Current Events > Samsung: lol iphones dont come with a charger and earphones. buy us

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Also Samsung: See, I never just did things just to do them. Come on, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden make fun of Apple for not including a charger and earphones in an ad like it's something to do? Come on. I got a little more sense then that.

Yeah, I remember making fun of apple. Also we're not including chargers and earphones with our next phone.
https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s30-charger-earphones-1172070/

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everybody doesn't have several pairs of earbuds and chargers at this point in smart phone history?

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As an iPhone user, at least Samsung is using USB-C like every other new phone. Unlike Apple who is giving us a lightning to usb-c power cable when hardly ANYONE has a USB-C charger. I only have on because my iPhone 11 came with it.

coolboy11 posted...

everybody doesn't have several pairs of earbuds and chargers at this point in smart phone history?

Apple: "You already have our chargers, so we're not packing them."
"WHAAAAAAAAT! APPLE YOURE TRASH!"
"I dont! I dont!"
"FUCK APPLE"

Samsung: "You already have our chargers, so we're not packing them."
"WHHHAAAAAAT a great idea."
"Yeah I have a ton."
"FUCK APPLE."

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Yeah, the difference is that Samsung isn't changing the charging cord at the same time as not providing a new one.

The only iPhones that came with a compatible charging cable were the pro models from last year, most of whom aren't replacing their phones after a single year. Everyone who has had their iPhone for 2 or more years, and are thus more likely to be thinking about an upgrade (or hell, even the non-pro versions of last year's iPhone), will now need to go purchase a charger separately and waste even more resources on the extra packaging from a second box.

Don't get me wrong, I still think it's stupid. But at least Samsung is doing this stupid thing correctly.

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Aristoph posted...

Yeah, the difference is that Samsung isn't changing the charging cord at the same time as not providing a new one.

i thought they're only going from USB A to USB C. lightning side is still lightning.

will USB A to lightning cords not work?

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Truly we can say it together:

BOTH SIDES!!

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Not including headphones or a charger for a $1000 phone is ridiculous regardless of company.
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Mezcla posted...

Apple: "You already have our chargers, so we're not packing them."
"WHAAAAAAAAT! APPLE YOURE TRASH!"
"I dont! I dont!"
"FUCK APPLE"

Samsung: "You already have our chargers, so we're not packing them."
"WHHHAAAAAAT a great idea."
"Yeah I have a ton."
"FUCK APPLE."

lol people just have a hard on hate for Apple because they have the juice right now, I love my cheap SE.

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Smashingpmkns posted...

Not including headphones or a charger for a $1000 phone is ridiculous regardless of company.

yeah I can see this because not like is costing them any substantial money but big bidness is going to be big bidness.

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Samsung is straight garbage. Phones basically made to be rooted and unusable otherwise.

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Really though my headphones and charger are usually dead or on their last legs when I get a new phone. I guess some people upgrade yearly, though.

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Do you guys not have earphones?

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Cell phones are a commodity business. I'll never understand the fanboying for these multinational corporations.

A cell phone is a tool, not a "lifestyle choice" people seem to make it out to be.

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pogo_rabid posted...

Cell phones are a commodity business. I'll never understand the fanboying for these multinational corporations.

A cell phone is a tool, not a "lifestyle choice" people seem to make it out to be.

It's just that people don't like being told they're just paying for brand hype imo. So they go to great lengths to justify why their purchase was actually intelligent or well considered.

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pogo_rabid posted...

Cell phones are a commodity business. I'll never understand the fanboying for these multinational corporations.

A cell phone is a tool, not a "lifestyle choice" people seem to make it out to be.

I mean, Apple kind of is. If your friends and family all have Apple products, to live with them without one means you are left out on a lot of stuff, or at least makes it a lot more annoying.

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Mezcla posted...

i thought they're only going from USB A to USB C. lightning side is still lightning.

will USB A to lightning cords not work?

Absolutely not. USB A and USB C are completely different connectors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMUzaLV4X0#t=8m30s
8:30 in that video explains it.

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pogo_rabid posted...

Cell phones are a commodity business. I'll never understand the fanboying for these multinational corporations.

A cell phone is a tool, not a "lifestyle choice" people seem to make it out to be.

Yep. I went from Apple to Google Pixel to Oneplus. By the way Oneplus seems to be going this year, I'm probably jumping ship in the next year or so too lol

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Everything else aside, Apple has just been testing how much it can get away with. And customers have told them. "No charger? Crap battery life? Sign me up!"

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Aristoph posted...

Absolutely not. USB A and USB C are completely different connectors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMUzaLV4X0#t=8m30s
8:30 in that video explains it.

yes

i know

im saying the new iphones are still lightning right? that part hasn't changed.

so unless the power requirement is now like, 25 watts, in which you need usb c power deliviery or whatever its called, why couldn't you use your old charger cable with an older power block?

