both of them was greatly felt in the sequels .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Endgame 11/30/20 2:32:32 AM #8:	CaptainMarvel95 posted... or the prequels being about the rise of fascism in a liberal democracy (we almost got that with Trump) That threat isn't gone just yet. Not until the Supreme Court votes to overturn the election happens and one of the conservative judges votes against Trump. --- I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will fight to the death for my right to fight you to the death. -Stephen Colbert <cite>Endgame posted [p:947755078] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>CaptainMarvel95 posted...</cite> <quote>or the prequels being about the rise of fascism in a liberal democracy (we almost got that with Trump)</quote> That threat isn't gone just yet. Not until the Supreme Court votes to overturn the election happens and one of the conservative judges votes against Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 12/01/20 12:02:01 PM #9:	kaliesto with that zoomer energy --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:947801163] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>kaliesto with that zoomer energy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/01/20 12:04:54 PM #10:	Star Wars needed Gary Kurtz back to reign Lucas in. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:947801240] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Star Wars needed Gary Kurtz back to reign Lucas in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 12/01/20 12:07:15 PM #11:	Zikten posted... George sucks too though. He gets too much credit for star wars. He only came up with the basic original concept but supposedly his original ideas were really lame and most if not all of what made star wars great came from idea from other people working with him. Thata why the prequels sucked. He had attained full control and it was all his ideas and nobody else. Star Wara never would have been popular even in the original trilogy without the people who helped him fix the concept There is a similar situation going on with the creator of Batman and his work partner. Same thing happened there. In both cases the wrong person got all the credit Tbf, most of Lucas' actual ideas weren't that bad (at least what we saw in the Prequel Trilogy) It was the execution of them. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:947801307] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>George sucks too though. He gets too much credit for star wars. He only came up with the basic original concept but supposedly his original ideas were really lame and most if not all of what made star wars great came from idea from other people working with him. Thata why the prequels sucked. He had attained full control and it was all his ideas and nobody else. Star Wara never would have been popular even in the original trilogy without the people who helped him fix the concept There is a similar situation going on with the creator of Batman and his work partner. Same thing happened there. In both cases the wrong person got all the credit</quote> Tbf, most of Lucas' actual ideas weren't that bad (at least what we saw in the Prequel Trilogy) It was the execution of them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 12/01/20 12:21:49 PM #12:	What a horrendously stupid fucking topic --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:947801737] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>What a horrendously stupid fucking topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToadallyAwesome 12/01/20 12:29:04 PM #13:	Kennedys issue wasnt being woke but that she did not have a clear vision for the sequel trilogy. She needed a Kevin Feige type guy to hold it all together. There was never any goal for the sequel trilogy other than lets use the OT heroes in some way. So we got this weird mismash of story ideas with no one supervising them. She only still has a job because Star Wars prints money left and right and has done so since 1977 --- https://imgur.com/QKdxwuI <cite>ToadallyAwesome posted [p:947801971] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Kennedys issue wasnt being woke but that she did not have a clear vision for the sequel trilogy. She needed a Kevin Feige type guy to hold it all together. There was never any goal for the sequel trilogy other than lets use the OT heroes in some way. So we got this weird mismash of story ideas with no one supervising them. She only still has a job because Star Wars prints money left and right and has done so since 1977 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 12/01/20 12:35:43 PM #14:	I like how Kennedy catches so much flak for people's issues with the ST in spite of the fact that writing/plotting/storytelling is literally not her job Mean lady boss ruined my space movie --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:947802169] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>I like how Kennedy catches so much flak for people's issues with the ST in spite of the fact that writing/plotting/storytelling is literally not her job Mean lady boss ruined my space movie </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame Zero 12/01/20 12:37:16 PM #15:	George would have driven the IP into the ground so much worse than she has. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:947802217] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>George would have driven the IP into the ground so much worse than she has. