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FF_Redux
10/17/20 7:06:32 PM
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https://www.svd.se/kriminella-meddelade-utegangsforbud-i-tensta/i/senaste

Swdish article sorry.

But basically they threatned with violence if the 6pm curfew was not followed in that ghetto in August. No info if they have done this more times.

Also previously this year in another city criminal gangs set up road checks and to check ppls IDs for whoever entered the appartment buildings on another ghetto area.

this is fucking insane

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Hexenherz
10/17/20 7:07:42 PM
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Is this in reaction to covid or something else??

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FF_Redux
10/17/20 7:07:54 PM
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And the police seem to do nothing. Civilians are afrraid to witness since they have no anonymity here and no protection.

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FF_Redux
10/17/20 7:08:28 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Is this in reaction to covid or something else??

No, its so they can so more criminal shit

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shockthemonkey
10/17/20 7:09:44 PM
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FF_Redux posted...
Civilians are afrraid to witness since they have no anonymity here and no protection.
What?!

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sauceje
10/17/20 7:10:28 PM
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this has happened in Brazil also

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Middle hope
10/17/20 7:10:44 PM
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@BalanceLost


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FF_Redux
10/17/20 7:11:26 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
What?!

Yup, defense attorneys say if we have anonymous witnesses then it would ruin the whole justice system. Idiots.

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FF_Redux
10/17/20 7:17:02 PM
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The gang shit here in Sweden is getting out od control. Like just a few monrhs ago a 13 year old girl was killed cuz of a missfired drive-by.

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FF_Redux
10/17/20 7:33:35 PM
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sauceje
10/17/20 7:37:16 PM
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FF_Redux posted...
The gang shit here in Sweden is getting out od control. Like just a few monrhs ago a 13 year old girl was killed cuz of a missfired drive-by.
Goddamn that is also similar to Brazil. Are you guys okay over there

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Alucard188
10/17/20 7:38:03 PM
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SubtletyRefuge posted...
I believe this happened in Mexico too

Either Brazil or Venezuela. I don't remember hearing about mexico.

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FF_Redux
10/18/20 2:25:00 AM
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sauceje posted...
Goddamn that is also similar to Brazil. Are you guys okay over there

Overall most ppl are safe but this is worrysome developement.

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BalanceLost
10/18/20 7:50:01 AM
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Whenever I get tagged in a story about Sweden I post a long fact based reply but it is mostly ignored so I dont feel like doing that anymore. Gonna do it one more time though.

My personal opinion is that the Police, SPO (Security Police) and the Military should do a joint op and exterminate the known rodents but that would require massive law changes first.

FF_Redux posted...
And the police seem to do nothing. Civilians are afrraid to witness since they have no anonymity here and no protection.
I wish my countrymen on this board would be better at differentiating between opinions and facts.

The Police are doing plenty. Our prisons got more inmates than ever before in modern times (many are gang members) and they serve longer sentences than before. This is because of different law changes over the past couple years. We need to build more prisons as a result.

Criminals are also having money and property impounded these days in a way not done before. Customs are also seizing more drugs and weapons at the border due to new routines.

A major reason why the criminal gangs in less well-off-neighbourhoods are getting more aggressive now is because the police are cracking down harder.

You can report crimes anonymously in Sweden. But you cannot testify anonymously in court. This is not due to defense attorney lobbying, it is since we have certain rights. You have a right to know what you are accused of and by who during a criminal trial in a court.

The Council of Law, a politically neutral Authority of former and present High Court Justices, which reviews proposed laws from Riksdagen in a Constitutional light are critical of anymous witnesses since it can be easily abused to lock away innocents since it prevents an accused from forming a fair defense. If implemented it is difficult to just limit it to trials against gang members.

And there are great witness protection programmes but they require you to move and change your name, which seems to be normal procedure in other Western countries.

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Flauros
10/18/20 8:01:52 AM
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BalanceLost posted...
Whenever I get tagged in a story about Sweden I post a long fact based reply but it is mostly ignored so I dont feel like doing that anymore. Gonna do it one more time though.
Dont give up :( Youre RI's #1 Sweden Rep and our guy for the local news and flavor.

