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dotsdfe
11/16/20 8:18:44 PM
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There's already a thread about the Capcom leaks, but the Ace Attorney side of the leaks is absolutely popping off.

To summarize, there are roughly four separate leaks right now:

-The most credible is the AA1-3 & Dai Gyakuten Saiban/Great Ace Attorney 1 & 2 collection. This one has been a big, big focus of the leaks, and boils down to an all-in-one collection of those games on PS4 and Switch for $40, and more notably, that it's getting localized. There are a lot of screens emerging for this one, including English text and boxart for these versions.

-The other, but less credible, rumor is for Ace Attorney 7 being real and in development.

-Apparently an AA4/5/6 collection is being considered along the lines of the 1/2/3 ports.

-And lastly, apparently the AA anime is coming to a few services, including Netflix.

I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but I've seen a lot of assets for the AA collection thing in particular, and I'm starting to buy into it. I honestly never thought we'd get DGS and I don't have a good way to play the fan translation, so this is really really hype if it's true. I'm really hoping that the AA7 stuff is real too.

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DeadBankerDream
11/16/20 8:42:03 PM
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I'll believe DGS 1&2 are getting localized when I see more official news on it.
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sauceje
11/16/20 8:42:28 PM
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Pretty cool news, this kinda made me hype for a potential Nintendo Direct since AA was originally a Nintendo franchise so it'd be the place to announce it

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NeonOctopus
11/16/20 8:42:48 PM
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Phoenox x Maya

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One_Day_Remains
11/16/20 8:43:56 PM
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cuh posted...
What I want is AAI2

But if this is true then this is awesome!!


If you haven't played the English patch of AAI2, you should
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dotsdfe
11/16/20 8:48:33 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I'll believe DGS 1&2 are getting localized when I see more official news on it.


This is a totally fair stance to take, but I will say that, if it's a fake, the fakers worked very hard on it for no discernible reason.

I'm iffy about posting screenshots here, but I've seen a lot of info about the DGS thing in particular, including updated localized names (to avoid copyright concerns), boxart for the new ports, and some sales info (apparently, if this is real, Xbone isn't getting this one because the AA Trilogy port sold a dismal 1000~ copies on Xbone).

It could still be a fake, but if it is, it's a damn convincing one.

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If you haven't played the English patch of AAI2, you should


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Also, I second these. AAI2 is pretty easy to dig up and play, and I'd highly, highly recommend it if it's at all possible for you to. My laptop is absolute trash and can still run it.

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DeadBankerDream
11/16/20 8:50:16 PM
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Copyright? I thought Sherlock Holmes was public domain.
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BignutzisBack
11/16/20 8:51:03 PM
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dotsdfe
11/16/20 8:52:16 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Copyright? I thought Sherlock Holmes was public domain.

From what I've heard, there's an estate that owns at least some of the rights and is infamous for suing. I'm not sure on the details, but that was a rumored reason why DGS wasn't localized in the first place.

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apolloooo
11/16/20 8:53:36 PM
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I played the fan translation of dai gyakuten saiban and enjoyed it quite a lot. I hope other games in the series come out on steam aside from the first trilogy.

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iceclimbersFH
11/16/20 8:57:56 PM
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dotsdfe posted...
From what I've heard, there's an estate that owns at least some of the rights and is infamous for suing. I'm not sure on the details, but that was a rumored reason why DGS wasn't localized in the first place.

I believe this is the case, but not positive as well.

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dotsdfe
11/16/20 11:21:47 PM
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apolloooo posted...
I played the fan translation of dai gyakuten saiban and enjoyed it quite a lot. I hope other games in the series come out on steam aside from the first trilogy.


I've heard that the second is even better. I haven't been able to play either, though, so I'm super pumped to play both if this pans out.

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nfearurspecimn
11/16/20 11:30:30 PM
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Are those great ace attorney games any good
I really enjoyed them. Some parts aren't so good, but overall a great experience. I would say skip Apollo Justice, though.

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nfearurspecimn
11/17/20 1:20:16 AM
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Kristoph, Apollo's cornered theme, and Trucy, were the only good things about it.

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GiftedACIII
11/17/20 1:39:00 AM
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Nice. But why are we getting ports of the first trilogy again?
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Smashingpmkns
11/17/20 1:40:18 AM
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I still haven't beat the second. The circus case is a drag lol is the anime any good?
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Questionmarktarius
11/17/20 1:40:25 AM
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Are these VNs or not?
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Sonic Cannon
11/17/20 1:41:55 AM
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I can't remember if I played AAI2 or not. I definitely played at least the first one.
Anyway this is good news. AA series on DS was one of my favourite gaming experiences of all time.