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 12/01/20 1:01:10 PM #16:	There are some valid points about Lucas above, but here is the thing: He created the story, the tone, the characters. Then, when the studios wanted a generic sequel, he instead came up with the twist in Empire. From that twist, he was able to create a general outline for the next seven movies. That's pretty brilliant in a time where series telling a single story over a franchise of films was basically non existent. I mean, early film had serialized stuff. But something on the scale of movies in the 60s and 70s? No, not like Star Wars. Now, it seems Marcia Lucas' editing was pivotal. I've watched examples of how Lucas would have laid out the scenes, and it would have been much worse, possibly making it where SW would have never been a hit in the same way. But you know what Lucas did? He picked someone in his wife, who was an excellent editor and was going to make the best of the material. He picked Ralph McQuarrie to paint artwork of scenes, so that when he pitched it to executives they could see the vision. He picked John Williams cause he trusted the genius of Spielberg who recommended him. If you have not read Leigh Brackett's ESB first draft, it's worth it to do so. She was the first writer who Lucas hired to write the sequel to Star Wars. It follows much of the same general plot points of Empire, but with some crucial changes. When Luke goes to Dagobah, he meets the ghost of Anakin who was killed by Vader. Anakin tells him about his long lost twin sister, a character we haven't met yet. Anakin then goes to Cloud City, and defeats Vader, though not totally. There is another mostly happy ending. If the studios, or other writers, looked at SW and tried to write a sequel, that's what it would have been. Another week's episode of Flash Gordon saving the day. Lucas was the one who had the moment of genius revelation, when he realized Anakin and Vader could be the same character. Then he got Lawrence Kasdan to write that version. Through that, he was able to arc out the final film and the prequels, and set up some vague ideas for what the sequels would be. All before RotJ even started. That's why the first film's crawl originally didn't say "Episode IV" but, Empire's crawl has always said "Episode V". Through writing that revelation, Lucas was able to figure out almost the entire rest of the series. Zikten posted... George sucks too though. He gets too much credit for star wars. He only came up with the basic original concept but supposedly his original ideas were really lame and most if not all of what made star wars great came from idea from other people working with him. His contribution to not just the creation but the trajectory of the entire universe cannot be overstated. None of it happens without him. If he had not owned the rights to the sequels, Fox would have pumped out two more generic space films and the series would have gone no where. <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:947802974] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>There are some valid points about Lucas above, but here is the thing: He created the story, the tone, the characters. Then, when the studios wanted a generic sequel, he instead came up with the twist in Empire. From that twist, he was able to create a general outline for the next seven movies. That's pretty brilliant in a time where series telling a single story over a franchise of films was basically non existent. I mean, early film had serialized stuff. But something on the scale of movies in the 60s and 70s? No, not like Star Wars. Now, it seems Marcia Lucas' editing was pivotal. I've watched examples of how Lucas would have laid out the scenes, and it would have been much worse, possibly making it where SW would have never been a hit in the same way. But you know what Lucas did? He picked someone in his wife, who was an excellent editor and was going to make the best of the material. He picked Ralph McQuarrie to paint artwork of scenes, so that when he pitched it to executives they could see the vision. He picked John Williams cause he trusted the genius of Spielberg who recommended him. If you have not read Leigh Brackett's ESB first draft, it's worth it to do so. She was the first writer who Lucas hired to write the sequel to Star Wars. It follows much of the same general plot points of Empire, but with some crucial changes. When Luke goes to Dagobah, he meets the ghost of Anakin who was killed by Vader. Anakin tells him about his long lost twin sister, a character we haven't met yet. Anakin then goes to Cloud City, and defeats Vader, though not totally. There is another mostly happy ending. If the studios, or other writers, looked at SW and tried to write a sequel, that's what it would have been. Another week's episode of Flash Gordon saving the day. Lucas was the one who had the moment of genius revelation, when he realized Anakin and Vader could be the same character. Then he got Lawrence Kasdan to write that version. Through that, he was able to arc out the final film and the prequels, and set up some vague ideas for what the sequels would be. All before RotJ even started. That's why the first film's crawl originally didn't say "Episode IV" but, Empire's crawl has always said "Episode V". Through writing that revelation, Lucas was able to figure out almost the entire rest of the series. Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>George sucks too though. He gets too much credit for star wars. He only came up with the basic original concept but supposedly his original ideas were really lame and most if not all of what made star wars great came from idea from other people working with him. </quote>His contribution to not just the creation but the trajectory of the entire universe cannot be overstated. None of it happens without him. If he had not owned the rights to the sequels, Fox would have pumped out two more generic space films and the series would have gone no where. