Poll of the Day > Why won't Democrats agree to give us a Corona stimulus package?

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BlackScythe0
10/18/20 1:35:50 AM
#51:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Is there a reason to believe covid relief isn't there to relieve the burden of covid?

I want to know exactly what the Dems have a problem with.

That isn't a challenge. There is surely news articles explaining why politicians went the way they did.
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argonautweakend
10/18/20 1:41:30 AM
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Here is a detailed explanation from Nancy Pelosi(citing relevant experts) as to why she didn't like the proposed stimulus bill

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/101320
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Zareth
10/18/20 3:36:55 AM
#53:


OhhhJa posted...
This is why a 3 party system would be infinitely better. That way it wouldn't always be sides two sides squabbling back and forth. A 3rd party would be able to capitalize on 2 parties embroiled in us vs them constantly so there wouldn't be incentive to just political football back and forth like they do
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zebatov
10/18/20 3:41:23 AM
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Canada has a number of parties, but one seems to be in power more often than the others. This is by their design.

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Blightzkrieg
10/18/20 3:55:41 PM
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zebatov posted...
Canada has a number of parties, but one seems to be in power more often than the others. This is by their design.
If your party's entire philosophy is "we believe whatever most Canadians believe" no shit they're gonna be in power the most. If Canada ever starts skewing left or right the Liberals will follow, as they did recently with marijuana. There's nothing wrong with this.

If you can't win a democratic election you should adjust to better represent the populace, rather than seeking to become less democratic. If Conservatives really want to become the major political party they need to better reflect Canadian viewpoints.

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JixHedgehog
10/18/20 8:00:40 PM
#56:


Nancy on CNN (yeah, CNN) making excuses about being a slack b****

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BIwd-JLGqtM

My hats off to Mr. Blitzer for doing some damn fine interviewing, keep this trend going CNN

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Metalsonic66
10/18/20 8:10:00 PM
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She looks like the Wicked Witch of the West

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Arcturusisnow
10/18/20 8:53:09 PM
#58:


Wanded posted...
there is a 1.8 trillion offer from the trump side, all democrats have to do is say ok
If the Republicans refused to even hear of an offer this summer then why should Democrats treat them better?
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Arcturusisnow
10/18/20 8:56:12 PM
#59:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Is there a reason to believe covid relief isn't there to relieve the burden of covid?

I want to know exactly what the Dems have a problem with.
Given the current Rethuglican party? Yeah, I would think anyone with a brain would think there is.
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Decoy77
10/18/20 9:31:20 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
They don't want the economy to recover before they lose the election.
They want to pad the stimulus with voting regulations that will allow them to cheat in the election.

This is all you need to know.

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Kyuubi4269
10/18/20 9:43:48 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
Here is a detailed explanation from Nancy Pelosi(citing relevant experts) as to why she didn't like the proposed stimulus bill

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/101320

So like I said, "No, more!"

They'll fuck over everyone if their demographic doesn't get priority and he doesn't pay for mail in fraud.
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DDirtyDastard
10/18/20 11:12:01 PM
#62:


Because political positioning is more important to them than the well-being of American citizens.
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teddy241
10/19/20 1:11:09 AM
#63:


DDirtyDastard posted...
Because political positioning is more important to them than the well-being of American citizens.

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EvilMegas
10/19/20 12:50:07 PM
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The best part about this topic is that kyuubi isn't even American and he's super butthurt about all of this for no reason.

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Joe_Biden
10/19/20 1:06:13 PM
#65:


EvilMegas posted...
The best part about this topic is that kyuubi isn't even American and he's super butthurt about all of this for no reason.
yeah his obsession with this is strange.

just like that xjayce guy or whatever. dude does not live in america and has the biggest boner for republicans here

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Wanded
10/19/20 2:04:41 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
So like I said, "No, more!"

They'll fuck over everyone if their demographic doesn't get priority and he doesn't pay for mail in fraud.
and free housing for homeless people, from what i read there lol

EvilMegas posted...
The best part about this topic is that kyuubi isn't even American and he's super butthurt about all of this for no reason.

Joe_Biden posted...
yeah his obsession with this is strange.
American politics effect global politics
it's also strange i never see disdain for foreign progressives butting into out politics

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Joe_Biden
10/19/20 9:55:32 PM
#68:


Wanded posted...
American politics effect global politics
i can assure you that a covid relief bill for the united states does not affect canada or the united kingdom

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darkknight109
10/20/20 1:59:06 AM
#69:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
They'll fuck over everyone if their demographic doesn't get priority and he doesn't pay for mail in fraud.

