Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 340: Back That AZ Up

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red sox 777 11/06/20 3:01:47 AM #152:	LordoftheMorons posted... actually laughed out loud at this one He doesn't feel stress about criticism. He just fires back. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:946801030] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>actually laughed out loud at this one</quote> He doesn't feel stress about criticism. He just fires back. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/06/20 3:03:24 AM #153:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... Look your mistake here is thinking that not having total power means they don't have any power. Off the top of my head, they waffled on the Mueller Report, they capitulate to Republicans to avoid government shutdowns, and during impeachment proceedings they did not even try at any point to have Trump's accomplices arrested for contempt of congress which they would have been well within their rights to do! They're just scared of looking divisive, which is a separate issue. They still have powers. I was specifically talking about healthcare though. Your initial post made it sound like it was democrats fault they ran on healthcare and then didn't improve it. And it's like...it was impossible. They protected your healthcare. They stopped Republicans from completely dismantling it like they had been trying the previous two years. That is the extent of their power in regards to healthcare though. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946801060] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted... </cite> <quote>Look your mistake here is thinking that not having total power means they don't have any power. Off the top of my head, they waffled on the Mueller Report, they capitulate to Republicans to avoid government shutdowns, and during impeachment proceedings they did not even try at any point to have Trump's accomplices arrested for contempt of congress which they would have been well within their rights to do! They're just scared of looking divisive, which is a separate issue. They still have powers.</quote> I was specifically talking about healthcare though. Your initial post made it sound like it was democrats fault they ran on healthcare and then didn't improve it. And it's like...it was impossible. They protected your healthcare. They stopped Republicans from completely dismantling it like they had been trying the previous two years. That is the extent of their power in regards to healthcare though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 11/06/20 3:05:12 AM #154:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Theres also we have many arrows in our quiver about ACB, and then she skated comfortably to the Supreme Court, and in fact the Republicans were complimented for their handling of it lol Oh yeah and the kicker on that one is it might have even cost them Maine's senate seat. They don't have to pick every fight but they should be picking more, since people don't seem to know what the rules are let alone care if they're followed --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:946801091] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>Theres also we have many arrows in our quiver about ACB, and then she skated comfortably to the Supreme Court, and in fact the Republicans were complimented for their handling of it lol</quote> Oh yeah and the kicker on that one is it might have even cost them Maine's senate seat. They don't have to pick every fight but they should be picking more, since people don't seem to know what the rules are let alone care if they're followed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/06/20 3:05:23 AM #155:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Theres also we have many arrows in our quiver about ACB, and then she skated comfortably to the Supreme Court, and in fact the Republicans were complimented for their handling of it lol What arrows did they legitimately have though? Like what could they have done to stop things if Mitch really wanted to force her through? Like if you're going to point to Diane Feinstein being a complete and utter failure, then yes. She needs to go. Fire her out of a cannon into the nearest retirement home and replace her with someone better ASAP. (We did try to do this two years ago btw but were unsuccessful - progressive hear failed to get their message out, not democrats because this should've been an easy primary in California) --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946801096] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>Theres also we have many arrows in our quiver about ACB, and then she skated comfortably to the Supreme Court, and in fact the Republicans were complimented for their handling of it lol</quote> What arrows did they legitimately have though? Like what could they have done to stop things if Mitch really wanted to force her through? Like if you're going to point to Diane Feinstein being a complete and utter failure, then yes. She needs to go. Fire her out of a cannon into the nearest retirement home and replace her with someone better ASAP. (We did try to do this two years ago btw but were unsuccessful - progressive hear failed to get their message out, not democrats because this should've been an easy primary in California) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 11/06/20 3:06:08 AM #156:	I still have no idea what Pelosi meant by "arrows in the quiver" when it came to stalling the Barrett hearings and think it was mistake to say. The only idea I heard floated that sounded like it might actually be able to interfere with the Senate calender was just flooding the Senate with impeachment trials to deal with... but my understanding is that if it came to that McConnell could have those run super quickly so even that likely couldn't do much, certainly not enough to successfully block her. And I think Dems would suffer if Pelosi just kept impeaching people - even if there are no lack of individuals in the administration who absolutely deserve it. I think she probably could have gotten by with DeJoy and perhaps Barr but if she kept going the public would have turned on Dems. No evidence though, just speculation. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:946801114] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>I still have no idea what Pelosi meant by "arrows in the quiver" when it came to stalling the Barrett hearings and think it was mistake to say. The only idea I heard floated that sounded like it might actually be able to interfere with the Senate calender was just flooding the Senate with impeachment trials to deal with... but my understanding is that if it came to that McConnell could have those run super quickly so even that likely couldn't do much, certainly not enough to successfully block her. And I think Dems would suffer if Pelosi just kept impeaching people - even if there are no lack of individuals in the administration who absolutely deserve it. I think she probably could have gotten by with DeJoy and perhaps Barr but if she kept going the public would have turned on Dems. No evidence though, just speculation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/06/20 3:06:19 AM #157:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... Oh yeah and the kicker on that one is it might have even cost them Maine's senate seat. They don't have to pick every fight but they should be picking more, since people don't seem to know what the rules are let alone care if they're followed No, we lost that seat by 14. That wasn't going to happen with Gideon, even with Biden's coattails. Oh, it's 11.5 now. Good job, Gideon! You did slightly better than the SC senate race! --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946801117] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted... </cite> <quote>Oh yeah and the kicker on that one is it might have even cost them Maine's senate seat. They don't have to pick every fight but they should be picking more, since people don't seem to know what the rules are let alone care if they're followed</quote> No, we lost that seat by 14. That wasn't going to happen with Gideon, even with Biden's coattails. Oh, it's 11.5 now. Good job, Gideon! You did slightly better than the SC senate race! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 11/06/20 3:12:55 AM #158:	Suprak the Stud posted... I was specifically talking about healthcare though. Your initial post made it sound like it was democrats fault they ran on healthcare and then didn't improve it. And it's like...it was impossible. They protected your healthcare. They stopped Republicans from completely dismantling it like they had been trying the previous two years. That is the extent of their power in regards to healthcare though. That's fair. Short of shutting down the government as the nuclear option they don't have too much influence on Senate legislature A tangent, but Bernie promised a "political revolution" to put pressure on Senators but even he didn't have the balls to outright say "as President I'll just call for a general strike until I get what I want" --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:946801250] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>I was specifically talking about healthcare though. Your initial post made it sound like it was democrats fault they ran on healthcare and then didn't improve it. And it's like...it was impossible. They protected your healthcare. They stopped Republicans from completely dismantling it like they had been trying the previous two years. That is the extent of their power in regards to healthcare though.</quote> That's fair. Short of shutting down the government as the nuclear option they don't have too much influence on Senate legislature A tangent, but Bernie promised a "political revolution" to put pressure on Senators but even he didn't have the balls to outright say "as President I'll just call for a general strike until I get what I want" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 11/06/20 3:23:01 AM #159:	xp1337 posted... I still have no idea what Pelosi meant by "arrows in the quiver" when it came to stalling the Barrett hearings and think it was mistake to say. The only idea I heard floated that sounded like it might actually be able to interfere with the Senate calender was just flooding the Senate with impeachment trials to deal with... but my understanding is that if it came to that McConnell could have those run super quickly so even that likely couldn't do much, certainly not enough to successfully block her. And I think Dems would suffer if Pelosi just kept impeaching people - even if there are no lack of individuals in the administration who absolutely deserve it. I think she probably could have gotten by with DeJoy and perhaps Barr but if she kept going the public would have turned on Dems. No evidence though, just speculation. The galaxy brain move is to stall by saying ACB is fine but in that case you have to impeach Gorsuch --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:946801411] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>xp1337 