Current Events > Teacher beheaded in Paris after showing a picture of the prophet to his students

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The_Creep_2020
10/17/20 3:53:28 AM
#103:


iPhone_7 posted...
Showing a drawing of the prophet should be treated as a hate crime in western countries. Its hate speech towards Muslims. Hate speech is violence.
The last time I checked, most western countries dont treat hate crimes as a capital offence.

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St0rmFury
10/17/20 4:34:22 AM
#104:


iPhone_7 posted...
Showing a drawing of the prophet should be treated as a hate crime in western countries. Its hate speech towards Muslims. Hate speech is violence.
Yikes, screenshot'd & tagged.

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Arcanine2009
10/17/20 4:59:14 AM
#105:


iPhone_7 posted...
Showing a drawing of the prophet should be treated as a hate crime in western countries. Its hate speech towards Muslims. Hate speech is violence.

As a former Muslim, this is rather silly and would need context, like proof of knowledge and intent to offend, and an obviously offensive caricature to boot. Most of the world does not know en that drawing depictions of muhammad (and this is more towards Muslims than any other group) is "forbidden." And no matter what the drawing, death threats and violence is never justified.

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s0nicfan
10/17/20 8:44:25 AM
#106:


Bbc updates:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54581827
Nine people have been arrested, including the parents of a child at Mr Paty's school, judicial sources are quoted as saying.

Police say the attacker was an 18-year-old man of Chechen origin.

A man wielding a large knife attacked the teacher in the street, cutting off his head. Witnesses are said to have heard the attacker shout "Allahu Akbar", or "God is Greatest".

A picture of the beheaded teacher was posted to social media in the immediate aftermath, but it is not clear if this was by the assailant or an accomplice.



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SSJCAT
10/17/20 9:04:08 AM
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hockeybub89
10/17/20 11:03:59 AM
#108:


I'm not a Muslim, so I am not beholden to the words of their silly books.

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kingdrake2
10/17/20 11:14:40 AM
#109:


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damn he did it... we're all fucked.

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InhumaneRaider
10/17/20 11:17:21 AM
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Oh fuck, I opened the front page of Reddit and that's immediately what I see. Good god.

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Phynaster
10/17/20 12:55:17 PM
#111:


Why are people responding to pinchekria/iphone seriously in 2020

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TimDiamond
10/17/20 1:10:30 PM
#112:


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Reported for defiling a religion.
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iPhone_7
10/17/20 4:28:54 PM
#113:


yikes @ the islamaphobia ITT. Jesus ****ing Christ.

The_Creep_2020 posted...
The last time I checked, most western countries dont treat hate crimes as a capital offence.

Hate crimes shouldnt be treated with capital offense. The death penalty should be outlawed.

Drawing the prophet and showing it to Muslims with the intent to cause offense should be treated as a hate crime similar to how drawing a swastika to show to Jewish people is punishable as a hate crime.

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HagenEx
10/17/20 4:41:02 PM
#115:


Heavy_D_Forever posted...
From the article

"A man wielding a large knife is reported to have attacked the teacher in a street, cutting off his head. The attacker then ran off, but local police alerted by the public were quickly at the scene in the nearby area of ragny."

Like holy shit, I can't imagine it's easy to cut someone's head off. Dude must have been hacking away at it for a while. Fucking insane.

Then you clearly haven't seen videos from the Mexican cartels or old Al-Qaeda tapes (Understandable since not a lot of people would like to see beheadings, I'm mostly desensitized to them after watching dozens). They use this fucking tiny knife, and the head is off in like 6 seconds.

They basically have the sharpest fucking knives in the world.

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s0nicfan
10/17/20 4:46:30 PM
#117:


CloneTheHero posted...
totally agree.

if you were a christian kid in an islamic country how would you feel about your teacher making a mockery of the cross? put yourself in that scenario

obviously you probably wouldnt commit a heinous act of violence like this guy did (unless youre a psycho) but you certainly would've been upset. respect other peoples beliefs or this type of shit will continue to happen

I hope you realize the teacher in this case wasn't making a mockery of anything.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54581827
Mr Ricard said Mr Paty had been the target of threats since he showed the cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad during a class about freedom of speech, in relation to the Charlie Hebdo case.

Mr Paty, a history and geography teacher, advised Muslim students to look away if they thought they might be offended.