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Imagine buying flagship phones.

Gonna spend 2000 dollars for a gaming computer that can run Minecraft and Brave Exvius. Its got a word processor! And you gotta make sure those food selfies you post once and then forget about for years until you finally start deleting everything are HQ! Cameras not worth anything if you cant make out the condensation droplets on your Burger King soda cup! Wooopp!

>___>

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Mezcla posted...

yes

i know

im saying the new iphones are still lightning right? that part hasn't changed.

so unless the power requirement is now like, 25 watts, in which you need usb c power deliviery or whatever its called, why couldn't you use your old charger cable with an older power block?

I dont l know what the other guy was saying but lightning is still lightning and your existing usb-a to lightning cables will still charge an iphone 12

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Rika_Furude posted...

I dont l know what the other guy was saying but lightning is still lightning and your existing usb-a to lightning cables will still charge an iphone 12

yeah exactly

so i dont know why everyone is crying.

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I used to be a huge Samsung fanboy, but my last few experiences with them haven't been great

planning on going with LG for my next phone

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Mezcla posted...

yeah exactly

so i dont know why everyone is crying.

The point is that Apple is claiming this move is for the environment. But they give you 2 options. You can use your old cable/charger, in which case they're including a completely wasteful and useless cable in the box for no reason (especially considering practically nothing currently has use for a USB-C connector outside of charging bricks). Or you can buy a new charger, which is going come in another wasteful excessively packaged box at the usual significantly marked-up price.

It's not actually helpful to anybody the way they have it set up. If you've got the iPhone 11 pro with the charging brick, then you already also already have the USB-C cable, so the one in the box is a waste. If you don't have the USB-C charging brick, then the cable in the box is even more useless and is a waste. It's moronic and literally only serves as enticement to buy yet another Apple accessory that used to come packaged with the phone but has been removed so that they can charge for it instead.

EDIT: Yeah, I misunderstood the initial question. That's my bad. It's a stupid move because they claim it to be for environmental reasons, but their implementation is basically the exact opposite of environmental. But yes, you can still use and charge your new phone with the old cables. Albeit not as quickly, which is one of the selling points of upgrading in the first place.

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Meh they're still way ahead of Apple when it comes to quality and features. Plus their updates don't break older phones like Apple does with theirs.

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I mean, you can't blame Samsung for doing it. It saves them a little more on costs, & Apple has proven they can get away with it.

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hyperpowder posted...

Plus their updates don't break older phones

they dont update older phones. you'll be lucky if your android device is supported past year 2. apple supports some phones for 5 years

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Samsung will now issue 3 years of OS updates starting with the 2019 flagships. Previously, you got 2 years of OS updates and several more years of security patches (which often came bundled with new features).

Although Apple will update the OS for several more additional years, they often fail to port over things like new camera features to older devices. The 11 series debuted night mode but the XS generation never got that. The new 12 series gains night mode for all cameras (finally) and I guarantee you that the 11 series will never receive this. Google and Samsung are better at that as they debut new camera features on new devices while trickling them down to older devices with software updates.

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coolboy11 posted...

everybody doesn't have several pairs of earbuds and chargers at this point in smart phone history?

No, because everyone loses the chargers somehow (protip, stay off your phone and don't leave battery draining shit on and you won't need to move the charger to take it places) and the shitty earbuds (an oxymoron, all earbuds suck) they include break on people because they mistreat them.

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Apple only includes the Lightning-to-USB C cord in the box so unless you're upgrading from an 11 series device, you're going to be buying a new cable and brick anyway to take advantage of the new charging speeds. It's a monumentally stupid thing of them to do.

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I was done with Samsung when they removed the read phone joke. I don't want to have to charge all these different things in for me phone. I just want my phone and head phones that I can plug anywhere. The next time I change my phone it will not be SAmsung or Apple . I need a head phone jack. So fuck both of them.

Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

Apple only includes the Lightning-to-USB C cord in the box so unless you're upgrading from an 11 series device, you're going to be buying a new cable and brick anyway to take advantage of the new charging speeds. It's a monumentally stupid thing of them to do.

And it is not stupid because people will still buy it. They can sell people phone with crap rubbed on it as an upgrade and people will still buy it.

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cjsdowg posted...

I need a head phone jack.

*uses Bluetooth headphones like a sensible person*

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cjsdowg posted...

I need a head phone jack

im sure theres someone out there who needs a built in floppy disk reader for their phone as well. we shouldnt be holding back progress for people like you

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Rika_Furude posted...

m sure theres someone out there who needs a built in floppy disk reader for their phone as well. we shouldnt be holding back progress for people like you

Wired hard phones are no where close to the equivalent of the floppy drive.

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cjsdowg posted...

