Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 337: The EC Went Down to Georgia

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UshiromiyaEva
11/04/20 10:36:59 PM
#403:


LordoftheMorons posted...
...shouldn't the Trump supporters want them to keep counting in AZ

This is the most baffling part of it.

I think they're literally just falling in line to a cult chant of "STOP THE COUNTS" and have no actual idea what the counts even look like in their own state?

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NFUN
11/04/20 10:39:46 PM
#404:


ExThaNemesis posted...
KP's right.

Mail in balloting is a disaster that needs to be streamlined or done away with next time around. Something like, your ballot MUST be in the day before the election and those votes have to be counted on election night instead of some time four days after the election is over. It's maddening and utterly murders faith in our system.
and knowing that your vote could be invalidated because usps fucked up doesn't murder faith in the system?

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LordoftheMorons
11/04/20 10:46:01 PM
#405:


https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1324195770812215296

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Grimlyn
11/04/20 10:46:42 PM
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LordoftheMorons
11/04/20 10:54:01 PM
#407:


Trump's GA lead is down to 0.6% and Perdue is down to 50.1% (with a bit over 90k votes to go)

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cerna_zelva
11/04/20 10:54:12 PM
#408:


I read this:

Major Fulton County, Georgia update 10:05 PM EST

23,066 newly-counted ballots

Trump: 4,708

Biden: 18,358

79.5% to Biden when he needs to win 68% of outstanding votes outstanding to tie the president.

And couldn't help but think of Board 8
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UshiromiyaEva
11/04/20 10:55:47 PM
#409:


Where the most slapdash rapid GA updates?

I'm tired of NYT's safe wait and see bullshit!

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ExThaNemesis
11/04/20 10:56:12 PM
#410:


The memes were definitely a lot better four years ago that's for sure.

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LordoftheMorons
11/04/20 10:58:00 PM
#411:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Where the most slapdash rapid GA updates?

I'm tired of NYT's safe wait and see bullshit!
I'd assume the outlets are pulling them from here:

https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/GA/105369/web.264614/#/summary

Also looks like things are slightly worse than I just stated due to rounding (which is somewhat significant at this point)

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Jakyl25
11/04/20 11:06:41 PM
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KamikazePotato
11/04/20 11:17:11 PM
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LordoftheMorons
11/04/20 11:18:36 PM
#414:


https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1324203832763711496

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xp1337
11/04/20 11:23:54 PM
#415:


KamikazePotato posted...
https://twitter.com/JustinGrayWSB/status/1324202444121931778
I know when I was still watching coverage on Election Night, MSNBC had a reporter on the ground in Atlanta who spoke with election officials there and said there were - I shit you not - five people processing Fulton's outstanding ballots.

To be fair this was at like 3 AM or something and the reporter noted there were several dozen earlier in the night but. =/

LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1324203832763711496
"We want all voting to stop." ...except where we're losing where ALL VOTES MUST BE COUNTED

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StartTheMachine
11/04/20 11:34:29 PM
#416:


Hey Tucker "poll watchers" are not a thing

If you want to bring lawyers in there to watch the count, you are more than welcome to, but rando Trump supporters that are itching to shoot up the place will be denied.

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KamikazePotato
11/04/20 11:38:37 PM
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Yesmar_
11/04/20 11:38:46 PM
#418:


16,000 vote cut in Georgia!

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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 11:39:33 PM
#419:


I know it varies state to state, but we had Wisconsin and Michigan working through the night yesterday and Georgia and Pennsylvania are working late into the night today.

So Nevada going "nah we'll just do this tomorrow" is uh pretty fucking dumb on their part, right? Did they have an excuse for taking an early night off that I missed?

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StealThisSheen
11/04/20 11:42:43 PM
#420:


I don't believe they stopped counting, they're just not giving an update until tomorrow morning because, again, it's basically just... Clark County. Mini updates for other counties are pointless.

