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Edification
11/17/20 4:28:05 PM
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Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand great to see us out of the Middle East but on the other hand feels more like a fuck you to Biden than a strategic decision.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/afghanistan-iraq-withdrawal-pentagon/index.html
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CADE FOSTER
11/17/20 4:32:10 PM
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Trump is gonna leave a world of shit for Biden to try and fix or his master Putin told him to do it
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Zikten
11/17/20 4:40:39 PM
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it's also a fuck you to the people who live in those regions who rely on US troops to be safe.
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Colorahdo
11/17/20 4:41:27 PM
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convince me this is a bad thing

we are only there to ruin the lives of countless millions so we can have a little more control of the world

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CADE FOSTER
11/17/20 4:42:29 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
convince me this is a bad thing

we are only there to ruin the lives of countless millions so we can have a little more control of the world
You cant be this dense terrorists move in once we leave and the whole area destabilizes even more
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FrozenPie
11/17/20 4:42:36 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
convince me this is a bad thing

we are only there to ruin the lives of countless millions so we can have a little more control of the world

I'm with this guy.
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Autocraticus
11/17/20 4:43:11 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
convince me this is a bad thing

we are only there to ruin the lives of countless millions so we can have a little more control of the world
Its only bad because Trump did it.

Bring the boys back home.
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YellowSUV
11/17/20 4:43:18 PM
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They are stupid ass wars that the United States gets nothing out of staying in anyway. Seems like this is one of Trump's broken clock moments.

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Zikten
11/17/20 4:43:27 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
convince me this is a bad thing

last time we left a nation, the locals were throwing rocks at our troops as they left. not because they hated the troops, but because they hated they were leaving. And I think many of them died later on.
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I Like Toast
11/17/20 4:44:11 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
convince me this is a bad thing



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CADE FOSTER
11/17/20 4:44:54 PM
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I fully expect Al queda and other extremist groups to take over again
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kingdrake2
11/17/20 4:45:24 PM
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it's flipping me off (the black flag).
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Abiz_
11/17/20 4:45:44 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
You cant be this dense terrorists move in once we leave and the whole area destabilizes even more
So you are saying we stabilized Libya?
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MixedRaceBaby
11/17/20 4:47:03 PM
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its like if i saw a troubled kid with bad parents, kicked down their parents, shot both of them and said "YOU'RE SAVED! ok bye" and just left the kid there

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marc55
11/17/20 4:47:47 PM
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hard to know if is bad or not

but it is trump is doing this after the elections ....... so it does feel like there is something we dont know

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Beemo_Season11
11/17/20 4:48:03 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
convince me this is a bad thing

we are only there to ruin the lives of countless millions so we can have a little more control of the world

The only bad outcome is if Trump will use them here in America for the second civil war.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
11/17/20 4:49:46 PM
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How come we pay no mind to Boko Haram?

They really need a good airstrike or carpet bombing.


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ElatedVenusaur
11/17/20 4:50:03 PM
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Good. Our presence in Afghanistan in particular is pointless. The sooner we admit the venture has failed, the better.
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CADE FOSTER
11/17/20 4:51:51 PM
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marc55 posted...
hard to know if is bad or not

but it is trump is doing this after the elections ....... so it does feel like there is something we dont know
If we see Russian Troops pull into the empty bases like right after we left Syria you know Trumps doing Putins bidding
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Heavy_D_Forever
11/17/20 4:52:21 PM
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If Trump sent more troops they would call him a warlord, and if he pulls Troops out they say he is destabilizing the region

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YellowSUV
11/17/20 4:53:38 PM
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America has been in Afghanistan for 20 years barely accomplishing anything. 20 years later and the Taliban is still a huge issue.

How is America supposed to even stabilize the region baring something extreme such as treating Afghanistan like Germany or Japan in WWII and beating the whole population into submission through unrestricted warfare?

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--Zero-
11/17/20 4:54:08 PM
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Haven't we been there for over 9 years now? They're not stable enough still to fend on their own?

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ThunderTrain
11/17/20 4:56:33 PM
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If Trump is doing it, then you know its a bad idea.

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CADE FOSTER
11/17/20 4:56:37 PM
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We fucked there countries up and we just leave cuz sorry we failed fix ur own shit we owe them
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Kavatar
11/17/20 5:04:47 PM
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I don't know enough to know if it will end up with good or bad consequences, but I do know that the timing is incredibly questionable.

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toadfan64
11/17/20 5:09:33 PM
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Good. We shouldn't have been there anyways. We should focus on our problems back at home and stop being the worlds police.