Aside from the horror of this killing, there's powerful symbolism too. The education minister said the root of what happened was "hatred of the Republic".

The passing on of French national values - liberty, equality, fraternity - is seen as a core task of the education system here.



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DeadBankerDream
10/17/20 4:56:01 PM
#120:


The victim blaming in this topic is staggering.
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hockeybub89
10/17/20 6:46:28 PM
#121:


CloneTheHero posted...
thats like drawing a swastika and asking people not to be offended lol. so he wasnt intentionally mocking it but it was still offensive to muslims. very ignorant on the teachers part to even attempt drawing it no matter how cordial he was about it
So we should not show the swastika in history classes or in media? Because it's offensive to groups of people that were thrown in concentration camps? Intent doesn't matter? Nuance is dead? Nothing offensive should be visible?

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Middle hope
10/17/20 6:56:11 PM
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They are STILL killing over this? What the fuck.

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Rob Cesternino
10/17/20 8:12:57 PM
#123:


Middle hope posted...
They are STILL killing over this? What the fuck.

Wait, you thought they stopped?

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Middle hope
10/17/20 10:04:47 PM
#124:


Rob Cesternino posted...
Wait, you thought they stopped?
I keep hearing how this never happens and all this talk about peace and civility

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AloneIBreak
10/17/20 10:10:30 PM
#125:


To think, there are people who would assert that all cultures are equal.

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hockeybub89
10/17/20 10:12:26 PM
#126:


Middle hope posted...
I keep hearing how this never happens and all this talk about peace and civility
I mean, American conservativism commits murders every year too. I guess we can stamp out that depraved culture as well while we're at it.

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St0rmFury
10/18/20 1:50:07 AM
#127:




An example of how my local forum members try to defend the killer's actions. (I'm from a Muslim majority country)

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Middle hope
10/18/20 2:52:09 AM
#129:


St0rmFury posted...


An example of how my local forum members try to defend the killer's actions. (I'm from a Muslim majority country)
Fucking loons

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berlyman101
10/18/20 4:08:34 AM
#130:


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St0rmFury posted...


An example of how my local forum members try to defend the killer's actions. (I'm from a Muslim majority country)

" might makes right." no more, no less. the same time-tested tyranny with a different spin.

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Heavy_D_Forever
10/18/20 4:13:23 AM
#131:


hockeybub89 posted...
I mean, American conservativism commits murders every year too. I guess we can stamp out that depraved culture as well while we're at it.
Please tell me when an American Conservative beheaded someone in the streets over a drawing. Oh wait that never happened so that comparison is ridiculously idiotic.

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St0rmFury
10/18/20 4:45:17 AM
#132:




Another.

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St0rmFury
10/18/20 10:53:57 PM
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FortuneCookie
10/18/20 11:03:56 PM
#134:


It's stupid to intentionally provoke people based upon religion, but the response was immeasurably worse. You don't murder someone for insulting you or someone/something you care about.

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lce_Cube
10/20/20 9:12:09 AM
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Lorenzo_2003
10/20/20 9:51:51 AM
#138:


shockthemonkey posted...
Welp got kicked out of a Facebook group because I posted a picture of Mohammed in response to someone defending this

Lmao

This is a big reason why I still come here. Even the members I hardly agree with on almost anything can still give me a good laugh once in a while.

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s0nicfan
10/20/20 3:59:56 PM
#139:


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54613565
The father of a pupil accused of launching an online campaign against Samuel Paty, the teacher beheaded in France, sent messages to the killer before the attack, French media report.

Mr Paty, who was killed on Friday, had earlier shown controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad to his pupils.

The 48-year-old father, who has not been officially named, is accused of issuing a "fatwa" against the teacher.

He is accused, along with a preacher described by French media as a radical Islamist, of calling for Mr Paty to be punished by issuing a so-called "fatwa" (considered a legal ruling by Islamic scholars).

Interior Minister Grald Darmanin said the two men had been arrested and were being investigated for an "assassination in connection with a terrorist enterprise".



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Middle hope
10/20/20 10:20:17 PM
#140:


shockthemonkey posted...
Welp got kicked out of a Facebook group because I posted a picture of Mohammed in response to someone defending this
You better be careful doing that shit. Some people take it waaaaay too seriously

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Dreepapult
10/20/20 10:41:11 PM
#141:


SSJCAT posted...
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