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 12/01/20 1:09:33 PM #17:	Scully, as far as I can tell, there is no current thing with Kathleen Kennedy and George Lucas, so what if this whole thread is just someone being butt mad about Star Wars and making up celebrity gossip in order to justify their anger. What do you think, Scully? --- sent from microsoft waffle iron. help let me out <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:947803258] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Scully, as far as I can tell, there is no current thing with Kathleen Kennedy and George Lucas, so what if this whole thread is just someone being butt mad about Star Wars and making up celebrity gossip in order to justify their anger. What do you think, Scully? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 12/01/20 1:24:36 PM #18:	Doom_Art posted... I like how Kennedy catches so much flak for people's issues with the ST in spite of the fact that writing/plotting/storytelling is literally not her job Not to mention so many of the ideas people blame her for were Lucas's --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:947803760] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>I like how Kennedy catches so much flak for people's issues with the ST in spite of the fact that writing/plotting/storytelling is literally not her job</quote>Not to mention so many of the ideas people blame her for were Lucas's </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 12/01/20 1:26:14 PM #19:	Doom_Art posted... I like how Kennedy catches so much flak for people's issues with the ST in spite of the fact that writing/plotting/storytelling is literally not her job I'm not one of the people who talk shit on her for no reason (ie just cause she's a woman). However, she does have executive control, and up til now she has involved herself, and has been able to push ideas or veto them. She is not detached from the creative team. <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:947803822] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>I like how Kennedy catches so much flak for people's issues with the ST in spite of the fact that writing/plotting/storytelling is literally not her job</quote>I'm not one of the people who talk shit on her for no reason (ie just cause she's a woman). However, she does have executive control, and up til now she has involved herself, and has been able to push ideas or veto them. She is not detached from the creative team. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 12/01/20 2:31:03 PM #20:	ToadallyAwesome posted... She needed a Kevin Feige type guy to hold it all together. There was never any goal for the sequel trilogy other than lets use the OT heroes in some way. She has Dave Filoni. --- You enjoy teaching high schoolers, and I'll enjoy creating my crappy manga. Let's see where we both are in a year. TheDoorMouse Update https://imgur.com/vz0c9xf <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:947806086] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>ToadallyAwesome posted... </cite> <quote>She needed a Kevin Feige type guy to hold it all together. There was never any goal for the sequel trilogy other than lets use the OT heroes in some way.</quote>She has Dave Filoni. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 12/01/20 2:31:48 PM #21:	ViewtifulGrave posted... ToadallyAwesome posted... She needed a Kevin Feige type guy to hold it all together. There was never any goal for the sequel trilogy other than lets use the OT heroes in some way. She has Dave Filoni. But didn't use him for movies <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:947806116] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulGrave posted...</cite> <quote>ToadallyAwesome posted... </cite> <quote> She needed a Kevin Feige type guy to hold it all together. There was never any goal for the sequel trilogy other than lets use the OT heroes in some way.</quote>She has Dave Filoni. </quote> But didn't use him for movies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame Zero 12/01/20 2:43:05 PM #22:	ToadallyAwesome posted... Kennedys issue wasnt being woke but that she did not have a clear vision for the sequel trilogy. She needed a Kevin Feige type guy to hold it all together. There was never any goal for the sequel trilogy other than lets use the OT heroes in some way. So we got this weird mismash of story ideas with no one supervising them. It's like night and day. The side movies, Mando, and the comics have been great, but the sequel trilogy is so unfocused and messy. TLJ did way too many things that should have been saved for a finale, and then there was that interview Daisy Ridley had with Josh Gad where Abrams told her during filming RoS ~~"so, Palpatine is your father!"~~ , but then he told her the next day "actually, no, we might change it." How do you completely drop the ball with such a massively-anticipated trilogy, when something like the MCU was fleshed out years in advance? --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:947806520] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>ToadallyAwesome posted... </cite> <quote>Kennedys issue wasnt being woke but that she did not have a clear vision for the sequel trilogy. She needed a Kevin Feige type guy to hold it all together. There was never any goal for the sequel trilogy other than lets use the OT heroes in some way. So we got this weird mismash of story ideas with no one supervising them. </quote> It's like night and day. The side movies, Mando, and the comics have been great, but the sequel trilogy is so unfocused and messy. TLJ did way too many things that should have been saved for a finale, and then there was that interview Daisy Ridley had with Josh Gad where Abrams told her during filming RoS "so, Palpatine is your father!" , but then he told her the next day "actually, no, we might change it." How do you completely drop the ball with such a massively-anticipated trilogy, when something like the MCU was fleshed out years in advance? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SevenTenths 12/01/20 2:45:47 PM #23:	Doom_Art posted... I like how Kennedy catches so much flak for people's issues with the ST in spite of the fact that writing/plotting/storytelling is literally not her job Whose job was it to hire someone to write out and stick to a plan for a trilogy? Oh well, keep trolling. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all. I Like Toast Alt - https://mikelikesthis.net/ The Blog Is back <cite>SevenTenths posted [p:947806605] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>I like how Kennedy catches so much flak for people's issues with the ST in spite of the fact that writing/plotting/storytelling is literally not her job</quote>Whose job was it to hire someone to write out and stick to a plan for a trilogy? Oh well, keep trolling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 12/01/20 2:49:24 PM #24:	She's clearly not incompetent since the Mandalorian is very well received and is intimately tied up with the story and lore of other Star Wars stories, including both the movies and TV shows. So what the hell happened with the sequels? --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:947806743] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>She's clearly not incompetent since the Mandalorian is very well received and is intimately tied up with the story and lore of other Star Wars stories, including both the movies and TV shows. So what the hell happened with the sequels? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 12/01/20 7:22:51 PM #25:	You all are hilarious. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:947816125] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>You all are hilarious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainMarvel95 12/01/20 7:24:28 PM #26:	legendary_zell posted... She's clearly not incompetent since the Mandalorian is very well received and is intimately tied up with the story and lore of other Star Wars stories, including both the movies and TV shows. So what the hell happened with the sequels? Her only problem was pandering to the "fans" for Rise of Skywalker. <cite>CaptainMarvel95 posted [p:947816182] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>She's clearly not incompetent since the Mandalorian is very well received and is intimately tied up with the story and lore of other Star Wars stories, including both the movies and TV shows. So what the hell happened with the sequels?</quote>Her only problem was pandering to the "fans" for Rise of Skywalker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 12/01/20 7:24:56 PM #27:	legendary_zell posted... She's clearly not incompetent since the Mandalorian is very well received and is intimately tied up with the story and lore of other Star Wars stories, including both the movies and TV shows. So what the hell happened with the sequels? 2nd director didn't care about Star Wars, but the first 1st director did. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:947816206] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>She's clearly not incompetent since the Mandalorian is very well received and is intimately tied up with the story and lore of other Star Wars stories, including both the movies and TV shows. So what the hell happened with the sequels?</quote> 2nd director didn't care about Star Wars, but the first 1st director did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainMarvel95 12/01/20 7:26:21 PM #28:	Kaliesto posted... 2nd director didn't care about Star Wars, but the first 1st director did. Ah yes he didn't care about Star Wars because he didn't pander to you. <cite>CaptainMarvel95 posted [p:947816262] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>2nd director didn't care about Star Wars, but the first 1st director did.</quote>Ah yes he didn't care about Star Wars because he didn't pander to you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 12/01/20 7:27:41 PM #29:	legendary_zell posted... She's clearly not incompetent since the Mandalorian is very well received and is intimately tied up with the story and lore of other Star Wars stories, including both the movies and TV shows. So what the hell happened with the sequels? Mandalorian has a cute mute Muppet, and the sequel trilogy Muppets are not cute and/or mute enough, and it is also the flagship title of the hot new streaming service that Disney farted out. That is the secret to its success. --- sent from microsoft waffle iron. help let me out <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:947816302] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>She's clearly not incompetent since the Mandalorian is very well received and is intimately tied up with the story and lore of other Star Wars stories, including both the movies and TV shows. So what the hell happened with the sequels?</quote>Mandalorian has a cute mute Muppet, and the sequel trilogy Muppets are not cute and/or mute enough, and it is also the flagship title of the hot new streaming service that Disney farted out. That is the secret to its success. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 12/01/20 7:27:58 PM #30:	CaptainMarvel95 posted... Ah yes he didn't care about Star Wars because he didn't pander to you. No; he literally didn't like star wars. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:947816313] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>CaptainMarvel95 posted... </cite> <quote>Ah yes he didn't care about Star Wars because he didn't pander to you.</quote> No; he literally didn't like star wars. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainMarvel95 12/01/20 7:29:44 PM #31:	Kaliesto posted... No; he literally didn't like star wars. Got any evidence for that? <cite>CaptainMarvel95 posted [p:947816376] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>No; he literally didn't like star wars.