Current Events > Twitch says streamers should mute the games to avoid being taken down.

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LightningAce11
11/12/20 4:32:34 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/TwitchSupport/status/1326638989974106112

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NightRender
11/12/20 4:34:12 PM
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The clown emoji has never been more warranted

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Blue_Inigo
11/12/20 4:34:24 PM
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Well it's gonna be interesting to see who streams Cyberpunk

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King_Hutton
11/12/20 4:35:35 PM
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What happened to provoke this?

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BeyondWalls
11/12/20 4:35:45 PM
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Well... Twitch didnt last long.

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BeyondWalls
11/12/20 4:36:31 PM
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King_Hutton posted...
What happened to provoke this?
Twitch got big enough for media companies to start invoking copyright claims.

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SSJKirby
11/12/20 4:36:34 PM
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Twitch currently imploding

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LinkDaLunatic
11/12/20 4:36:47 PM
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but should we be mad at twitch or the copyright holders that want to sue them or both?
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cjsdowg
11/12/20 4:38:00 PM
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Hell is seems like the only people who are happy about the is the RIAA and the people who get upset with Streamers making a living .

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CommonStar
11/12/20 4:38:13 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Well it's gonna be interesting to see who streams Cyberpunk
I heard they made all their music in-house so it should be fine.
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Thompson
11/12/20 4:38:56 PM
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Twitch in the future will consist of people facecamming as they narrate what they're doing in the game they're playing.

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refmon
11/12/20 4:39:10 PM
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Do you think streamers would get get hit with a copyright claim if they just sang a song on stream?

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wackyteen
11/12/20 4:39:22 PM
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Oh yes

Just take away a key component of the experience

Like that'll make anyone happy

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King_Hutton
11/12/20 4:43:09 PM
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BeyondWalls posted...
Twitch got big enough for media companies to start invoking copyright claims.
Which companies though? Like is it just the game music or is it the game itself?

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SquirtleSkwad
11/12/20 4:44:27 PM
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And I was just about to give their service a try.

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Heavy_D_Forever
11/12/20 4:46:07 PM
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https://m.twitch.tv/directory/game/FUSER

Like how is Twitch gonna handle this game? The whole point is mixing licensed music together lol

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SquirtleSkwad
11/12/20 4:47:07 PM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
https://m.twitch.tv/directory/game/FUSER

Like how is Twitch gonna handle this game? The whole point is mixing licensed music together lol
Can you even play Guitar Hero on Twitch because of this?

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WilliamPorygon
11/12/20 4:51:32 PM
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wackyteen posted...
Oh yes

Just take away a key component of the experience

Like that'll make anyone happy

It'll make the greedy billionaire FUCKS who own the mainstream music industry happy

refmon posted...
Do you think streamers would get get hit with a copyright claim if they just sang a song on stream?

I wouldn't be surprised if streamers started getting hit for thinking of a song on stream anymore


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joe40001
11/12/20 9:53:52 PM
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Twitch was fun while it lasted

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Frosted_Midna
11/14/20 7:17:34 AM
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Twitch is gonna die some day.

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Hornezz
11/14/20 7:46:08 AM
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Not sure why the anger is directed at Twitch, what are you all expecting them to do here?

The criticism should be going towards game publishers who use music that doesn't have the adequate licensing for streaming. Or towards the music's rightsholders who aggressively pursue DMCA take downs.

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Questionmarktarius
11/14/20 2:41:41 PM
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The solution here would be for Amazon to form agreements with the various clearinghouses, and establish some sort of statutory license system.

"Yes you can use that dumb Smashmouth song in your stream, but it'll cost you fifty dollars, plus four cents for everyone who hears it."
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ReggieBush09
11/14/20 2:47:01 PM
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NBA 2k muted their in game music automatically for about five years now.

They knew this was coming.

2k plays nothing but rap and hip hop.


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Abiz_
11/14/20 3:07:03 PM
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Conflict posted...


People have been playing rhythm games on Twitch for ages, with the licensed music being muted in VODs. But yea, this DMCA policy will definitely throw a wrench into that
I was watching a streamer do a promotion stream for a music game called Fuser. The developers of Fuser told him to delete the vods so he doesn't get strike with a DMCA.
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AbstraktProfSC2
11/14/20 3:07:24 PM
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Hornezz posted...
Not sure why the anger is directed at Twitch, what are you all expecting them to do here?

The same thing youtube and facebook are doing at least?
You can play music as long as its not the main focus of the stream

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Irony
11/14/20 3:08:03 PM
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Time to dump Twitch

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Srk700
11/14/20 3:10:32 PM
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refmon posted...
Do you think streamers would get get hit with a copyright claim if they just sang a song on stream?

