Current Events > Square Enix lost $63 mil on Marvel's Avengers

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https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1324860595653517313

Only sold 3 million copies. Whoops.
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Probably shouldn't have hired the budget Avengers

And also got it out at a time when people where still hyped about superheroes

oof

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3 million is way too many.

I'm sure the takeaway from this will be that it just wasn't monetized hard enough and needed more online only components.

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Literal example of dropping the ball. Probably using RDJ likeness alone would recoup the money

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I gave target 30 bones for a copy today

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It reminded me of Brutal Legend. It started off as one thing then turned into something else that was shitty. SE and Disney should have kept their noses out of it.

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What is this guys source? That seems like far to much. Especially considering the game was barely advertised at all.

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I'd love to say hopefully this will teach them and others a lesson but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqIqSi3iy8Y

really sad because I have dreamed of a game like this for years. I always wondered why nobody made a big budget Avengers game. And then someone finally does but they fuck it up. why did it need to be that stupid ass Game as a Service bullshit? just make a normal fucking game. they were able to do it with PS4 Spider-Man. why not this?

Prismsblade posted...

What is this guys source? That seems like far to much. Especially considering the game was barely advertised at all.

...It's a Marvel game.
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Zikten posted...

really sad because I have dreamed of a game like this for years. I always wondered why nobody made a big budget Avengers game.

Not Avengers per say, but Marvel Ultimate Alliance was a pretty great game, that involved a lot of Marvel's finest!

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Kajagogo posted...

Not Avengers per say, but Marvel Ultimate Alliance was a pretty great game, that involved a lot of Marvel's finest!

Yeah, my perfect Avengers game would basically just be MUA swapped into a more traditional third person action game. Seems fairly simple.

Zikten posted...

really sad because I have dreamed of a game like this for years. I always wondered why nobody made a big budget Avengers game. And then someone finally does but they fuck it up. why did it need to be that stupid ass Game as a Service bullshit? just make a normal fucking game. they were able to do it with PS4 Spider-Man. why not this?

It's strange because Crystal Dynamics are great at big detailed cinematic games like Tomb Raider. Why didn't they just do that here? Should have gone SP campaign only and really made something amazing.

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The live service aspect hurt the game. It was obviously designed to be a single player experience that got shifted to be a multiplayer destiny style looting game midway in its production. The story mode vs the other side mission just shows as much.

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Nothing about the pre-release material indicated to me it was ever designed like a single-player experience and shifted to live service. Looked like it was designed from the ground up to be live service shit.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Nothing about the pre-release material indicated to me it was ever designed like a single-player experience and shifted to live service. Looked like it was designed from the ground up to be live service shit.

If you played the game, it becomes pretty obvious otherwise. Every person that I talked to that has played the game all say the same thing.

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This is a good thing and we should all be glad it happened.
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it was fun for like the first two weeks

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Prestoff posted...

If you played the game, it becomes pretty obvious otherwise. Every person that I talked to that has played the game all say the same thing.

Alright.
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It was a monument to publisher greed including nearly every shady and shitty monetization practice you could think of. I'm glad it failed.

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Who think making a full priced game with boat loads of micro transaction was such a good idea?

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Developers need to wake up to the fact people only have so much time to play service games, so if you release one it better be damn good.

From everything I heard this was fun for maybe a few hours and then became repetitive as fuck.

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The worst thing about this is that Marvel/Disney is probably not going to pursue many other video games outside of the Spiderman games now.

The new mobile game looks better than the SE Avengers game lol
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When they showed off that reveal footage of the prologue and then afterwards said that it was a live service game, the one thought I remember having "So you're just gonna do the same four basic smashing combos with Hulk or [insert character] for hundreds of hours?
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More inspired character designs, a fully fleshed out lenghty (25 hr+) campaign and this wouldve sold twice that. Maybe add online components later, but my hype died when I found it was mainly a multiplayer online game.

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Prismsblade posted...

Especially considering the game was barely advertised at all.

This is utter horse shit. They ran ads on every website. I saw commercials on TV and even some of the major podcasts I listen to had ad reads for it.

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I played this for a few hours till a bit after meeting Banner.

It seemed fun but got pretty boring because the first couple of missions seemed like the same shit again and again. So I stopped playing.

Though I don't understand the "games as a service" thing. What's missing that requires more money?

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I got it for free from my cell carrier as some promotion, lol. It's... okay? I would've been annoyed if I paid $60 for it or whatever, but I like comic booky stuff and it was sort of fun the little I played of it--but it feels like a budget game, no way it should've had the massive budget it apparently did.

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archedsoul posted...

Though I don't understand the "games as a service" thing. What's missing that requires more money?

Nothing. People just don't like the idea of paying more money for more things.

archedsoul posted...

I played this for a few hours till a bit after meeting Banner.

It seemed fun but got pretty boring because the first couple of missions seemed like the same shit again and again. So I stopped playing.

Though I don't understand the "games as a service" thing. What's missing that requires more money?

Cosmetics, emotes, new finishers and if you want to hurry up and unlock stuff from a characters "season pass" card. Otherwise the new dlc characters that get released are free.... too bad they missed the deadline for it lol.

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specialkid8 posted...

Nothing. People just don't like the idea of paying more money for more things.

This is a ridiculously ignorant comment. Educate yourself.

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If vgchartz is even close to being not-bullshit, this puts it roughly on par with Lego Marvel's Avengers.
"AAA" couldn't even beat out a Lego game.

3 million copies?
How much did the games sell for??
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How do you fuck up a literal avengers game this badly? Only Square could go something so stupid on so many levels.

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Cornhuskers posted...

3 million copies?
How much did the games sell for??

$60

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If selling 3 million isnt good enough, you fucked up

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Blue_Inigo posted...

If selling 3 million isnt good enough, you fucked up

Yeah selling 3 million copies is a lot.

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SE is known for unreasonable expectations. I remember they considered the Tomb Raider game a failure too.

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Vyrulisse posted...

SE is known for unreasonable expectations. I remember they considered the Tomb Raider game a failure too.

They can fuck right off with that. The developers made three great games and deserve nothing but praise.

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The game looked too corporate for my liking.

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Games as a service isn't it's problem. It's simply not fun to play. The missions and gameplay are incredibly mediocre. Multiplayer doesn't really gain anything from playing with others. Leveling up takes too long and there's no point in really upgrading gear or trying to create a certain build because you'll outgrow it in two missions. It was buggy af at launch. Even the bull of the cosmetics are terrible. A slightly different colored Hulk is not a rewarding thing to earn. There's a lot that went wrong here.

How anyone played through the hours of tutorials in the single player is beyond me. Running around collecting comics as a little girl. Tutorials for every single character back to back. Then a tutorial level on how to jump, climb and sneak. It's the most frustrating start to a game I've ever played.

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Vyrulisse posted...

SE is known for unreasonable expectations. I remember they considered the Tomb Raider game a failure too.

Yeah, I remember that bullshit. What the fuck do they consider a success?

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The X Dawg posted...

3 million is way too many.

Does this count the $$$$ Sony paid for spiderman?