</quote>Got any evidence for that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 12/01/20 7:35:56 PM #32:	CaptainMarvel95 posted... Got any evidence for that? https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/03/03/star-wars-the-last-jedi-director-rian-johnson-admits-he-didnt-care-about-star-wars-canon-and-history/ He didn't care about canon and history and greatly affected the first movie of their new trilogy due to his liberties and self-entitlement. I would say only the First Movie was ok, and the Third Movie was also taking liberties to a extent that even old fans would point out, but the third movie was not as bad the 2nd movie. and to quote this guy - The general lack of effort by clowns like this shows. Not a living soul cares about anything related to the last three movies, except maybe the next time someone like Mauler plans to spend 12 hours making jokes about them on Youtube. I'm pretty much back to not recognizing anything not done by Lucas. Just because Disney paid money for it doesn't make it canon. Actually the same logic that more and more people are applying to all the major franchises these days...no Star Trek since Enterprise...no Doctor Who since Peter Capaldi. The franchises are more important than the people who give money to incompetents to ruin them. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:947816601] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>CaptainMarvel95 posted... </cite> <quote>Got any evidence for that?</quote> https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/03/03/star-wars-the-last-jedi-director-rian-johnson-admits-he-didnt-care-about-star-wars-canon-and-history/ He didn't care about canon and history and greatly affected the first movie of their new trilogy due to his liberties and self-entitlement. I would say only the First Movie was ok, and the Third Movie was also taking liberties to a extent that even old fans would point out, but the third movie was not as bad the 2nd movie. and to quote this guy - The general lack of effort by clowns like this shows. Not a living soul cares about anything related to the last three movies, except maybe the next time someone like Mauler plans to spend 12 hours making jokes about them on Youtube. I'm pretty much back to not recognizing anything not done by Lucas. Just because Disney paid money for it doesn't make it canon. Actually the same logic that more and more people are applying to all the major franchises these days...no Star Trek since Enterprise...no Doctor Who since Peter Capaldi. The franchises are more important than the people who give money to incompetents to ruin them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accolon 12/01/20 7:35:57 PM #33:	Luckily, there's A New Hope ~~Dave Filoni~~ --- https://imgur.com/XAMp8 <cite>Accolon posted [p:947816604] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Luckily, there's A New Hope Dave Filoni </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Neckhomachus 12/01/20 7:37:30 PM #34:	Kaliesto posted... He didn't care about canon and history and greatly affected the first movie of their new trilogy due to his liberties and self-entitlement. I would say only the First Movie was ok, but the Third Movie was also taking liberties to a extent that even old fans would point out, but third movie was not as bad the 2nd movie. and to quote this guy - The general lack of effort by clowns like this shows. Not a living soul cares about anything related to the last three movies, except maybe the next time someone like Mauler plans to spend 12 hours making jokes about them on Youtube. I'm pretty much back to not recognizing anything not done by Lucas. Just because Disney paid money for it doesn't make it canon. Actually the same logic that more and more people are applying to all the major franchises these days...no Star Trek since Enterprise...no Doctor Who since Peter Capaldi. The franchises are more important than the people who give money to incompetents to ruin them. for future reference, the reputation of that website is pitiable. though the article is based on a YT interview Johnson did <cite>Neckhomachus posted [p:947816656] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>He didn't care about canon and history and greatly affected the first movie of their new trilogy due to his liberties and self-entitlement. I would say only the First Movie was ok, but the Third Movie was also taking liberties to a extent that even old fans would point out, but third movie was not as bad the 2nd movie. and to quote this guy - The general lack of effort by clowns like this shows. Not a living soul cares about anything related to the last three movies, except maybe the next time someone like Mauler plans to spend 12 hours making jokes about them on Youtube. I'm pretty much back to not recognizing anything not done by Lucas. Just because Disney paid money for it doesn't make it canon. Actually the same logic that more and more people are applying to all the major franchises these days...no Star Trek since Enterprise...no Doctor Who since Peter Capaldi. The franchises are more important than the people who give money to incompetents to ruin them.</quote>for future reference, the reputation of that website is pitiable. though the article is based on a YT interview Johnson did </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainMarvel95 12/01/20 7:37:50 PM #35:	Kaliesto posted... https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/03/03/star-wars-the-last-jedi-director-rian-johnson-admits-he-didnt-care-about-star-wars-canon-and-history/ He didn't care about canon and history and greatly affected the first movie of their new trilogy due to his liberties and self-entitlement. I would say only the First Movie was ok, but the Third Movie was also taking liberties to a extent that even old fans would point out, but third movie was not as bad the 2nd movie. Did you actually read the article? He says nothing about not liking the original Star Wars movies. <cite>CaptainMarvel95 posted [p:947816673] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/03/03/star-wars-the-last-jedi-director-rian-johnson-admits-he-didnt-care-about-star-wars-canon-and-history/ He didn't care about canon and history and greatly affected the first movie of their new trilogy due to his liberties and self-entitlement. I would say only the First Movie was ok, but the Third Movie was also taking liberties to a extent that even old fans would point out, but third movie was not as bad the 2nd movie.