Doesn't speak very highly of Trump's leadership capabilities if mail-in voting has been secure and free of fraud for over 150 years and yet it's only under his administration that they are now apparently a major fraud concern.

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Joe_Biden
10/20/20 2:46:21 AM
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it's republicans who get caught even trying to perform mail fraud, anyways.


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Wanded
10/20/20 5:45:12 PM
#71:


darkknight109 posted...
if mail-in voting has been secure and free of fraud for over 150 year
It was always a problem but no one cared because it consisted a small percentage of the votes, which will not be the case this year

"In addition, there have been problems with the Postal Service not postmarking ballots, making it impossible for election officials to determine whether the ballots were mailed in time to be counted. The U.S. Election Assistance Commission says that in the last four federal elections, 2.7 million mail-in ballots were misdelivered and 1.3 million were rejected by election officials.
In the 2016 election, almost 130 million Americans voted. Does anyone really think the Postal Service will be able to suddenly handle 260 million pieces of additional mailthat is, the ballots being mailed out by election officials, and then mailed back by voters? "


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Clench281
10/20/20 10:00:25 PM
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McConnell Moves to Head Off Stimulus Deal as Pelosi Reports Progress

The top Senate Republican told colleagues that he had advised the White House against striking a pre-election deal with Democrats to deliver pandemic aid, fearing political repercussions.

LOL

McConnell admits he'll hold it up because a stimulus bill would hurt Republican senators chances in their elections

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Wanded
10/20/20 10:16:15 PM
#73:


Clench281 posted...
McConnell admits he'll hold it up because a stimulus bill would hurt Republican senators chances in their elections
why? won't them giving aid money to people make said people more inclined to vote for them?

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OrangeDawn
10/20/20 10:51:08 PM
#74:


lmfao republicans look like clowns once again

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Zangulus
10/20/20 11:02:58 PM
#75:


The Fiscally Conservative party chooses to be Fiscally Conservative at the time when it will hurt their constituents the most.

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OrangeDawn
10/20/20 11:05:26 PM
#76:


What does it say about their perception of the public when theyre ignoring a chance to lift millions out of poverty

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Zangulus
10/20/20 11:07:25 PM
#77:


OrangeDawn posted...
What does it say about their perception of the public when theyre ignoring a chance to lift millions out of poverty

Many of those millions decry such a move (which is how it hurts republican chances for reelection) because they've been taught that taxes that shouldn't effect them are a bad thing.

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darkknight109
10/21/20 12:48:26 AM
#78:


Wanded posted...
why? won't them giving aid money to people make said people more inclined to vote for them?
Republicans know they're going to lose the upcoming election, so they don't want to pass a stimulus package, the effects of which will mostly come to fruition in a Biden presidency.

They would literally rather millions of Americans suffer than have a Democrat look good.

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Wanded
10/21/20 12:58:14 AM
#79:


darkknight109 posted...
Republicans know they're going to lose the upcoming election, so they don't want to pass a stimulus package, the effects of which will mostly come to fruition in a Biden presidency.

They would literally rather millions of Americans suffer than have a Democrat look good.
Republicans will win with or without a stimulus but they'll have more votes and positive outlook if they give some more of those trump checks before the election, also according to your theory, all pelosi has to do to bust through this plan is to agree to the 1.8T offer she declined

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Phantom_Nook
10/21/20 1:30:51 AM
#80:


Wanded posted...
why? won't them giving aid money to people make said people more inclined to vote for them?

Go ask Moscow Mitch.
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Clench281
10/21/20 7:02:50 AM
#81:


Wanded posted...
why? won't them giving aid money to people make said people more inclined to vote for them?

Lmao

Why are you questioning this?

Either you don't believe Mitch said this (he did) or you think you know better than Mitch about the politics of the situation (you don't)

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BUMPED2002
10/21/20 8:33:26 AM
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To be quite honest, this pandemic isn't a GOP or Dem issue. It's an American issue and as such our elected officials should do the right thing and assist those who have lost their jobs due to Covid but a few weeks ago Steve Mnuchin told people to stop waiting on the Government for help and go find a job and that to me is uncaring.

In my opinion a Government's role is protecting a country's borders against foreign invaders and protecting its citizens in any way possible and sadly America hasn't been doing that the past 4 decades.