Wired hard phones are no where close to the equivalent of the floppy drive.

wireless headphones are the natural successor to wired headphones. again, im sure theres somebody out there who needs to use floppy disks on their phone but theres no way a phone should have a floppy disk reader, because that would mean its a worse phone for everyone else who doesnt need such antique tech with newer and better alternatives

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Rika_Furude posted...

wireless headphones are the natural successor to wired headphones. again, im sure theres somebody out there who needs to use floppy disks on their phone but theres no way a phone should have a floppy disk reader

Floppy disk could whole less information. Wired head phones can give you the same audio quality and in some cases better. Blue Tooth is a one more thing you need to charge up and if it not charged you are fucked. A wired head phone no charging same sound. So how are hey close to being the same. Bluetooth is literally more work for the same thing.

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its not hard to top off your headphones battery every night when you can use anything from wireless chargers, laptop chargers, phone chargers etc to charge them. you're complaining about a non-issue and how that means we need to keep old tech in our phones to keep you happy

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It's always been like this.


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Rika_Furude posted...

its not hard to top off your headphones battery every night when you can use anything from wireless chargers, laptop chargers, phone chargers etc to charge them. you're complaining about a non-issue and how that means we need to keep old tech in our phones to keep you happy

To keep me happy?? No a lot of people agree with me, who haven't fell for Apple and Samsung marketing. Hell Samsung was saying the same thing before they learned that can make a few more bucks per phone taking it out. And I am not demanding that Samsung go back, I literally said I would get a phone that has it.

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cjsdowg posted...

No a lot of people agree with me

a lot of people said they needed floppy drives in their laptops while those were still being phased out. that doesnt mean we need floppy drives in our laptops when theres better alternatives

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Rika_Furude posted...

a lot of people said they needed floppy drives in their laptops while those were still being phased out. that doesnt mean we need floppy drives in our laptops when theres better alternatives

Once more the floppy drive comprehension fall flat on every level. I mean every single one.

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cjsdowg posted...

Once more the floppy drive comprehension fall flat on ever level. I mean ever single one.

ok buddy junior. that just means you dont understand technology

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Rika_Furude posted...

ok buddy junior. that just means you dont understand technology

That fact that you can't come up with a better analogy, just shows that you have fallen for the hype and are unable to defend your point. I literally pointed out the reasons your analogy doesn't work. And pointed out that Samsung themselves talked about this same issues before they switched to make more money. You keep buying your over priced phones and falling for everything they market to you.

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cjsdowg posted...
I literally pointed out the reasons your analogy doesn't work.

no you didnt

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The only way that shitty floppy analogy would work is if wireless headphones were to provide 20X the audio quality like floppy to CD-ROM did with storage capacity.
Right now it's not a matter of clear superior technology, but personal convenience. Do you find it more convenient to not have to mess with a wire or to not charge yet another device?

TheSavageDragon posted...

personal convenience

20x the convenience

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wow i guess i'm buying an iphone now

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Aristoph posted...

The point is that Apple is claiming this move is for the environment. But they give you 2 options. You can use your old cable/charger, in which case they're including a completely wasteful and useless cable in the box for no reason (especially considering practically nothing currently has use for a USB-C connector outside of charging bricks). Or you can buy a new charger, which is going come in another wasteful excessively packaged box at the usual significantly marked-up price.

It's not actually helpful to anybody the way they have it set up. If you've got the iPhone 11 pro with the charging brick, then you already also already have the USB-C cable, so the one in the box is a waste. If you don't have the USB-C charging brick, then the cable in the box is even more useless and is a waste. It's moronic and literally only serves as enticement to buy yet another Apple accessory that used to come packaged with the phone but has been removed so that they can charge for it instead.

EDIT: Yeah, I misunderstood the initial question. That's my bad. It's a stupid move because they claim it to be for environmental reasons, but their implementation is basically the exact opposite of environmental. But yes, you can still use and charge your new phone with the old cables. Albeit not as quickly, which is one of the selling points of upgrading in the first place.

USB-C is not just power bricks. Where have you been? PCs and Macs both use them for data nowadays.

The cable is included for data if anything. Google used to include both an A-C cable along with a C-C cable for data back with the Pixel 1.

Samsung also changed their cables with the S20 from A-C to C-C. So they would be in the same situation if they removed the brick for the S30.

Nonetheless, removing the charger brick is a completely dick move on everybody's part. Fucking cheap fucks.

hyperpowder posted...

Meh they're still way ahead of Apple when it comes to quality and features. Plus their updates don't break older phones like Apple does with theirs.

Lol, this happens all the time with both Samsung and especially Google. In the past 3 months, Google has broken Android Chrome incognito twice. There was a new update and it was freezing when closing out on some sites in incognito. It took 3 months to fix and the fix ended up causing a years old issue to return instead with several sites timing out in incognito. A fucking mess.

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