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foolm0r0n
11/04/20 11:44:26 PM
#421:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/FINALLEVEL/status/1324163644645609473
Would they have won any state? Need to know how much I should care

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KamikazePotato
11/04/20 11:46:35 PM
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ChaosTonyV4
11/04/20 11:49:40 PM
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foolm0r0n
11/04/20 11:49:47 PM
#424:


Summary for anyone catching up: nothing has really changed in the last 24 hours, come back on Friday

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Hbthebattle
11/04/20 11:50:23 PM
#425:


foolm0r0n posted...
Summary for anyone catching up: nothing has really changed in the last 24 hours, come back on Friday
A good deal much has changed since this time yesterday
what the fuck are you on

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StealThisSheen
11/04/20 11:51:08 PM
#426:


Does Nevada even matter at this point? Nevada doesn't give a win without Arizona, and Arizona's not being announced until tomorrow.

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kevwaffles
11/04/20 11:52:00 PM
#427:


No he's definitely right. Either they're done or they're not. It's 50/50.

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red13n
11/04/20 11:52:03 PM
#428:


StealThisSheen posted...
Does Nevada even matter at this point? Nevada doesn't give a win without Arizona, and Arizona's not being announced until tomorrow.

it matters in the event arizona matters.

If Pennsylvania goes Biden neither matters.

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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 11:53:04 PM
#429:


Well you could theoretically get Georgia (I don't know who wins, but it'll be close). That is 16 so then any state, even Nevada, pushes you over the top (even if you lose Arizona - which Biden might that one is tightening a lot too).

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Janus5k
11/04/20 11:54:10 PM
#430:


man I just realized if Biden wins Georgia and loses everything else we get 269-269

I don't foresee that happening but if Georgia wanted to both go blue and still be Kemp's hellscape that's how it would go

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UshiromiyaEva
11/04/20 11:55:29 PM
#431:


kevwaffles posted...
No he's definitely right. Either they're done or they're not. It's 50/50.

Yeah, but that's not what he's saying from his perspective, what he's saying "any win from the 2 leading parties means nothing, only libertarians deserve to be blessed in this world" .

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_stingers_
11/04/20 11:57:18 PM
#432:


Janus5k posted...
man I just realized if Biden wins Georgia and loses everything else we get 269-269

I don't foresee that happening but if Georgia wanted to both go blue and still be Kemp's hellscape that's how it would go
I thought I read earlier that a tie was no longer possible because of NE2

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Hbthebattle
11/04/20 11:58:32 PM
#433:


_stingers_ posted...
I thought I read earlier that a tie was no longer possible because of NE2
That was before ME2 was called red

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NFUN
11/04/20 11:58:42 PM
#434:


_stingers_ posted...
I thought I read earlier that a tie was no longer possible because of NE2
you read (or thought) wrong

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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 11:59:33 PM
#435:


So it prevented what we thought was the most likely tie, which was Biden winning Arizona and Nevada but losing Pennsylvania and NE2.

Little did we know Biden winning Georgia but losing Arizona and ME2 was lurking around the corner.

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Hbthebattle
11/05/20 12:00:30 AM
#436:


biden needs to lose nevada too to tie

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Forceful_Dragon
11/05/20 12:01:03 AM
#437:


Yeah the chance of "Georgia and nothing else" is pretty low, thank God

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LordoftheMorons
11/05/20 12:01:04 AM
#438:


_stingers_ posted...
I thought I read earlier that a tie was no longer possible because of NE2
It wasn't with AZ called, but now that we know that AZ shouldn't have been called, Trump winning AZ+NV is one EV more than GA (Biden gets to 269 if GA is all he wins of what remains, in other words).

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Jakyl25
11/05/20 12:01:24 AM
#439:


StartTheMachine posted...
Hey Tucker "poll watchers" are not a thing

If you want to bring lawyers in there to watch the count, you are more than welcome to, but rando Trump supporters that are itching to shoot up the place will be denied.