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AlisLandale
11/17/20 1:47:23 AM
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Apollo Justice is a weird title and Klavier is a shit prosecuter who feels more like your cheerleader than an actual rival, but overall I enjoyed the story.

Worse comes to worse just YouTube a playthrough. Troll Dad Phoenix is worth at least that much <_<

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GiftedACIII
11/17/20 1:48:20 AM
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Sonic Cannon posted...
I can't remember if I played AAI2 or not. I definitely played at least the first one.
Anyway this is good news. AA series on DS was one of my favourite gaming experiences of all time.


You probably havent because youd remember having to set up stuff for the translation patch. And for it being a beast game.
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dotsdfe
11/17/20 1:50:01 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Nice. But why are we getting ports of the first trilogy again?

It's a fair question, but honestly, 40 for the trilogy + the newly translated DGS 1 and 2 is a pretty damn solid deal, since the DGSs probably would have been 40 each if they had released normally.

Smashingpmkns posted...
I still haven't beat the second. The circus case is a drag lol is the anime any good?

Can't speak on season 2, but I heard mixed things about season 1. The consensus seemed to be that it did a passable job of just telling the stories of the games, but that it was pretty rushed.

Questionmarktarius posted...
Are these VNs or not?


Essentially, yes. They have more gameplay than just pure VNs, though.

Sonic Cannon posted...
I can't remember if I played AAI2 or not. I definitely played at least the first one.
Anyway this is good news. AA series on DS was one of my favourite gaming experiences of all time.

If you haven't, I highly recommend it. AAI2 is tied with AA3 as my favorite AA in the series.

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dotsdfe
11/17/20 1:51:11 AM
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As for AA4 and opinions on it...ehhhh. 4-1 is a top tier case, and 4-2 is a pretty good filler case. I hated 4-3, and 4-4 had some massive structural problems that made it a good deal worse for me.

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Questionmarktarius
11/17/20 1:51:21 AM
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dotsdfe posted...
They have more gameplay tharln just pure VNs, though.
Go on...
Shadowgate, or Danganronpa?
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dotsdfe
11/17/20 1:53:31 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Go on...
Shadowgate, or Danganronpa?

Danganronpa is a really good comparison. The two series have really similar structures in terms of being investigations where you find evidence and talk to characters -> trials where you use said evidence to point out contradictions. They're very different in other respects, but you can make a solid comparison in terms of their gameplay and structure.

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Questionmarktarius
11/17/20 1:55:12 AM
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dotsdfe posted...
Danganronpa is a really good comparison.
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DeadBankerDream
11/17/20 3:12:06 AM
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If you plan to play the franchise you should play Apollo Justice for context.

The game is really bad, though. People enjoy 4-1 a lot and sure I'll let them have it, but excluding the bloody tutorial, there's not one good case to be had.

I do like Klavier as a character, though. Sure, he's not as mean spirited as other prosecutors, but there's room for that, IMO, and he does what he does well.
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MrMallard
11/17/20 3:15:57 AM
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I hope you can purchase the add-on games separately. I already own the Phoenix Wright trilogy on Switch.

4/5/6 would be great though. I'm nearly finished with Trials and Tribulations, which is the one game from the original trilogy that I haven't finished before. I was hoping for the Apollo game some time in the future, just to tide me over once TnT is done, but a second collection would be fan-fucking-tastic.

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dotsdfe
11/17/20 4:14:12 PM
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MrMallard posted...
I hope you can purchase the add-on games separately. I already own the Phoenix Wright trilogy on Switch.

4/5/6 would be great though. I'm nearly finished with Trials and Tribulations, which is the one game from the original trilogy that I haven't finished before. I was hoping for the Apollo game some time in the future, just to tide me over once TnT is done, but a second collection would be fan-fucking-tastic.

From what I've heard, it seems to be planned for an all-in-one thing for 40. I own the trilogy port too, but I'm fine rebuying it to get two all new games to me for 40. I'm hoping we get the physical version if this is all real, because I'd love to have that for collection's sake.

DeadBankerDream posted...
If you plan to play the franchise you should play Apollo Justice for context.

The game is really bad, though. People enjoy 4-1 a lot and sure I'll let them have it, but excluding the bloody tutorial, there's not one good case to be had.

I do like Klavier as a character, though. Sure, he's not as mean spirited as other prosecutors, but there's room for that, IMO, and he does what he does well.