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Edification
11/17/20 5:55:59 PM
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toadfan64 posted...
Good. We shouldn't have been there anyways. We should focus on our problems back at home and stop being the worlds police.

does the us not have a moral responsibility to clean up any mess they started?

i mean if I come round your house and fuck your kitchen Im sure youd be expecting me to sort it out
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TomNook20
11/17/20 5:57:41 PM
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Awesome. Shame biden will probably just start another war or send them right back. It's also weird that so many leftists have become neocons recently and are spouting bush era talking points.

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Edification
11/17/20 5:58:49 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
Awesome. Shame biden will probably just start another war or send them right back. It's also weird that so many leftists have become neocons recently and are spouting bush era talking points.

example?
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Phynaster
11/17/20 5:59:28 PM
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--Zero- posted...
Haven't we been there for over 9 years now? They're not stable enough still to fend on their own?
What year do you think it currently is

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TomNook20
11/17/20 5:59:53 PM
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CoolMaskGuy
11/17/20 6:00:41 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
convince me this is a bad thing

we are only there to ruin the lives of countless millions so we can have a little more control of the world

I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing I just question Trump's timing and motivation.
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BLAKUboy
11/17/20 6:01:43 PM
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Kavatar posted...
I don't know enough to know if it will end up with good or bad consequences, but I do know that the timing is incredibly questionable.
It's absolutely going to have bad consequences which Republicans then get to blame Biden for despite it explicitly being Trump's action.

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Edification
11/17/20 6:07:02 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
Your last post


I dont see how wanting to ensure we dont leave the place worse than we found it is anywhere near the same as wanting to start more wars. But each to there own.

Personally I would love to see the troops come home. But it has to be done in a controlled manner and not leave the country ripe for another isis to rise up.
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TheMikh
11/17/20 6:07:37 PM
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CoolMaskGuy posted...
I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing I just question Trump's timing and motivation.

timing isn't too odd; it's not the first time he's attempted to bring an end to it, but now he has very little time left to do so, so he's going all in on it

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Edification
11/17/20 6:08:15 PM
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TheMikh posted...
timing isn't too odd; it's not the first time he's attempted to bring an end to it, but now he has very little time left to do so, so he's going all in on it

even his own party are saying its not a good idea

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mcconnell-trump-afghanistan-troop-withdrawal-taliban-terrorists-b1723917.html
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Hexenherz
11/17/20 6:09:17 PM
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Nothing says supporting our troops like making the thousands of lives lost completely meaningless.

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voldothegr8
11/17/20 6:12:27 PM
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Liberals: "Why THE FUCK isn't Obama pulling out our troops!"

Also liberals: "OMG Trump is an evil MONSTER for pulling out our troops!"
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Edification
11/17/20 6:13:04 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Liberals: "Why THE FUCK isn't Obama pulling out our troops!"

Also liberals: "OMG Trump is an evil MONSTER for pulling out our troops!"

its too nuanced for you @voldothegr8
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BudDupree48
11/17/20 6:13:23 PM
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Good post voldo

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Abiz_
11/17/20 6:16:08 PM
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Liberals posters want to turn Syria into another Libya just because Trump is trying to pull out the troops again for the 10th time.
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TomNook20
11/17/20 6:18:52 PM
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Edification posted...
Personally I would love to see the troops come home. But it has to be done in a controlled manner and not leave the country ripe for another isis to rise up.
Which is exactly a neocon talking point for neverending occupation.

Edification posted...
even his own party are saying its not a good idea

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mcconnell-trump-afghanistan-troop-withdrawal-taliban-terrorists-b1723917.html
That's how you know it's a GREAT idea.

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DirkDiggles
11/17/20 6:19:14 PM
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Obama pulled the troops out of Iraq when he took office. It soon became a hotbed for insurgency and terrorism. Do you guys want a repeat of that?

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Phynaster
11/17/20 6:20:42 PM
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Abiz_ posted...
Liberals posters want to turn Syria into another Libya just because Trump is trying to pull out the troops again for the 10th time.
What do you think Syria is

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Abiz_
11/17/20 6:23:27 PM
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Phynaster posted...
What do you think Syria is
Well seeing your question is broad and worthless. It's a Country that borders Iraq. That a lot of warmongers want us to kill Assad. So they can get another power vacuum just like what happened with Libya.
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Hexenherz
11/17/20 6:23:29 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
Which is exactly a neocon talking point for neverending occupation.

That's how you know it's a GREAT idea.
Trump spent his four years negotiating a peace deal with ... the Taliban. And in turn they're supposed to negotiate a peace deal with the Afghan government. None of that makes sense. You think they're going to just do it after we leave?

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11/17/20 6:50:43 PM
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I think we should keep American troops in Afghanistan & Iraq. Screw whatever Trump and locals want, were staying!

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Sheiky-Baby
11/17/20 6:50:44 PM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
If Trump sent more troops they would call him a warlord, and if he pulls Troops out they say he is destabilizing the region


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