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PrivateBiscuit1
11/04/20 8:12:59 PM
#251:


Wait, do people actually attribute strength to Biden here as opposed to just anti-voting Trump?

Literally nobody has been able to express a single good thing about Joe Biden and his campaign. Nobody is excited about the dude. Literally anybody running opposed to Trump now on the Democratic ticket would be getting just as much support. It's not Joe Biden telling people to go out and vote or convincing anyone, it's the media and celebrities all, continuously, saying go out and vote and get Trump out of here.

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Corrik7
11/04/20 8:13:43 PM
#252:


I know one thing. Trump would have won the popular vote against Bernie.

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Grimlyn
11/04/20 8:15:02 PM
#253:


called for Gary Peters

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KamikazePotato
11/04/20 8:17:21 PM
#254:


foolm0r0n posted...
Believing it's a cult is not understanding
I'm not typing out 'swaths of the American populace are':

  1. Single-issue voters that only pay attention to abortion
  2. Subject to a lifelong disinformation campaign by Fox News
  3. Predisposed towards racism
  4. Fetishize economic success even if they themselves don't have it and have no way to obtain it
  5. Are addicted to the feelings of hatred and outrage
  6. Have disdain for minorities and enjoy oppressing them
  7. Fetishize the generic feeling of machismo and feeling 'powerful'
  8. Reject science on a fundamental level
  9. Enjoy the notion of being led by a facist as long as its THEIR facist because a facist has the image of a 'strong' leader
  10. I could go on for a while


Every single time we want to discuss Trump's base.

I've grown up with conservatives and Fox News is the background radiation of my life. I know what they are and a cult is as good a description as any,

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StartTheMachine
11/04/20 8:20:42 PM
#255:


If scientology was a 10 on the cult scale, Trumpism would be a 9

In no world are Trump supporters not a cult. 100% the average Trump voter will think this election was rigged when Joe Biden wins

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KamikazePotato
11/04/20 8:24:03 PM
#256:


Also, Trump's Pennsylvania lead has been collapsing for a while now. Down to 200k when it was around 700k at its peak. All the behind-the-scenes comments I've found have said they very strongly feel Biden wins by at least 50k, so yeah, 290 should be reachable.

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ChaosTonyV4
11/04/20 8:24:16 PM
#257:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Listen Bernies policies are better across the board. You get no argument from me there. Biden is leagues worse than Bernie on literally every position.

He clobbered Bernie in Texas, Michigan, Florida, and states demographically similar to Georgia when it mattered. Biden got a record turn out. None of that was the issue here.


By the time those states voted, Biden was essentially the presumed nominee, its not really a valid comparison.

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LordoftheMorons
11/04/20 8:24:26 PM
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red13n
11/04/20 8:25:12 PM
#259:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Wait, do people actually attribute strength to Biden here as opposed to just anti-voting Trump?

You realize BIden was actually pretty popular, right?

Its all by virtue of being Obama's VP.

But being Obama's VP is not something you get to just throw out because you don't like the way people think.

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StartTheMachine
11/04/20 8:27:20 PM
#260:


If by "actually pretty popular" you mean "not Hillary Clinton" then sure

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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 8:27:24 PM
#261:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
By the time those states voted, Biden was essentially the presumed nominee, its not really a valid comparison.

Texas was Super Tuesday, the similar-ish state to Georgia was SC which was Biden's first strong performance, Michigan was the next group after Super Tuesday and Bernie's last stand. Florida was the next group after that, sure, but it is also the state he was doomed to be worst in of any of the swing states anyway.

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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 8:28:05 PM
#262:


Biden has an extremely high favorability/unfavorability score fwiw. So he's more than just not Hillary here.

Maybe "extremely" is too high of a qualifier, but it is definitely good.

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red13n
11/04/20 8:28:09 PM
#263:


He was about as popular as any other potential nominee.

It wasn't exactly a stellar field.