And those lawyers have in fact been there since the beginning, which makes Trumps crying about lack of access even more pathetic
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pyresword
11/05/20 12:03:49 AM
#440:


There was a somewhat likely path to a tie before that's now been closed thanks to NE-02, in which Biden picks up AZ+NV+WI+MI but loses PA+GA+NC and NE-02

The path being proposed above trades AZ+NV for GA+NE-02 which is a 17 for 17 vote trade.
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xp1337
11/05/20 12:04:18 AM
#441:


LordoftheMorons posted...
It wasn't with AZ called, but now that we know that AZ shouldn't have been called, Trump winning AZ+NV is one EV more than GA (Biden gets to 269 if GA is all he wins of what remains, in other words).
I have been kinda out of tune with most of the election news today by design (and unlike usual I haven't read all the posts I missed so with the topic blazing through posts I legitimately may have missed 1000 posts) but was it uncalled?

I know there was that error with Edison that caused NYT to erroneously have it at like 98% in when it was 86% in but Fox and AP (who called AZ) weren't using Edison for their data I believe so weren't they making their calls with the right numbers? Did something else happen?

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Suprak the Stud
11/05/20 12:06:54 AM
#442:


I'm not seeing a 16k cut anywhere. CNN/NYT have had Biden's lead in GA at around 32k for a couple hours now.

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LordoftheMorons
11/05/20 12:07:22 AM
#443:


xp1337 posted...
I have been kinda out of tune with most of the election news today by design (and unlike usual I haven't read all the posts I missed so with the topic blazing through posts I legitimately may have missed 1000 posts) but was it uncalled?

I know there was that error with Edison that caused NYT to erroneously have it at like 98% in when it was 86% in but Fox and AP (who called AZ) weren't using Edison for their data I believe so weren't they making their calls with the right numbers? Did something else happen?
It hasn't been uncalled, but it was only ever called by Fox and AP and it now seems quite clear that the final result is in doubt (Biden's probably still the favorite, but definitely not like the 99.5% or whatever favorite you'd want to make a call).

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Jakyl25
11/05/20 12:08:32 AM
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LordoftheMorons
11/05/20 12:09:24 AM
#445:


pyresword posted...
There was a somewhat likely path to a tie before that's now been closed thanks to NE-02, in which Biden picks up AZ+NV+WI+MI but loses PA+GA+NC and NE-02

The path being proposed above trades AZ+NV for GA+NE-02 which is a 17 for 17 vote trade.
NE-02's already been called for Biden. AZ+NV+WI+MI only gets you to 269, so you already need to use NE-02 in that scenario (and ME-02's been called for Trump so you can't use that).

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Crossfiyah
11/05/20 12:10:21 AM
#446:


They're more confident that the remaining vote favors Biden by enough than ABC or NYT is.

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LordoftheMorons
11/05/20 12:11:05 AM
#447:


Looks like no more GA updates tonight:
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1324213993855242242

Gotta hope PA gives us an answer!

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StealThisSheen
11/05/20 12:13:32 AM
#448:


red13n posted...
it matters in the event arizona matters.

If Pennsylvania goes Biden neither matters.


Suprak the Stud posted...
Well you could theoretically get Georgia (I don't know who wins, but it'll be close). That is 16 so then any state, even Nevada, pushes you over the top (even if you lose Arizona - which Biden might that one is tightening a lot too).


Right. What I meant was it doesn't matter tonight, since neither Arizona or Georgia were going to be called tonight.

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xp1337
11/05/20 12:14:29 AM
#449:


LordoftheMorons posted...
It hasn't been uncalled, but it was only ever called by Fox and AP and it now seems quite clear that the final result is in doubt (Biden's probably still the favorite, but definitely not like the 99.5% or whatever favorite you'd want to make a call).

Crossfiyah posted...
They're more confident that the remaining vote favors Biden by enough than ABC or NYT is.
Ah, I see. Thanks. Hopefully it holds.

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Suprak the Stud
11/05/20 12:15:56 AM
#450:


KamikazePotato posted...
https://twitter.com/BrendanKeefe/status/1324208012265967617

Yup

I haven't seen this dump anywhere fwiw. Keefe claims that it is part of the 90k outstanding in a later tweet, but the numbers haven't moved in Georgia on any major tracking site yet.

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Corrik7
11/05/20 12:18:09 AM
#451:


It seems apparent Jorgenson hurt Trump specifically for the most part.

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11/05/20 12:19:31 AM
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