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s0nicfan
10/16/20 3:15:14 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54573356
A teacher has been beheaded in a suburb north-west of the French capital Paris, reports say, with the attacker shot dead by police.

The victim in Conflans-Sainte-Honorine was a teacher who is said to have shown caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad to his students.

The anti-terrorism prosecutor has been called in to lead an investigation into the attack.

The incident occurred at about 17:00 local time (15:00 GMT) near a school.

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UnfairRepresent
10/16/20 3:16:12 PM
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that's awful

WTF
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CruelBuffalo
10/16/20 3:16:39 PM
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Yikes. Hopefully they catch the person(s) such a gruesome way to go
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Cheater87
10/16/20 3:17:25 PM
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Damn, was he killed by someone who a student knew?

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LightHawKnight
10/16/20 3:18:02 PM
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Attacker was shot dead huh.

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Smackems
10/16/20 3:18:04 PM
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They should break out that one contraption they used to use for this one

Edit: nm. He was killed. Do it anyway

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daGamexx
10/16/20 3:18:14 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Damn, was he killed by someone who a student knew?
What do you think.

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Heavy_D_Forever
10/16/20 3:19:14 PM
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From the article

"A man wielding a large knife is reported to have attacked the teacher in a street, cutting off his head. The attacker then ran off, but local police alerted by the public were quickly at the scene in the nearby area of ragny."

Like holy shit, I can't imagine it's easy to cut someone's head off. Dude must have been hacking away at it for a while. Fucking insane.

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CruelBuffalo
10/16/20 3:19:38 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Attacker was shot dead huh.

Ah I thought the Tc posted the whole article. Yikes all around
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3PiesAndAFork
10/16/20 3:20:26 PM
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That's fucking awful. Straight up murder.

Why did they bring the antiterrorism unit in to investigate? Just because a brown guy does it doesn't make it terrorism.

CruelBuffalo posted...
Yikes. Hopefully they catch the person(s) such a gruesome way to go
It says they guy was shot dead by the police.

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s0nicfan
10/16/20 3:20:51 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Ah I thought the Tc posted the whole article. Yikes all around

For future reference I usually only copy the first couple of paragraphs of articles I reference if I'm making a topic. I'd prefer people actually visit to get the whole details rather than just pasting a wall of text nobody will read.

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Heavy_D_Forever
10/16/20 3:23:03 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
That's fucking awful. Straight up murder.

Why did they bring the antiterrorism unit in to investigate? Just because a brown guy does it doesn't make it terrorism.
Beheading someone in the streets is pretty much exclusively done by terrorists.


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Tenlaar
10/16/20 3:23:27 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
Why did they bring the antiterrorism unit in to investigate? Just because a brown guy does it doesn't make it terrorism.
Gee, I don't know, maybe because it seems to be retribution by a religious extremist for a classroom discussion involving Muhammad?
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Panthera
10/16/20 3:24:49 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...


Why did they bring the antiterrorism unit in to investigate? Just because a brown guy does it doesn't make it terrorism.

Terrorist groups have encouraged or committed murders over this in the past, it's reasonable to look into whether this is another example

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Pandamonic
10/16/20 3:28:22 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
Why did they bring the antiterrorism unit in to investigate? Just because a brown guy does it doesn't make it terrorism.
If beheading someone because they showed a picture of the prophet isn't terrorism, I don't know what is...
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gamer167
10/16/20 3:28:36 PM
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Oh religion, you crazy
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3PiesAndAFork
10/16/20 3:33:55 PM
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To everyone who responded to me saying it's terrorism: I see your point, but I see it as a religious nutjob who killed a guy because he made fun of the prophet.

Terrorism is, and I quote from the Oxford dictionary:

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

This is more akin to Bubba from butt-fuck Arkansas shooting a guy for dissing his sister. You wouldn't call that terrorism, would you?

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Giant_Aspirin
10/16/20 3:36:30 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
To everyone who responded to me saying it's terrorism: I see your point, but I see it as a religious nutjob who killed a guy because he made fun of the prophet.

Terrorism is, and I quote from the Oxford dictionary:

This is more akin to Bubba from butt-fuck Arkansas shooting a guy for dissing his sister. You wouldn't call that terrorism, would you?

their political aims are to censor any and all imagery of their prophet

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10/16/20 3:37:37 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
This is more akin to Bubba from butt-fuck Arkansas shooting a guy for dissing his sister. You wouldn't call that terrorism, would you?
If his sister was a major figurehead for a worldwide organized religion, I might just call it that

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Panthera
10/16/20 3:38:27 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
To everyone who responded to me saying it's terrorism: I see your point, but I see it as a religious nutjob who killed a guy because he made fun of the prophet.