FDR way back in the 1930s after witnessing the devastation of the Great Depression, decided to put safety nets in place in case of an economic downturn which is where SS, Unemployment Insurance, and Workman's Comp came from.

Remember prior to the Great Depression and the FDRs New Deal, working-class people had no safety nets or retirement plans etc and the New Deal and Labor Unions pushed for healthcare benefits , retirement benefits, better and safer working conditions, 40 hour work week with weekends off, better pay etc and that has all been eroded since the 1970s sadly. People don't know this but men like Andrew Carnegie abused the workers in his steel mills and those workers were White men which tells me Carnegie cared nothing about them as many men who worked for Carnegie ended up permanently disabled due to workplace injuries and those people weren't compensated at all which means they lived the rest of their lives in some cases dependent on fam members for their survival and that's why the New Deal was created along with Labor Unions which fought against corporate abuse of its workers but we're inching back to those days again in 2020.

Prior to the New Deal, no working-class people owned their own home simply because most people had no collateral and most banks feared people would default and not repay so the banks simply wouldn't loan money but FDR under the New Deal created the FHA home loans in which the US Government using taxpayer money would underwrite all home loans against default and the banks then were willing to lend money which made it possible for some of grandparents etc to purchase a family home and by allowing working people to buy homes, that put wealth at the fingertips of people who otherwise wouldn't have been able to a buy a home. One of my grandfathers actually used the G.I. Bill to attend college becoming the only one in his immediate family to earn a college degree and that would not have been possible without the G.I. Bill.

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darkknight109
10/21/20 11:54:05 AM
#83:


Wanded posted...
Republicans will win with or without a stimulus
Current polls have the Democrats at ~95% chance of keeping the house, a ~90% chance of winning the presidency, and a ~67% chance of taking control of the senate.

At this point, barring a massive upset or major late-game October Surprise, the only body that the Republicans *might* hang onto is the senate, and even there their odds are looking longer by the day.

Wanded posted...
also according to your theory, all pelosi has to do to bust through this plan is to agree to the 1.8T offer she declined
Moscow Mitch has not endorsed any stimulus plan, including the $1.8 trillion offer you're referring to, and in fact has warned the White House against supporting it because he does not want to bring it up for a vote, where it would likely fail anyways because the Republicans don't have the numbers to pass it.

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likehelly
10/21/20 11:57:15 AM
#84:


mhm

mitch has already said that he would kill any bill brought to him, from either side.

he needs to go.

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OrangeDawn
10/21/20 6:44:00 PM
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https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1319022315036987394

*pretends to be shocked*

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Zangulus
10/21/20 6:50:47 PM
#86:


OrangeDawn posted...
https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1319022315036987394

*pretends to be shocked*

You can't post that in this topic. TC can't handle anything that puts the GOP in a negative light. It hurts hims.

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Wanded
10/22/20 4:21:32 PM
#87:


Zangulus posted...
You can't post that in this topic. TC can't handle anything that puts the GOP in a negative light. It hurts hims.
what he sent is in accordance with what i am saying which is the gop put a 1.8t offer on the table and democrats said no so...?


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OrangeDawn
10/22/20 4:52:35 PM
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Why are you just straight up lying lol

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Wanded
10/22/20 5:19:51 PM
#89:


OrangeDawn posted...
Why are you just straight up lying lol
Are you saying there was no 1.8t offer nancy pelosi killed?

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OrangeDawn
10/22/20 5:47:49 PM
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There's literally no offer. It's just a number and no details are being offered. Anyone with a 10th of the brain your size would know not to sign something they don't know the details of

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Zangulus
10/22/20 6:20:49 PM
#91:


Wanded posted...
what he sent is in accordance with what i am saying which is the gop put a 1.8t offer on the table and democrats said no so...?

You've tried to push that narrative already. Do you not realize I'm not fucking stupid enough to buy it? Nah, I guess you don't, because you're still trying to sell the same stale worthless pile of crap. Go wash your hands.

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Wanded
10/22/20 7:21:11 PM
#92:


Zangulus posted...
You've tried to push that narrative already. Do you not realize I'm not fucking stupid enough to buy it? Nah, I guess you don't, because you're still trying to sell the same stale worthless pile of crap. Go wash your hands.
you mean truth and reality?lol


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Zangulus
10/22/20 8:59:52 PM
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Wanded posted...
you mean truth and reality?lol

Only from the twisted perspective of someone who is completely naive.

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