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Mr Lasastryke
11/04/20 8:28:14 PM
#264:


StartTheMachine posted...
100% the average Trump voter will think this election was rigged when Joe Biden wins

i like how ulti, who has spent the last four years going "WHEN IN DOUBT, BLAME RUSSIA!", immediately went "oh yeah they all stopped counting at 2 AM suuuuuure."

"believing in ridiculous conspiracy theories is dumb, unless they benefit MY team of course!"

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red13n
11/04/20 8:29:24 PM
#265:


I mean, lets keep in mind, Biden 2016 probably wipes the floor with Trump 2016. Some of the shine clearly wore off when we got to 2020 primary season, but he was still relatively popular.

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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 8:31:12 PM
#266:


https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324160599199240192?s=20

Uh oh!

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KamikazePotato
11/04/20 8:32:04 PM
#267:


I think Biden got a big boost in popularity by being the sane option during COVID. He reminded people what it would like to have a sane leader during a crisis and that endeared them to him.

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Jakyl25
11/04/20 8:32:28 PM
#268:


StartTheMachine posted...
If scientology was a 10 on the cult scale, Trumpism would be a 9

In no world are Trump supporters not a cult. 100% the average Trump voter will think this election was rigged when Joe Biden wins


Yeah I dont get foolmos take that they arent

All political followings that care more about the candidate than his stances are cults

Thats not to say that everyone who voted Trump is in the cult, but the cult exists
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/04/20 8:33:28 PM
#269:


red13n posted...
You realize BIden was actually pretty popular, right?

Its all by virtue of being Obama's VP.

But being Obama's VP is not something you get to just throw out because you don't like the way people think.
This is a strange take.

I have had nobody speaking in support of why Joe Biden is good or even decent. Nobody is talking about how great Joe is or what he's going to do to help everyone.

Almost everyone is talking about Trump, and how we need to get rid of Trump, and vote for Biden to get rid of Trump, and Biden is better than Trump.

Nobody is talking about Joe Biden. If Biden were actually popular, people could at least talk about the guy. But he's literally the not-Trump guy.

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KamikazePotato
11/04/20 8:34:36 PM
#270:


Suprak the Stud posted...
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324160599199240192?s=20

Uh oh!
There's like 3 tweets in that chain explaining why the result doesn't matter much

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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 8:36:06 PM
#271:


KamikazePotato posted...
There's like 3 tweets in that chain explaining why the result doesn't matter much

I mean this was a Biden plus 20 or so county. Maricopa is a lot closer.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324163217099292673

It doesn't sound like he thinks it is totally nothing.

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KamikazePotato
11/04/20 8:37:17 PM
#272:


'This tweet is unavailable'

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Mr Lasastryke
11/04/20 8:37:32 PM
#273:


https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324163685963747331

oh

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Forceful_Dragon
11/04/20 8:37:44 PM
#274:


KamikazePotato posted...
'This tweet is unavailable'


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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 8:38:29 PM
#276:


https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324163685963747331

Oh ok phew. I rescind my previous "uh oh" for now!

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RaidenGarai
11/04/20 8:38:29 PM
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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 8:39:23 PM
#279:


Ok now we need a couple more people to post that tweet and I think we get a free sub sandwich.

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KamikazePotato
11/04/20 8:39:38 PM
#280:


I do think Arizona tightens though. Just not nearly enough for Biden to lose.

Pennsylvania is looking completely lost to Trump at this point, so even if Georgia and North Carolina don't come through, we're good.

EDIT: By 'lost to Trump' I mean he's losing it. The English language is vague and mysterious!

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red sox 777
11/04/20 8:41:24 PM
#282:


RaidenGarai posted...
Update

https://twitter.com/nate_cohn/status/1324163685963747331?s=21

The previous tweet only talked about 5,511 ballots, so if you want to just assume the 157 extra election day ballots went for Trump 2-1 or something, it's still a very good sign for him.