Terrorism is, and I quote from the Oxford dictionary:

This is more akin to Bubba from butt-fuck Arkansas shooting a guy for dissing his sister. You wouldn't call that terrorism, would you?

If there were terrorist groups whose MO was doing what Bubba did for the exact same reasons, I'd expect the authorities to investigate to see if it was linked to those groups

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EmbraceOfDeath
10/16/20 3:38:53 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
To everyone who responded to me saying it's terrorism: I see your point, but I see it as a religious nutjob who killed a guy because he made fun of the prophet.

Terrorism is, and I quote from the Oxford dictionary:

This is more akin to Bubba from butt-fuck Arkansas shooting a guy for dissing his sister. You wouldn't call that terrorism, would you?
Killing someone for doing something your shitty religion doesn't like to silence them and intimidate others is political.

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DemonBuffet
10/16/20 3:41:00 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Killing someone for doing something your shitty religion doesn't like to silence them and intimidate others is political.

this

@3PiesAndAFork so kindly shut the fuck up

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cuh
10/16/20 3:42:15 PM
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Its a shame what a religion can do to a countrys values on freedom and liberty.

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HighOnSolar
10/16/20 3:42:34 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
To everyone who responded to me saying it's terrorism: I see your point, but I see it as a religious nutjob who killed a guy because he made fun of the prophet.

Terrorism is, and I quote from the Oxford dictionary:

This is more akin to Bubba from butt-fuck Arkansas shooting a guy for dissing his sister. You wouldn't call that terrorism, would you?

lmao oh buddy

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cuh
10/16/20 3:44:21 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
To everyone who responded to me saying it's terrorism: I see your point, but I see it as a religious nutjob who killed a guy because he made fun of the prophet.

A religious nut job would have, say, emailed the teacher expressing their anger, escalating to perhaps calling the school district with, I dunno, plans to sue, pulling their kid out of class, etc.

A terrorist would kill the teacher.

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Phynaster
10/16/20 3:48:33 PM
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cuh posted...
Its a shame what a religion can do to a countrys values on freedom and liberty.
What French values have been changed exactly? Fuck off with the dogwhistling. Police responded and shot the terrorist.

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refmon
10/16/20 3:58:24 PM
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Phynaster posted...
Fuck off with the dogwhistling. Police responded and shot the terrorist.
Instead of proactively nipping this thing in the bud

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Phynaster
10/16/20 4:19:25 PM
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refmon posted...
Instead of proactively nipping this thing in the bud
By:

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s0nicfan
10/16/20 4:23:33 PM
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Phynaster posted...
By:

Actually...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54383173
Speaking outside Paris on Friday, Mr Macron said "Islamist separatism" was a danger to France because it held its own laws above all others and "often results in the creation of a counter-society".

He said this form of sectarianism often translated into children being kept out of school, and the use of sporting, cultural and other community activities as a "pretext to teach principles that do not conform to the laws of the republic".

"Islam is a religion that is in crisis all over the world today, we are not just seeing this in our country."

The measures announced by the president will form legislation that will go to parliament before the end of the year.

They include:
stricter monitoring of sports organisations and other associations so that they do not become a front for Islamist teaching
an end to the system of imams being sent to France from abroad
improved oversight of the financing of mosques
home-schooling restricted

Mr Macron also said France must do more to offer economic and social mobility to immigrant communities, adding that radicals had often filled the vacuum.



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kingdrake2
10/16/20 4:24:40 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
This is more akin to Bubba from butt-fuck Arkansas shooting a guy for dissing his sister


more of a feud. different scenario imo :(.
targeted terrorism FTL.
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kuwab0
10/16/20 4:32:42 PM
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Ivynn
10/16/20 4:32:58 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Killing someone for doing something your shitty religion doesn't like to silence them and intimidate others is political.

This. The whole point is to the send the message "this is what will happen if you disrespect the prophet."

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Antifar
10/16/20 4:33:22 PM
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Seems bad, imo
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EzeDoesIt
10/16/20 4:37:32 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
That's fucking awful. Straight up murder.

Why did they bring the antiterrorism unit in to investigate? Just because a brown guy does it doesn't make it terrorism.