IIRC there were YouTubers that were hit with it just from humming part of a licensed song, so yeah I could definitely see that happening on Twitch too.
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Comfy_Pillow
11/14/20 3:11:54 PM
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Can't you just turn off the option to record vods and strictly do live content?
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Abiz_
11/14/20 3:13:54 PM
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Comfy_Pillow posted...
Can't you just turn off the option to record vods and strictly do live content?
They still hit people with DMCA. It doesn't matter with the way Twitch punishes the streamers. People deleted all their vods, but the right holders still got ahold of the videos and hit them with dmca.
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Wireless
11/14/20 3:22:37 PM
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It's fucking simple. Don't broadcast copyrighted material if you haven't paid for the right to do so. It's not that difficult to understand. JFC. Kids these days think they are owed the fucking world.
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Irony
11/14/20 3:26:57 PM
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Wireless posted...
It's fucking simple. Don't broadcast copyrighted material if you haven't paid for the right to do so. It's not that difficult to understand. JFC. Kids these days think they are owed the fucking world.
Whose alt

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Ruddager
11/14/20 3:28:52 PM
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Wireless posted...
It's fucking simple. Don't broadcast copyrighted material if you haven't paid for the right to do so. It's not that difficult to understand. JFC. Kids these days think they are owed the fucking world.

Someone was hit because themselves talking to the ghost in phasmophobia

Someone was hit because of a sound effect in Persona 5

Someone was hit because some heavy metal song uses a sound from the game they were playing as a sample

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Wireless
11/14/20 3:29:42 PM
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Conflict posted...
I'm glad you decided to hop on a throwaway alt to make one post enlightening us all that you don't remotely understand nuance
You obviously have no clue about theft of material.
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Funkydog
11/14/20 3:31:34 PM
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I'm honestly surprised it took this long for the music industry to extend it's reach. Not like twitch only just now blew up and not several years ago. Was inevitable sadly, and twitch being so unprepared is inexcusable.

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BlockAddition
11/14/20 3:33:46 PM
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You mean these twitch superstars might have to be entertaining rather than rely on the game for views and money lol

lol oh bleeding heart bleeds have fun in the real world lol

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Hornezz
11/14/20 3:34:03 PM
#39:


AbstraktProfSC2 posted...
The same thing youtube and facebook are doing at least?
You can play music as long as its not the main focus of the stream
You definitely cannot just freely use copyrighted music as a background noise in videos on youtube. AFAIK the copyrightholders can get videos muted, deleted or claim the monetization.

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Flaming_Fire619
11/14/20 3:37:44 PM
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AbstraktProfSC2 posted...
The same thing youtube and facebook are doing at least?
You can play music as long as its not the main focus of the stream

That's not really up to Twitch. That's up to Amazon which let's be real isn't that interested in benefitting Twitch outside of the Amazon Prime sub and free stuff. Twitch as an entity cannot afford what the music industry would be asking for this arrangement. If you want to complain to anyone complain about the parent company

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AbstraktProfSC2
11/14/20 4:15:10 PM
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Flaming_Fire619 posted...
That's not really up to Twitch. That's up to Amazon which let's be real isn't that interested in benefitting Twitch outside of the Amazon Prime sub and free stuff. Twitch as an entity cannot afford what the music industry would be asking for this arrangement. If you want to complain to anyone complain about the parent company
no?
its happening on twitch. twitch is what we're talking about in this entire topic
my point stands. thats what they SHOULD do instead of telling people to play with muted streams.
talk about who owns what all you want. doesnt change anything

Hornezz posted...
You definitely cannot just freely use copyrighted music as a background noise in videos on youtube. AFAIK the copyrightholders can get videos muted, deleted or claim the monetization.

im very aware but i wasnt referring to videos

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untrustful
11/14/20 4:26:39 PM
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WHEN I READ STUFF LIKE THIS IT MAKES ME WANT TO PICK UP COPYRIGHT LAW AND BREAK IT'S BACK IN HALF

ahhhhhhhh so stupid

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yunalenne10
11/14/20 4:35:37 PM
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My girl isn't even allowed to sing karaoke anymore!

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MixedRaceBaby
11/14/20 4:37:19 PM
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i guess its time to switch to mixe.... awww SHIT

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Sir Will
11/14/20 4:40:09 PM
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LinkDaLunatic posted...
but should we be mad at twitch or the copyright holders that want to sue them or both?
Both. Music companies have always been insane with this. But Twitch also had to know this was coming. They're lucky they were ignored as long as they were. They were not at all prepared for the sudden barrage of claims and are screwing over their users.

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wackyteen
11/14/20 4:57:59 PM
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dave_is_slick
11/14/20 5:06:43 PM
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Wireless posted...
It's fucking simple. Don't broadcast copyrighted material if you haven't paid for the right to do so. It's not that difficult to understand. JFC. Kids these days think they are owed the fucking world.
Who's alt?

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