</quote>Did you actually read the article? He says nothing about not liking the original Star Wars movies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/01/20 7:37:58 PM #36:	Kaliesto posted... https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/03/03/star-wars-the-last-jedi-director-rian-johnson-admits-he-didnt-care-about-star-wars-canon-and-history/ He didn't care about canon and history and greatly affected the first movie of their new trilogy due to his liberties and self-entitlement. I would say only the First Movie was ok, but the Third Movie was also taking liberties to a extent that even old fans would point out, but third movie was not as bad the 2nd movie. and to quote this guy - The general lack of effort by clowns like this shows. Not a living soul cares about anything related to the last three movies, except maybe the next time someone like Mauler plans to spend 12 hours making jokes about them on Youtube. I'm pretty much back to not recognizing anything not done by Lucas. Just because Disney paid money for it doesn't make it canon. Actually the same logic that more and more people are applying to all the major franchises these days...no Star Trek since Enterprise...no Doctor Who since Peter Capaldi. The franchises are more important than the people who give money to incompetents to ruin them. Good lord what a shitty article that is. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:947816679] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/03/03/star-wars-the-last-jedi-director-rian-johnson-admits-he-didnt-care-about-star-wars-canon-and-history/ He didn't care about canon and history and greatly affected the first movie of their new trilogy due to his liberties and self-entitlement. I would say only the First Movie was ok, but the Third Movie was also taking liberties to a extent that even old fans would point out, but third movie was not as bad the 2nd movie. and to quote this guy - The general lack of effort by clowns like this shows. Not a living soul cares about anything related to the last three movies, except maybe the next time someone like Mauler plans to spend 12 hours making jokes about them on Youtube. I'm pretty much back to not recognizing anything not done by Lucas. Just because Disney paid money for it doesn't make it canon. Actually the same logic that more and more people are applying to all the major franchises these days...no Star Trek since Enterprise...no Doctor Who since Peter Capaldi. The franchises are more important than the people who give money to incompetents to ruin them.</quote> Good lord what a shitty article that is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 12/01/20 7:39:03 PM #37:	CaptainMarvel95 posted... Did you actually read the article? He says nothing about not liking the original Star Wars movies. Its written clear as day; if he didn't really care about the franchise of the past then why does he care now? This franchise wasn't his bag; they picked the wrong director. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:947816722] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>CaptainMarvel95 posted... </cite> <quote>Did you actually read the article? He says nothing about not liking the original Star Wars movies.</quote> Its written clear as day; if he didn't really care about the franchise of the past then why does he care now? This franchise wasn't his bag; they picked the wrong director. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainMarvel95 12/01/20 7:39:12 PM #38:	Darmik posted... Good lord what a shitty article that is. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bounding-into-comics/ It's definitely a great source of information /s. <cite>CaptainMarvel95 posted [p:947816729] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Good lord what a shitty article that is.</quote>https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bounding-into-comics/ It's definitely a great source of information /s. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 12/01/20 7:39:37 PM #39:	legendary_zell posted... So what the hell happened with the sequels? Abrams wanted three years between sequels as a condition for him helming the trilogy but was refused, either by Kennedy or Bob Iger depending on the version of the story When they kept it at 2 years Abrams decided to leave after TFA and Rian Johnson was hired on. After attempts to entice Ron Johnson failed, Colin Trevarrow was brought on for IX Don't know why Trevarrow was let go. Reasons range from Book of Henry flopping, to him being incapable of creatively handling Carrie Fischers death, to him being unpleasant to work with. He was let go and higher ups at Disney were unwilling to delay IX so Abrams was brought in to pull it together. tl;dr: Disney's reticence to delay/spread everything out led to an annoying mixture of departing talent and time crunch --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:947816743] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>So what the hell happened with the sequels?