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ROBANN_88
10/18/20 8:31:38 AM
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did anything ever happen with the gangs who set up armed illegal roadblocks a few weeks ago?

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BalanceLost
10/18/20 1:06:17 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
did anything ever happen with the gangs who set up armed illegal roadblocks a few weeks ago?
20 something gang members got arrested because of it. What happens next I havent seen anything about yet.

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RoxyReturns
10/18/20 1:07:20 PM
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sauceje posted...
Goddamn that is also similar to Brazil. Are you guys okay over there

this happens everyday in the US
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Patty_Fleur
10/18/20 1:07:42 PM
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I wasn't aware Sweden had gang violence like that.

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Fazeo13
10/18/20 1:23:05 PM
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I quite liked the sharia areas in uk. So much better than dealing with drunk annoying locals. People are just going to get used to respecting new cultures as it is the way forward.
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BobLoblaw_
10/18/20 1:25:13 PM
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Theyre doing it because the government wont wont?

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Monolith1676
10/18/20 1:28:19 PM
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BalanceLost posted...
Whenever I get tagged in a story about Sweden I post a long fact based reply but it is mostly ignored so I dont feel like doing that anymore. Gonna do it one more time though.

My personal opinion is that the Police, SPO (Security Police) and the Military should do a joint op and exterminate the known rodents but that would require massive law changes first.

I wish my countrymen on this board would be better at differentiating between opinions and facts.

The Police are doing plenty. Our prisons got more inmates than ever before in modern times (many are gang members) and they serve longer sentences than before. This is because of different law changes over the past couple years. We need to build more prisons as a result.

Criminals are also having money and property impounded these days in a way not done before. Customs are also seizing more drugs and weapons at the border due to new routines.

A major reason why the criminal gangs in less well-off-neighbourhoods are getting more aggressive now is because the police are cracking down harder.

You can report crimes anonymously in Sweden. But you cannot testify anonymously in court. This is not due to defense attorney lobbying, it is since we have certain rights. You have a right to know what you are accused of and by who during a criminal trial in a court.

The Council of Law, a politically neutral Authority of former and present High Court Justices, which reviews proposed laws from Riksdagen in a Constitutional light are critical of anymous witnesses since it can be easily abused to lock away innocents since it prevents an accused from forming a fair defense. If implemented it is difficult to just limit it to trials against gang members.

And there are great witness protection programmes but they require you to move and change your name, which seems to be normal procedure in other Western countries.

I think it is funny you say build more prisons. Here in California we are closing prisons and letting violent criminals back out on the street.

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RedWhiteBlue
10/18/20 1:32:28 PM
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BalanceLost posted...
I've always enjoyed when you posted what's up with Sweden. Most people may not reply, but many certainly do see what you write.
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Phynaster
10/18/20 1:34:57 PM
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Lol exterminate the rodents not fashy at all

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FF_Redux
10/18/20 5:42:15 PM
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BalanceLost posted...
I wish my countrymen on this board would be better at differentiating between opinions and facts.

I know I was harsh and extreme with my comments, I do understand everything you say, but it still feels messed up. There should be some kind of better witness protection, I have no idea what that could be but whatever is now is not working. I would not dare to witness gang violence if it happened, it is scaring the people how things are now. And I can be honest and say this topic is an emotional reaction the shit that is going on.

And I was gonna tag you but forgot, because I really apprcieate how well you can describe Swedish stuff, I'm great at English I think but you are much better at describing more "adult" stuff in English than I am, also you seem more invested. I love discussing things without being stone hard set on things so don't think I'm one of "those people".

It's so complicated and I don't really want to go to any extreme but my instant emotions wants to.

Overall it's sad and frustrating that things are going the wrong way honestly, but I also know it's not that easy to fix.
@BalanceLost

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gamer167
10/18/20 5:48:54 PM
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I havent looked too deep into it, maybe an article or two, but it seems like the majority of these gang members and those committing violence are immigrants. Is this true?

Its always a shame when large groups of people migrate somewhere for a better life and the riff raff slide in amongst them.
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FF_Redux
10/18/20 5:53:11 PM
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gamer167 posted...
I havent looked too deep into it, maybe an article or two, but it seems like the majority of these gang members and those committing violence are immigrants. Is this true?