posted... </cite> <quote>I still have no idea what Pelosi meant by "arrows in the quiver" when it came to stalling the Barrett hearings and think it was mistake to say. The only idea I heard floated that sounded like it might actually be able to interfere with the Senate calender was just flooding the Senate with impeachment trials to deal with... but my understanding is that if it came to that McConnell could have those run super quickly so even that likely couldn't do much, certainly not enough to successfully block her. And I think Dems would suffer if Pelosi just kept impeaching people - even if there are no lack of individuals in the administration who absolutely deserve it. I think she probably could have gotten by with DeJoy and perhaps Barr but if she kept going the public would have turned on Dems. No evidence though, just speculation.</quote> The galaxy brain move is to stall by saying ACB is fine but in that case you have to impeach Gorsuch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StartTheMachine 11/06/20 3:29:15 AM #160:	~600 vote spread in Georgia now. Beautiful. --- - Blur - Welcome to your Divinity. <cite>StartTheMachine posted [p:946801515] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>~600 vote spread in Georgia now. Beautiful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/06/20 3:34:09 AM #161:	One more update Georgia. C'mon. I want to go to sleep. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946801596] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>One more update Georgia. C'mon. I want to go to sleep. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 11/06/20 3:39:14 AM #162:	Fully expect to see Biden leading both PA and GA when I wake up. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:946801702] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Fully expect to see Biden leading both PA and GA when I wake up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 11/06/20 3:41:33 AM #163:	Suprak the Stud posted... One more update Georgia. C'mon. I want to go to sleep. there is some massive "a watched pot never boils" energy with GA right now lol --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:946801749] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>One more update Georgia. C'mon. I want to go to sleep.</quote>there is some massive "a watched pot never boils" energy with GA right now lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/06/20 3:43:41 AM #164:	Oh for fuck's sake. Last time I wish on a monkey's paw. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946801785] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Oh for fuck's sake. Last time I wish on a monkey's paw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 11/06/20 3:44:29 AM #165:	georgia: nothing personnel, kid --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:946801798] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>georgia: nothing personnel, kid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 11/06/20 3:46:29 AM #166:	Suprak the Stud posted... Oh for fuck's sake. Last time I wish on a monkey's paw. Bruh you had me freaking that Trump had cut or something. Word your shit! --- ACAB <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:946801830] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>Oh for fuck's sake. Last time I wish on a monkey's paw.</quote> Bruh you had me freaking that Trump had cut or something. Word your shit! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 11/06/20 3:48:20 AM #167:	Biden needs 52.52% Pfffffffff --- ACAB <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:946801868] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Biden needs 52.52% Pfffffffff </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 11/06/20 3:51:27 AM #168:	He needs 52.52% in GA and 52.67% in PA! --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:946801942] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>He needs 52.52% in GA and 52.67% in PA! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 11/06/20 3:53:57 AM #169:	Just so people know, Biden cut just over 200 votes. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:946801985] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Just so people know, Biden cut just over 200 votes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/06/20 3:57:09 AM #170:	UshiromiyaEva posted... Bruh you had me freaking that Trump had cut or something. Word your shit! Lmao sorry. Didn't mean to give you a heart attack. For clarification: I said one more update c'mon because if it was an update of the same size or close to it, Biden jumps to the lead. Instead they dropped some minuscule batch of 300 and the lead was only cut down to 463. No cause for panic! I'm just impatient. xp1337 posted... georgia: nothing personnel, kid I do feel personally attacked here. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946802037] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote>Bruh you had me freaking that Trump had cut or something. Word your shit!</quote> Lmao sorry. Didn't mean to give you a heart attack. For clarification: I said one more update c'mon because if it was an update of the same size or close to it, Biden jumps to the lead. Instead they dropped some minuscule batch of 300 and the lead was only cut down to 463. No cause for panic! I'm just impatient. xp1337 posted... </cite> <quote>georgia: nothing personnel, kid</quote> I do feel personally attacked here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 11/06/20 4:11:18 AM #171:	Mathematically speaking it was a really good update But when we're so close... --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:946802235] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Mathematically speaking it was a really good update But when we're so close... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RikkuAlmighty 11/06/20 4:18:42 AM #172:	this election has kept me up late enough to snag a 3070 order so thanks, georiga. <cite>RikkuAlmighty posted [p:946802334] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>this election has kept me up late enough to snag a 3070 order so thanks, georiga. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 11/06/20 4:24:25 AM #173:	lead change Biden up 917. (1824 more came in from Clayton.) --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:946802448] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>lead change Biden up 917. (1824 more came in from Clayton.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StartTheMachine 11/06/20 4:24:33 AM #174:	Guys I'm starting to realize this whole staying up waiting for the results thing is kind of silly If you go to bed you'll wake up and it will be over --- - Blur - Welcome to your Divinity. <cite>StartTheMachine posted [p:946802449] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Guys I'm starting to realize this whole staying up waiting for the results thing is kind of silly If you go to bed you'll wake up and it will be over </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RikkuAlmighty 11/06/20 4:26:35 AM #175:	StartTheMachine posted... Guys I'm starting to realize this whole staying up waiting for the results thing is kind of silly If you go to bed you'll wake up and it will be over did you not see my post. <cite>RikkuAlmighty posted [p:946802484] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>StartTheMachine posted... </cite> <quote>Guys I'm starting to realize this whole staying up waiting for the results thing is kind of silly If you go to bed you'll wake up and it will be over</quote>did you not see my post. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 11/06/20 4:27:06 AM #176:	https://twitter.com/ErinKPeterson/status/1324643965543604224 --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:946802496] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/ErinKPeterson/status/1324643965543604224 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StartTheMachine 11/06/20 4:28:37 AM #177:	Nope but now I do and it is a beautiful post. The most beautiful post. Lots of people are saying it. --- - Blur - Welcome to your Divinity. <cite>StartTheMachine posted [p:946802527] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Nope but now I do and it is a beautiful post. The most beautiful post. Lots of people are saying it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/06/20 4:31:29 AM #178:	OH BABY IT WAS WORTH STAYING UP FOR Georgia welcome to the cool kids club. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946802579] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>OH BABY IT WAS WORTH STAYING UP FOR Georgia welcome to the cool kids club. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/06/20 4:31:48 AM #179:	Florida go kick rocks now and forever. We have a new southern friend. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946802587] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Florida go kick rocks now and forever. We have a new southern friend. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/06/20 4:32:48 AM #180:	Oooh baby Wynette County still outstanding too. Lets get those numbers up a bit more please. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946802601] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Oooh baby Wynette County still outstanding too. Lets get those numbers up a bit more please. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RikkuAlmighty 11/06/20 4:34:54 AM #181:	Suprak the Stud posted... Oooh baby Wynette County still outstanding too. Lets get those numbers up a bit more please. a recount is inevitable no matter what, right? <cite>RikkuAlmighty posted [p:946802636] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>Oooh baby Wynette County still outstanding too. Lets get those numbers up a bit more please.</quote>a recount is inevitable no matter what, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/06/20 4:38:08 AM #182:	Oh yes for sure. There is no way this gets above a full percent. But during recounts the most you ever find is like a couple hundred votes switching, and that would be a huge shift. So if after everything is counted if Biden can get to +2k or so, I'd feel pretty comfortable and not have to stress about the recount. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946802686] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Oh yes for sure. There is no way this gets above a full percent. But during recounts the most you ever find is like a couple hundred votes switching, and that would be a huge shift. So if after everything is counted if Biden can get to +2k or so, I'd feel pretty comfortable and not have to stress about the recount. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 11/06/20 4:41:41 AM #183:	British sport journalists celebrate Biden overtaking Trump in GA with football pictures, a curated selection: https://twitter.com/barneyronay/status/1324645062886723584 https://twitter.com/barneyronay/status/1324645439564636161 https://twitter.com/JacobSteinberg/status/1324646203745853440 https://twitter.com/JackPittBrooke/status/1324646994749628416 https://twitter.com/jonawils/status/1324647373784625155 --- Not to be confused with XIII_stones. https://imgur.com/agodP3r <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:946802747] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>British sport journalists celebrate Biden overtaking Trump in GA with football pictures, a curated selection: https://twitter.com/barneyronay/status/1324645062886723584 https://twitter.com/barneyronay/status/1324645439564636161 https://twitter.com/JacobSteinberg/status/1324646203745853440 https://twitter.com/JackPittBrooke/status/1324646994749628416 https://twitter.com/jonawils/status/1324647373784625155</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 11/06/20 4:42:03 AM #184:	the atlanta falcons are officially pardoned for all their chokes. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:946802753] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>the atlanta falcons are officially pardoned for all their chokes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 11/06/20 4:49:18 AM #185:	xp1337 posted... the atlanta falcons are officially pardoned for all their chokes. we're still in the 4th quarter <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:946802874] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>xp1337 posted... </cite> <quote>the atlanta falcons are officially pardoned for all their chokes.</quote>we're still in the 4th quarter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/06/20 4:49:18 AM #186:	Youre welcome for me taking a nap and missing the ballot drop, without which we would surely still be waiting...! --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:946802875] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Youre welcome for me taking a nap and missing the ballot drop, without which we would surely still be waiting...! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StartTheMachine 11/06/20 4:53:05 AM #187:	The fact that it was John Lewis's former district that pushed GA blue is the purest form of righteous justice. --- - Blur - Welcome to your Divinity. <cite>StartTheMachine posted [p:946802944] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>The fact that it was John Lewis's former district that pushed GA blue is the purest form of righteous justice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 11/06/20 5:15:47 AM #188:	Paratroopa1 posted... we're still in the 4th quarter --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:946803345] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted... </cite> <quote>we're still in the 4th quarter</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RaidenGarai 11/06/20 5:18:12 AM #189:	Im starting to think that we definitely wont hear more than one or two prominent Republicans speak out against Trumps attack on democracy. Theyre still afraid of losing his base going forward. If they want to run in 2024 or want him to help the party during the midterms, they cant disagree with him. Even if hes out of office hell still have a death grip on the cowards in the party. --- Epic Seven IGN ZeroThe13th <cite>RaidenGarai posted [p:946803394] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Im starting to think that we definitely wont hear more than one or two prominent Republicans speak out against Trumps attack on democracy. Theyre still afraid of losing his base going forward. If they want to run in 2024 or want him to help the party during the midterms, they cant disagree with him. Even if hes out of office hell still have a death grip on the cowards in the party. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 11/06/20 6:51:17 AM #190:	This seems like one of those close-on-paper but not really cases. --- Anyone who thinks Rey is a Mary Sue is effectively a misogynist. <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:946804739] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>This seems like one of those close-on-paper but not really cases. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 11/06/20 6:52:18 AM #191:	Im late to the party, but liberals seem really bad at realizing there are people who voted for Biden who never would have voted for someone more progressive. My extended family is super conservative, at least 5 people Ive talked to voted Democrat for the first time in their life, and all of them said it was super tough. saying stuff like people other than Biden would have won easily! Is complete conjecture --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:946804755] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Im late to the party, but liberals seem really bad at realizing there are people who voted for Biden who never would have voted for someone more progressive. My extended family is super conservative, at least 5 people Ive talked to voted Democrat for the first time in their life, and all of them said it was super tough. saying stuff like people other than Biden would have won easily! Is complete conjecture </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calintares 11/06/20 6:55:55 AM #192:	masterplum posted... Im late to the party, but liberals seem really bad at realizing there are people who voted for Biden who never would have voted for someone more progressive. My extended family is super conservative, at least 5 people Ive talked to voted Democrat for the first time in their life, and all of them said it was super tough. saying stuff like people other than Biden would have won easily! Is complete conjecture Biden got lucky. Without covid Trump flips these margins, with a somewhat decent