</quote>Abrams wanted three years between sequels as a condition for him helming the trilogy but was refused, either by Kennedy or Bob Iger depending on the version of the story When they kept it at 2 years Abrams decided to leave after TFA and Rian Johnson was hired on. After attempts to entice Ron Johnson failed, Colin Trevarrow was brought on for IX Don't know why Trevarrow was let go. Reasons range from Book of Henry flopping, to him being incapable of creatively handling Carrie Fischers death, to him being unpleasant to work with. He was let go and higher ups at Disney were unwilling to delay IX so Abrams was brought in to pull it together. tl;dr: Disney's reticence to delay/spread everything out led to an annoying mixture of departing talent and time crunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainMarvel95 12/01/20 7:39:54 PM #40:	Kaliesto posted... Its written clear as day; if he didn't really care about the franchise of the past then why does he care now? This franchise wasn't his bag; they picked the wrong director. Post the part where he says that he doesn't like the original Star Wars movies. I'll wait. <cite>CaptainMarvel95 posted [p:947816757] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>Its written clear as day; if he didn't really care about the franchise of the past then why does he care now? This franchise wasn't his bag; they picked the wrong director.</quote>Post the part where he says that he doesn't like the original Star Wars movies. I'll wait. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaliesto 12/01/20 7:42:27 PM #42:	CaptainMarvel95 posted... Post the part where he says that he doesn't like the original Star Wars movies. I'll wait. No I'm done entertaining your posts, you're just fishing me at this point. This is just plain common sense. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:947816880] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>CaptainMarvel95 posted... </cite> <quote>Post the part where he says that he doesn't like the original Star Wars movies. I'll wait.</quote> No I'm done entertaining your posts, you're just fishing me at this point. This is just plain common sense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 12/01/20 7:42:56 PM #44:	Kaliesto posted... Its written clear as day; if he didn't really care about the franchise of the past then why does he care now? This franchise wasn't his bag; they picked the wrong director. That isn't what he's saying at all. You and the article are purposefully twisting what he said to be about something it's not. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:947816903] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Kaliesto posted... </cite> <quote>Its written clear as day; if he didn't really care about the franchise of the past then why does he care now? This franchise wasn't his bag; they picked the wrong director.</quote> That isn't what he's saying at all. You and the article are purposefully twisting what he said to be about something it's not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Neckhomachus 12/01/20 7:43:27 PM #45:	I mean I'll admit even I assumed Rian Johnson doesn't care about SW based on the writing in TLJ but I'll also admit that I was wrong since Johnson said he does care <cite>Neckhomachus posted [p:947816921] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>I mean I'll admit even I assumed Rian Johnson doesn't care about SW based on the writing in TLJ but I'll also admit that I was wrong since Johnson said he does care </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainMarvel95 12/01/20 7:43:39 PM #46:	ImAMarvel posted... No one involved in those writing and direction of those movies had passion for the franchise (save JJ) and more importantly, any writing talent. Rian Johnson had far more passion for the franchise. JJ just has a passion of being safe and pandering to the fans. <cite>CaptainMarvel95 posted [p:947816931] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>ImAMarvel posted... </cite> <quote>No one involved in those writing and direction of those movies had passion for the franchise (save JJ) and more importantly, any writing talent.</quote>Rian Johnson had far more passion for the franchise. JJ just has a passion of being safe and pandering to the fans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Neckhomachus 12/01/20 7:44:29 PM #47:	I don't know how TLJ was taking risks like people are saying. By having Luke be grumpy? <cite>Neckhomachus posted [p:947816962] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>I don't know how TLJ was taking risks like people are saying. By having Luke be grumpy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 12/01/20 7:44:44 PM #48:	ImAMarvel posted... No one involved in those writing and direction of those movies had passion for the franchise (save JJ) and more importantly, any writing talent. Rian Johnson and Lawrence Kasden are good writers tho --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:947816973] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>ImAMarvel posted... </cite> <quote>No one involved in those writing and direction of those movies had passion for the franchise (save JJ) and more importantly, any writing talent.</quote>Rian Johnson and Lawrence Kasden are good writers tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 12/01/20 7:44:45 PM #49:	Darmik posted... That isn't what he's saying at all. You and the article are purposefully twisting what he said to be about something it's not. Fine believe whatever, but when you have Mark Hamil, George Lucas, and other figures taking heavy issues with him then there is clearly something wrong. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:947816974] in The whole ... [t:79143935]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>That isn't what he's saying at all. You and the article are purposefully twisting what he said to be about something it's not.</quote> Fine believe whatever, but when you have Mark Hamil, George Lucas, and other figures taking heavy issues with him then there is clearly something wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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