Its always a shame when large groups of people migrate somewhere for a better life and the riff raff slide in amongst them.


Yes. But alot of them are not 1st generation tho iirc

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kingdrake2
10/18/20 6:03:48 PM
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RoxyReturns posted...
this happens everyday in the US


this is true. but they did it without the curfew. just unfortunate circumstances if caught in the attacks.
wish they would catch/prosecute the criminal fuckers.
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FF_Redux
10/18/20 6:09:25 PM
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It's kinda funny tho. A lot of this violence is because of cannabis. There is a huge demand of it, and the only supply is through criminals. If they legalized it, it would lessen a lot of this shit, but the politicians and especially the police won't even discuss this. (just to note this is not prob 100% facts, but it's prob very close to it)

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ROBANN_88
10/18/20 6:15:10 PM
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BalanceLost posted...
The Police are doing plenty.

sure, the police are doing plenty, but how much does that help when the court keeps handing out like 3 month community service for assaults and the like?
Doesn't help that Vnsterpartiet went in the last few elections on the platform of reintroducing Halftime prison release

i really hope the recent talk about organised clan criminality gets something going soon, but knowing our politicians, i doubt it

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kingdrake2
10/18/20 6:15:47 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
when the court keeps handing out like 3 month community service


weak sentences are slap on the wrist. they can keep doing what they're doing no problem.
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Monolith1676
10/18/20 7:40:01 PM
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FF_Redux posted...
It's kinda funny tho. A lot of this violence is because of cannabis. There is a huge demand of it, and the only supply is through criminals. If they legalized it, it would lessen a lot of this shit, but the politicians and especially the police won't even discuss this. (just to note this is not prob 100% facts, but it's prob very close to it)

Haha, it would only lessen it by maybe 5%. Here in California people still rob and murder over it even though it is legal.

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FF_Redux
10/18/20 7:42:49 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
Haha, it would only lessen it by maybe 5%. Here in California people still rob and murder over it even though it is legal.

I mean, I would rather pay more for legal weed, especially if they can tag the taxes from sales to help people in abuse than supporting criminals. But right now there is no option. And I know loads of people would also do that.

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Monolith1676
10/18/20 7:55:16 PM
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FF_Redux posted...
I mean, I would rather pay more for legal weed, especially if they can tag the taxes from sales to help people in abuse than supporting criminals. But right now there is no option. And I know loads of people would also do that.

Of course there are those who would pay more but there are even more that don't want to pay more and will go through illicit channels to get it therefore you would only see a miniscule drop.

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Vicious_Dios
10/18/20 8:12:57 PM
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Oh, Sweden... What happened to you?

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shockthemonkey
10/19/20 1:47:52 PM
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BalanceLost posted...
Whenever I get tagged in a story about Sweden I post a long fact based reply but it is mostly ignored so I dont feel like doing that anymore. Gonna do it one more time though.

My personal opinion is that the Police, SPO (Security Police) and the Military should do a joint op and exterminate the known rodents but that would require massive law changes first.

I wish my countrymen on this board would be better at differentiating between opinions and facts.

The Police are doing plenty. Our prisons got more inmates than ever before in modern times (many are gang members) and they serve longer sentences than before. This is because of different law changes over the past couple years. We need to build more prisons as a result.

Criminals are also having money and property impounded these days in a way not done before. Customs are also seizing more drugs and weapons at the border due to new routines.

A major reason why the criminal gangs in less well-off-neighbourhoods are getting more aggressive now is because the police are cracking down harder.

You can report crimes anonymously in Sweden. But you cannot testify anonymously in court. This is not due to defense attorney lobbying, it is since we have certain rights. You have a right to know what you are accused of and by who during a criminal trial in a court.

The Council of Law, a politically neutral Authority of former and present High Court Justices, which reviews proposed laws from Riksdagen in a Constitutional light are critical of anymous witnesses since it can be easily abused to lock away innocents since it prevents an accused from forming a fair defense. If implemented it is difficult to just limit it to trials against gang members.

And there are great witness protection programmes but they require you to move and change your name, which seems to be normal procedure in other Western countries.
Thanks for clearing this up

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