Yeah, AJ is pretty crucial for the series story. I think you'd miss out on a lot in AA5 and 6 if you missed it, especially in terms of Apollo's growth, which ends up being a really strong arc by the end of 6.

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DoGCyN
11/17/20 4:22:00 PM
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I have yet to start playing Dual Destinies after I finished Apollo Justice.

Then I still have to play Spirit of Justice

People keep telling me these two games suck so I havent even started them

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DoGCyN
11/17/20 4:25:21 PM
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Conflict posted...
I don't know who you're hearing that from, because neither of those games suck. Though Dual Destinies has by far the worst final villain of any game in the franchise
People here on CE told me so awhile ago :( (that those two games sucked)

Although they also compared them to the previous games.

I will admit that I did not really like Apollo Justice. The first case was great, but every case after that was meh

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DeadBankerDream
11/17/20 4:25:45 PM
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If you like Ace Attorney casually you won't have any, or many issues with Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice.

For me personally they have a couple of cases and characters I really like, but overall, my perception is very negative.

Conflict posted...
It had its enjoyable moments though. I liked Trucy better than Maya and I'm glad they kept her around for the games that followed. My overall opinion of the game is probably still higher than PW2's which just flat out sucks outside of 2-4.

I wouldn't mind Trucy if they actually did something with her rather than just having her be there. I mean I guess she got a case in SoJ, but even then she felt very decentralized in it. Compare her to the return of Maya in the same game. And especially I hate that hanging plot thread from Apollo Justice they're just refusing to address.

Also, Justice for All is really underrated and one of the series' best games, >_>
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dotsdfe
11/17/20 4:27:12 PM
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Conflict posted...
Apollo Justice suffers from very poor pacing without the overall quality of plot to support it, and a pretty bad ending that doesn't really make Apollo himself look competent. Plus, disbarred Phoenix was just... kind of a douche.

It had its enjoyable moments though. I liked Trucy better than Maya and I'm glad they kept her around for the games that followed. My overall opinion of the game is probably still higher than PW2's which just flat out sucks outside of 2-4.

I like AA2. 2-1 sucks, and 2-3 I'm mixed on (It has some really annoying aspects, but I think it handles death and how people cope with it better than almost any case in the entire series), but 2-4 is top tier (it's my third favorite case behind I2-5 & 3-5), and 2-2 is just fantastic as well. I'd put both 2-2 and 2-4 in my top ten for the series, which is a solid average since that's half the game. I also personally hate 2-3 less than most.

DoGCyN posted...
I have yet to start playing Dual Destinies after I finished Apollo Justice.

Then I still have to play Spirit of Justice

People keep telling me these two games suck so I havent even started them


I personally disagree there. AA5 is a bit iffy, IMO, for really dialing up the "anime" factor of the game, but AA6 is amazing and is probably my third favorite game in the series, which is saying a lot since AA is my favorite game series of all time.

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DoGCyN
11/17/20 4:29:23 PM
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dotsdfe posted...
I personally disagree there. AA5 is a bit iffy, IMO, for really dialing up the "anime" factor of the game, but AA6 is amazing and is probably my third favorite game in the series, which is saying a lot since AA is my favorite game series of all time.
Fair enough. I guess I'll burn through them. DD here I come.

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DeadBankerDream
11/17/20 4:30:31 PM
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A lot of people claim you should play the DLC case in Dual Destinies after the main game's second case.

This is silly and it should be saved until after the end of the game.

The correct time to play Spirit of Justice's DLC case is "Never"
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skermac
11/17/20 4:30:50 PM
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Is jim carey a voice actor in it?

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dotsdfe
11/17/20 4:39:55 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
A lot of people claim you should play the DLC case in Dual Destinies after the main game's second case.

This is silly and it should be saved until after the end of the game.

The correct time to play Spirit of Justice's DLC case is "Never"

I personally see 5's DLC case as just a bonus. You can basically insert it anywhere and be fine since it doesn't overly tie into the main story or anything. I think it's fine to save it to the end, but playing it in the middle works too.

6-6....yeah, that case is bad, sadly. Its main draw is pure nostalgia for reuniting the Phoenix/Maya/Edgeworth/Larry gang and having them all be together. Past that, the case's plot is very weak (and I called the big twist of the case in the opening scene) and Ellen is a horribly unlikable defendant. I did like aspects of the plot, and Sorin & Nichody were both decent characters, at least.

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NeonOctopus
11/17/20 7:25:23 PM
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I remember something really dumb happening in Dual Destinies where there's some security tape that literally no one checked for like 7 years and they finally watched the whole thing and saw a new suspicious man in it lol. Like come on >_>

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