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LordoftheMorons
11/04/20 8:41:41 PM
#283:


Looks like the GA needle's gone on the NYT tracker

Trump's lead is down to 0.8%, though

(And Purdue is down to 50.2%, so we're still on track for a recount if Biden ends up winning GA or even making it within ~0.4%)

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StealThisSheen
11/04/20 8:41:43 PM
#284:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Ok now we need a couple more people to post that tweet and I think we get a free sub sandwich.

Hold on, let me photoshop Jeb on to it first.

I feel like I've really hit my stride

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Jakyl25
11/04/20 8:42:29 PM
#285:


UltimaterializerX posted...

Has one single liberal claimed the 2016 result was legit?


...is there anyone in this topic who thinks it wasnt?
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Hbthebattle
11/04/20 8:43:03 PM
#286:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Has one single liberal claimed the 2016 result was legit?
No one has claimed that Trump didn't win 2016's election legit. When people call foul is on Russia interfering with information and working with the Trump campaign, not literally cheating votes.

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NFUN
11/04/20 8:44:22 PM
#287:


oh shit y'all you see this?

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324163685963747331

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MoogleKupo141
11/04/20 8:44:37 PM
#288:


UltimaterializerX posted...

Has one single liberal claimed the 2016 result was legit?


what are you talking about

no one thinks Clinton lost due to cheating

liberals going the electoral college sucks afterward isnt the same thing
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LordoftheMorons
11/04/20 8:44:45 PM
#289:


Hbthebattle posted...
No one has claimed that Trump didn't win 2016's election legit. When people call foul is on Russia interfering with information and working with the Trump campaign, not literally cheating votes.
Which, by the way, they did (or at least were actively helped the Trump campaign, which the Trump was aware of in real time and welcomed if you want to split hairs on your definition of "collusion")

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ChaosTonyV4
11/04/20 8:45:44 PM
#290:


UltimaterializerX posted...
https://twitter.com/kathyboockvar/status/839095609730744320?s=21

This is Pennsylvanias secretary of state.

I totally trust that state to have an impartial vote count, lmao

Ok so you admit Georgia, Florida, and Texas were all stolen from Joe by the Republican leadership.

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Grimlyn
11/04/20 8:46:14 PM
#291:


hold off on that nate cohn tweet sup, it was a mistake

https://twitter.com/nate_cohn/status/1324163685963747331

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LordoftheMorons
11/04/20 8:46:30 PM
#292:


Ughhhhhhh fuck this kid

https://twitter.com/Jezebel/status/1324158251202727936

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Grimlyn
11/04/20 8:47:42 PM
#293:


for fuck's sake

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KamikazePotato
11/04/20 8:47:46 PM
#294:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Looks like the GA needle's gone on the NYT tracker

Trump's lead is down to 0.8%, though

(And Purdue is down to 50.2%, so we're still on track for a recount if Biden ends up winning GA or even making it within ~0.4%)

It's upsetting that Georgia and North Carolina are probably slightly-comfortable Biden wins if mail-in voter suppression wasn't so rampant

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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 8:48:29 PM
#295:


Grimlyn posted...
hold off on that nate cohn tweet sup, it was a mistake

https://twitter.com/nate_cohn/status/1324163685963747331

Phew ok thanks for the heads up. I thought the first four including mine could've been fakes.

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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 8:49:31 PM
#296:


https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324164360017686528?s=20

So not great but not terrible either!

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/04/20 8:50:13 PM
#297:


Wait a minute guys, I'm starting to come around on this election being rigged...


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LordoftheMorons
11/04/20 8:51:44 PM
#298:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Looks like the GA needle's gone on the NYT tracker

Trump's lead is down to 0.8%, though

(And Purdue is down to 50.2%, so we're still on track for a recount if Biden ends up winning GA or even making it within ~0.4%)
*runoff, not recount I mean

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TheRock1525
11/04/20 8:52:50 PM
#299:


Ben Garrison has switched sides!



(Yes I know it's an edit.)

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Crossfiyah
11/04/20 8:52:52 PM
#300:


Georgia seems completely within reach at this point. What a plot twist.

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KamikazePotato
11/04/20 8:54:27 PM
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