Cutting someones head off is definitely an act of terrorism. In fact, this is even the etymology:

late 18th century (in reference to the rule of the Jacobin faction during the the period of the French Revolution known as the Terror): from French terrorisme, from Latin terror


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cuh
10/16/20 4:53:12 PM
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Phynaster posted...
What French values have been changed exactly? Fuck off with the dogwhistling. Police responded and shot the terrorist.

Oh great the police killed him everything is okay its not like a whole school community, children and families, are gonna be affected by the gruesome death of the teacher

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TooLateToGoBack
10/16/20 4:54:22 PM
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religion of peace

but Europe going to Europe
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shockthemonkey
10/16/20 4:56:47 PM
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cuh posted...
Its a shame what a religion can do to a countrys values on freedom and liberty.
...what?

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Phynaster
10/16/20 5:03:26 PM
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cuh posted...
Oh great the police killed him everything is okay its not like a whole school community, children and families, are gonna be affected by the gruesome death of the teacher
Did I say otherwise? Youre pretending France is tolerating this. Fuck outta here yet another 15 year old account randomly showing up on CE for the first time spewing rightwing rhetoric

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RoxyReturns
10/16/20 5:05:34 PM
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Phynaster posted...
Did I say otherwise? Youre pretending France is tolerating this. Fuck outta here yet another 15 year old account randomly showing up on CE for the first time spewing rightwing rhetoric

"tolerating"? shut the fuck up with your racist ass dog whistle, we all know you hate Islam and muslims simply because they are "brown people"....stop projecting your racist anti-islam bullshit onto the world lmao.................tolerating? shut the fuck up, they are co-existing and your mad that its happening and point at little hiccups along the way as some sort of indicator that multiculturism doesnt work.......WELL GUESS WHAT? ITS NOT GOING ANYWHERE SWEETIE
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NinjaWarrior455
10/16/20 5:05:56 PM
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Yikes at all the Islamaphobia emanating from this topic

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PrettyBoyFloyd
10/16/20 5:08:21 PM
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gamer167 posted...
Oh religion, you crazy

You picked the wrong religion to speak against.

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Phynaster
10/16/20 5:15:18 PM
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Shut the fuck up Rox

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cuh
10/16/20 5:15:50 PM
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It's almost as if teachers shouldn't be expendable fodder for the sake of your views or ideals. Honestly, if you're not a teacher, I wouldn't expect you to understand... at all. I say that, of course, as a literal school teacher.

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Phynaster
10/16/20 5:20:52 PM
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cuh posted...
It's almost as if teachers shouldn't be expendable fodder for the sake of your views or ideals. Honestly, if you're not a teacher, I wouldn't expect you to understand... at all. I say that, of course, as a literal school teacher.
You gonna explain how Frances ideals have changed to accommodate extremism or keep vaguely shitposting?

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Poop2
10/16/20 5:26:16 PM
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they need to find the kid that snitched and death penalty
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Phynaster
10/16/20 5:28:41 PM
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Gonna go ahead and say lets no execute a child for something they may have had no idea about

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cuh
10/16/20 5:43:33 PM
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Phynaster posted...
You gonna explain how Frances ideals have changed to accommodate extremism

I don't disagree with you... I don't think France is accommodating any of this. But this isn't a matter of accommodating or not. You could be the most accommodating teacher ever and it won't matter at all if a student's parent literally kills you.

I think we differ in this: you think it's fine that teachers have the literal threat of being beheaded for (I'm not sure of the phrasing here) engaging in a religious faux pas. I don't think that's true. I wouldn't feel any amount of liberty (or equality, for that matter) with that over my head.

When I teach topics such as LGBTQ history (in America), I may get an angry email from a parent or two. But a literal threat of life? Nah.

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Phynaster
10/16/20 5:46:49 PM
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Lmao. So were moving the goalposts to talking about teachers instead of France, and implying im okay with teachers being beheaded.

fuck off with this absolute fucking nonsense

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cuh
10/16/20 5:50:02 PM
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Phynaster posted...
Lmao. So were moving the goalposts to talking about teachers instead of France, and implying im okay with teachers being beheaded.

fuck off with this absolute fucking nonsense

??? I dont understand why you think that the fact that it was a teacher who was beheaded isnt a crucial element of the incident and subsequent discussions that will be held within that school community?

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Phynaster
10/16/20 5:53:12 PM
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It has nothing to do with your claims that Frances ideals have been changed by Islam. But you and I both know you just want to dogwhistle

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