handling of covid he easily wins. Democrats can't rely on being lucky, they can and must do better than Biden in the future. --- ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die. <cite>Calintares posted [p:946804826] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite> <quote>Im late to the party, but liberals seem really bad at realizing there are people who voted for Biden who never would have voted for someone more progressive. My extended family is super conservative, at least 5 people Ive talked to voted Democrat for the first time in their life, and all of them said it was super tough. saying stuff like people other than Biden would have won easily! Is complete conjecture</quote> Biden got lucky. Without covid Trump flips these margins, with a somewhat decent handling of covid he easily wins. Democrats can't rely on being lucky, they can and must do better than Biden in the future. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 11/06/20 6:57:34 AM #193:	We dont even know if Covid caused him to lose. For all we know the anti mask cultishness helped him appeal to minorities who already felt like the system was out to get them --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:946804855] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>We dont even know if Covid caused him to lose. For all we know the anti mask cultishness helped him appeal to minorities who already felt like the system was out to get them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fuming 11/06/20 6:58:24 AM #195:	A greater percentage of republicans voted for Trump this time than in 2016. Biden got votes more rich, less minority. I'm sure he did get votes that wouldn't vote for a more progressive candidate, and that has nothing to do with whether a more progressive candidate would have done as well. There is simply no way to ever know, but I anecdotally know many who would have only voted for a more progressive candidate that didn't vote Biden. Our experiences in small numbers mean nothing. <cite>fuming posted [p:946804877] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>A greater percentage of republicans voted for Trump this time than in 2016. Biden got votes more rich, less minority. I'm sure he did get votes that wouldn't vote for a more progressive candidate, and that has nothing to do with whether a more progressive candidate would have done as well. There is simply no way to ever know, but I anecdotally know many who would have only voted for a more progressive candidate that didn't vote Biden. Our experiences in small numbers mean nothing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/06/20 7:02:59 AM #196:	fuming posted... A greater percentage of republicans voted for Trump this time than in 2016. Biden got votes more rich, less minority. I'm sure he did get votes that wouldn't vote for a more progressive candidate, and that has nothing to do with whether a more progressive candidate would have done as well. There is simply no way to ever know, but I anecdotally know many who would have only voted for a more progressive candidate that didn't vote Biden. Our experiences in small numbers mean nothing. We don't actually know this until the exit polls are reweighted to the actual results (and even then they'll probably be less accurate than normal due to the difficulties of dealing with mail-in votes). In any case I think another part of this is that some 2016 Republicans have left the party since (we know this is true for party identity, though I don't know if there's data on people taking the extra step to change their party registration). --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:946804945] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>fuming posted... </cite> <quote>A greater percentage of republicans voted for Trump this time than in 2016. Biden got votes more rich, less minority. I'm sure he did get votes that wouldn't vote for a more progressive candidate, and that has nothing to do with whether a more progressive candidate would have done as well. There is simply no way to ever know, but I anecdotally know many who would have only voted for a more progressive candidate that didn't vote Biden. Our experiences in small numbers mean nothing.</quote>We don't actually know this until the exit polls are reweighted to the actual results (and even then they'll probably be less accurate than normal due to the difficulties of dealing with mail-in votes). In any case I think another part of this is that some 2016 Republicans have left the party since (we know this is true for party identity, though I don't know if there's data on people taking the extra step to change their party registration). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZenOfThunder 11/06/20 7:03:36 AM #197:	What are the chances Trump runs independently in 2024 and completely fucks any chance the GOP has --- (\|\| ' ' \|\|) "Your First Thought" - A (sometimes) daily topic series 'bout thinkin': . /\|_\|\ https://bit.ly/YFTB8 [azuarc] <cite>ZenOfThunder posted [p:946804954] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>What are the chances Trump runs independently in 2024 and completely fucks any chance the GOP has </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 11/06/20 7:04:18 AM #198:	Unless I misheard/misunderstood the military ballot situation in GA, there's not some pile of ballots they're sitting on to count, it's that GA knows how many ballots they sent out and how many they have not received and that's where that ~9000 ballot number comes from. The deadline for them receiving them is today so it's hypothetically possible for up to that number to arrive today and be included to the count but it's also possible that the recipients just decided not fill in/return the ballot. They've already counted and reported military ballots and the like they had already received. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:946804966] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Unless I misheard/misunderstood the military ballot situation in GA, there's not some pile of ballots they're sitting on to count, it's that GA knows how many ballots they sent out and how many they have not received and that's where that ~9000 ballot number comes from. The deadline for them receiving them is today so it's hypothetically possible for up to that number to arrive today and be included to the count but it's also possible that the recipients just decided not fill in/return the ballot. They've already counted and reported military ballots and the like they had already received. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 11/06/20 7:05:58 AM #199:	fuming posted... A greater percentage of republicans voted for Trump this time than in 2016. Biden got votes more rich, less minority. I'm sure he did get votes that wouldn't vote for a more progressive candidate, and that has nothing to do with whether a more progressive candidate would have done as well. There is simply no way to ever know, but I anecdotally know many who would have only voted for a more progressive candidate that didn't vote Biden. Our experiences in small numbers mean nothing. Exactly, so throwing down statements like Biden did worse than other candidates would have done is pure bullshit. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:946804987] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>fuming posted... </cite> <quote>A greater percentage of republicans voted for Trump this time than in 2016. Biden got votes more rich, less minority. I'm sure he did get votes that wouldn't vote for a more progressive candidate, and that has nothing to do with whether a more progressive candidate would have done as well. There is simply no way to ever know, but I anecdotally know many who would have only voted for a more progressive candidate that didn't vote Biden. Our experiences in small numbers mean nothing.</quote> Exactly, so throwing down statements like Biden did worse than other candidates would have done is pure bullshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 11/06/20 7:13:00 AM #200:	Calintares posted... Biden got lucky. Without covid Trump flips these margins, with a somewhat decent handling of covid he easily wins. Democrats can't rely on being lucky, they can and must do better than Biden in the future. No if Trump takes the pandemic even remotely seriously his base disowns him. His dancing around the pandemic reeks of PR stunts. I do think Biden may have underestimated Trump's reach with "everyday" folks, but other than a massive surge of votes on election day Trump has looked bad this whole election cycle. Though I never exactly expected this to be the end of "Trumpism" anyway. --- Anyone who thinks Rey is a Mary Sue is effectively a misogynist. <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:946805118] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>Calintares posted... </cite> <quote>Biden got lucky. Without covid Trump flips these margins, with a somewhat decent handling of covid he easily wins. Democrats can't rely on being lucky, they can and must do better than Biden in the future.</quote> No if Trump takes the pandemic even remotely seriously his base disowns him. His dancing around the pandemic reeks of PR stunts. I do think Biden may have underestimated Trump's reach with "everyday" folks, but other than a massive surge of votes on election day Trump has looked bad this whole election cycle. Though I never exactly expected this to be the end of "Trumpism" anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sorozone 11/06/20 7:24:14 AM #201:	xp1337 posted... Unless I misheard/misunderstood the military ballot situation in GA, there's not some pile of ballots they're sitting on to count, it's that GA knows how many ballots they sent out and how many they have not received and that's where that ~9000 ballot number comes from. The deadline for them receiving them is today so it's hypothetically possible for up to that number to arrive today and be included to the count but it's also possible that the recipients just decided not fill in/return the ballot. They've already counted and reported military ballots and the like they had already received. This is how I've been understanding it as well. --- https://m.twitch.tv/sorozone/profile <cite>Sorozone posted [p:946805295] in Politics C... [t:79089047]...</cite> <quote>xp1337 posted... </cite> <quote>Unless I misheard/misunderstood the military ballot situation in GA, there's not some pile of ballots they're sitting on to count, it's that GA knows how many ballots they sent out and how many they have not received and that's where that ~9000 ballot number comes from. The deadline for them receiving them is today so it's hypothetically possible for up to that number to arrive today and be included to the count but it's also possible that the recipients just decided not fill in/return the ballot. They've already counted and reported military ballots and the like they had already received.</quote> This is how I've been understanding it as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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