Board 8 > What was the exact moment when Tim Burton's shtick got old?

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Anagram 10/04/20 3:15:52 PM #1:	I was thinking about this a little while ago, and I think it might be Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:945448153] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>I was thinking about this a little while ago, and I think it might be Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 10/04/20 3:16:41 PM #2:	Great movie --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:945448182] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Great movie </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 10/04/20 3:20:21 PM #3:	I'd say Alice in Wonderland, but Charlie was certainly a harbinger. Corpse Bride and Sweeney Todd are still good movies. --- Is this girl the cat or is she the canary? https://imgur.com/1e1e70S - https://imgur.com/XObpAjw <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:945448312] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>I'd say Alice in Wonderland, but Charlie was certainly a harbinger. Corpse Bride and Sweeney Todd are still good movies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aecioo 10/04/20 3:26:06 PM #4:	The quality of his films is inversely proportional to the amount of Helena Bonham Carter in the film --- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ <cite>Aecioo posted [p:945448520] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>The quality of his films is inversely proportional to the amount of Helena Bonham Carter in the film </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 10/04/20 3:27:00 PM #5:	Snake5555555555 posted... I'd say Alice in Wonderland, but Charlie was certainly a harbinger. Corpse Bride and Sweeney Todd are still good movies. Id agree here. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory were the first cracks starting to show, but he was still good until Alice in Wonderland. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:945448556] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Snake5555555555 posted... </cite> <quote>I'd say Alice in Wonderland, but Charlie was certainly a harbinger. Corpse Bride and Sweeney Todd are still good movies.</quote> Id agree here. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory were the first cracks starting to show, but he was still good until Alice in Wonderland. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aecioo 10/04/20 3:31:37 PM #6:	Honestly though I want him to do more stuff outside his wheelhouse. I think it's fun when he does stuff like Big Fish where the gothic elements are just along the edges. Haven't seen Dumbo and don't really plan on it, but even if its as mediocre as I've heard I think that's a nice change of pace --- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ <cite>Aecioo posted [p:945448745] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Honestly though I want him to do more stuff outside his wheelhouse. I think it's fun when he does stuff like Big Fish where the gothic elements are just along the edges. Haven't seen Dumbo and don't really plan on it, but even if its as mediocre as I've heard I think that's a nice change of pace </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KCF0107 10/04/20 3:36:25 PM #7:	I liked Big Fish, but I haven't seen nor had any interest in any of the films he has directed since. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu <cite>KCF0107 posted [p:945448941] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>I liked Big Fish, but I haven't seen nor had any interest in any of the films he has directed since.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aecioo 10/04/20 3:38:59 PM #8:	KCF0107 posted... I liked Big Fish, but I haven't seen nor had any interest in any of the films he has directed since. Sweeney Todd is good but I'm also a big fan of musicals. He nailed it - took a pretty good musical and made a pretty good film. Dont think it can be done much better given the source material --- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ <cite>Aecioo posted [p:945449029] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>KCF0107 posted... </cite> <quote>I liked Big Fish, but I haven't seen nor had any interest in any of the films he has directed since.</quote> Sweeney Todd is good but I'm also a big fan of musicals. He nailed it - took a pretty good musical and made a pretty good film. Dont think it can be done much better given the source material </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MawiIe 10/04/20 3:41:41 PM #9:	Charlie and the chocolate factory was great, but that's when public perception seemed to start getting disillusioned with his stuff. It suffered from having depp replace wilder, which at face value is just too "Tim Burton" but in genuine objective reality he was just a genuinely perfect cast. Sweeny Todd was probably the more direct "ok I think I've got it now, didn't need to watch it." --- SantaRPG: Turning "i"s into "l"s since 2008! https://imgur.com/c9koh <cite>MawiIe posted [p:945449144] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Charlie and the chocolate factory was great, but that's when public perception seemed to start getting disillusioned with his stuff. It suffered from having depp replace wilder, which at face value is just too "Tim Burton" but in genuine objective reality he was just a genuinely perfect cast. Sweeny Todd was probably the more direct "ok I think I've got it now, didn't need to watch it." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bane_Of_Despair 10/04/20 3:44:32 PM #10:	you know what movie's not good Dark Shadows --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be I really messed up this contest, but azuarc gave it a Breath of fresh air <cite>Bane_Of_Despair posted [p:945449284] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>you know what movie's not good Dark Shadows </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 10/04/20 3:46:10 PM #11:	wtf people think Charlie and the Chocolate Factory isn't complete garbage Weird --- rip imgcake <cite>KingButz posted [p:945449346] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>wtf people think Charlie and the Chocolate Factory isn't complete garbage Weird</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 10/04/20 3:46:58 PM #12:	I missed a lot of these but Alice was when I left the theater thinking "That wasn't good." --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:945449385] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>I missed a lot of these but Alice was when I left the theater thinking "That wasn't good." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 10/04/20 3:49:07 PM #13:	KingButz posted... wtf people think Charlie and the Chocolate Factory isn't complete garbage It's not as good as the original, but it's still a solid movie I'd say. --- https://imgur.com/gOGzcN4 <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:945449467] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>KingButz posted... </cite> <quote>wtf people think Charlie and the Chocolate Factory isn't complete garbage</quote> It's not as good as the original, but it's still a solid movie I'd say. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bane_Of_Despair 10/04/20 3:51:17 PM #14:	Charlie and the Chocolate Factory has some fun moments still --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be I really messed up this contest, but azuarc gave it a Breath of fresh air <cite>Bane_Of_Despair posted [p:945449554] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Charlie and the Chocolate Factory has some fun moments still </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 10/04/20 3:53:10 PM #15:	I also don't think his shtick getting old is the problem here. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:945449632] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>I also don't think his shtick getting old is the problem here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 10/04/20 3:59:48 PM #16:	The issue is thinking a stylistic approach "gets old." It's just about the writing and directing. This is a bass-ackwards way to approach things - what you don't like is a dip in quality, not the nature of general tone and artistic direction. And let's stop calling things "shtick" that aren't "shtick". --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:945449895] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>The issue is thinking a stylistic approach "gets old." It's just about the writing and directing. This is a bass-ackwards way to approach things - what you don't like is a dip in quality, not the nature of general tone and artistic direction. And let's stop calling things "shtick" that aren't "shtick". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grand Kirby 10/04/20 4:08:28 PM #17:	Maybe Corpse Bride. Both that and CatC were in 2005.... --- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan <cite>Grand Kirby posted [p:945450298] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Maybe Corpse Bride. Both that and CatC were in 2005.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 10/04/20 4:11:21 PM #18:	Yeah if Tarantino movies were bad people would say we were just getting bored of his style. His style is consistently great, but sometimes he writes a very bland movie. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:945450425] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Yeah if Tarantino movies were bad people would say we were just getting bored of his style. His style is consistently great, but sometimes he writes a very bland movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 10/04/20 4:18:53 PM #19:	cracks were seen in corpse bride. it was fine but a notable drop of previous works, especially nightmare before christmas. charlie sucked. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:945450779] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>cracks were seen in corpse bride. it was fine but a notable drop of previous works, especially nightmare before christmas. charlie sucked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 10/04/20 4:31:07 PM #20:	came in to say Alice Had no problem with Charlie --- Not to be confused with XIII_stones. https://imgur.com/agodP3r <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:945451304] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>came in to say Alice Had no problem with Charlie </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 10/04/20 4:42:08 PM #21:	Wanglicious posted... cracks were seen in corpse bride. it was fine but a notable drop of previous works, especially nightmare before christmas. charlie sucked. Burton only produced Nightmare Before Christmas. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:945451701] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Wanglicious posted... </cite> <quote>cracks were seen in corpse bride. it was fine but a notable drop of previous works, especially nightmare before christmas. charlie sucked.</quote> Burton only produced Nightmare Before Christmas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StifledSilence 10/04/20 4:44:18 PM #22:	I liked Charlie. Alice was garbage though. When you push a side character as the star just because of Johnny Depp when your main character is in the title, you have a problem. --- Bear Bro The Empire of Silence <cite>StifledSilence posted [p:945451784] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>I liked Charlie. Alice was garbage though. When you push a side character as the star just because of Johnny Depp when your main character is in the title, you have a problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 10/04/20 8:30:32 PM #23:	Charlie and Alice were absolute trash movies that I still loathe. Alice was even worse one of the few movies I saw and went what a waste of time. But everything before that was kind of a banger. <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:945459970] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Charlie and Alice were absolute trash movies that I still loathe. Alice was even worse one of the few movies I saw and went what a waste of time. But everything before that was kind of a banger. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 10/04/20 8:33:20 PM #24:	April 17th, ~1:54:60.1838523420342934203523849234082349234029384 PM, EDT, 2003 --- You shine, and make others shine just by being near them. <cite>NFUN posted [p:945460067] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>April 17th, ~1:54:60.1838523420342934203523849234082349234029384 PM, EDT, 2003 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seginustemple 10/04/20 9:05:45 PM #25:	Somewhere in the middle of Mars Attacks! --- You bow to no one, azuarc <cite>Seginustemple posted [p:945461317] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Somewhere in the middle of Mars Attacks!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LOLIAmAnAlt 10/05/20 4:07:43 AM #26:	Right around 2000 Big FIsh was alright though --- lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll <cite>LOLIAmAnAlt posted [p:945471556] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Right around 2000 Big FIsh was alright though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jcgamer107 10/05/20 5:43:55 AM #27:	Anagram posted... I was thinking about this a little while ago, and I think it might be Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Yes. Sweeney Todd is the only one that stands out after that. --- azuarc wasn't even home. he was playing Magic the Gathering at his buddy's store, which is extremely easy to verify <cite>jcgamer107 posted [p:945472682] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Anagram posted... </cite> <quote>I was thinking about this a little while ago, and I think it might be Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.</quote>Yes. Sweeney Todd is the only one that stands out after that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 10/05/20 8:11:40 AM #28:	Seginustemple posted... Somewhere in the middle of Mars Attacks! Going to suggest this, at least based on critical reception (little interest in seeing it myself). --- Anyone who thinks Rey is a Mary Sue is effectively a misogynist. <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:945474672] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Seginustemple posted... </cite> <quote>Somewhere in the middle of Mars Attacks!</quote> Going to suggest this, at least based on critical reception (little interest in seeing it myself). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 10/05/20 1:10:52 PM #29:	Batman Returns. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:945482895] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Batman Returns. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoolCly 10/05/20 1:15:44 PM #30:	Oh, I just looked at his filmography and he did Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children? I read the book since I had a niece that really loved it so we could discuss it. It has its own distinct style but it could probably survive being coopted by Burton's style. I wonder how that turned out.... --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:945483043] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Oh, I just looked at his filmography and he did Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children? I read the book since I had a niece that really loved it so we could discuss it. It has its own distinct style but it could probably survive being coopted by Burton's style. I wonder how that turned out.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aecioo 10/05/20 1:19:44 PM #31:	LinkMarioSamus posted... Going to suggest this, at least based on critical reception (little interest in seeing it myself). Mars Attacks! is great schlock. I know you don't watch movies but check it out. --- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ <cite>Aecioo posted [p:945483186] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>LinkMarioSamus posted... </cite> <quote>Going to suggest this, at least based on critical reception (little interest in seeing it myself).</quote> Mars Attacks! is great schlock. I know you don't watch movies but check it out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LOLIAmAnAlt 10/05/20 1:26:23 PM #32:	Mars Attacks is a classic. Never understood the critics hate. Granted, I have not seen it in a very long time. So maybe that was just the kid in me. --- lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll <cite>LOLIAmAnAlt posted [p:945483427] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Mars Attacks is a classic. Never understood the critics hate. Granted, I have not seen it in a very long time. So maybe that was just the kid in me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 10/05/20 1:34:25 PM #33:	Mars Attacks! is an eminently forgettable movie. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:945483751] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Mars Attacks! is an eminently forgettable movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 10/05/20 1:37:20 PM #34:	I dont even really think of Mars Attacks as part of his shtick, to be honest. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:945483852] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>I dont even really think of Mars Attacks as part of his shtick, to be honest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 10/05/20 1:38:04 PM #35:	What is his shtick, exactly? --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:945483888] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>What is his shtick, exactly? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CasanovaZelos 10/05/20 1:42:16 PM #36:	redrocket posted... What is his shtick, exactly? Gothic whimsy? --- My top 100 games (with write-ups): https://foolfantastic.com/top-100-video-games-project/ <cite>CasanovaZelos posted [p:945484033] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>redrocket posted... </cite> <quote>What is his shtick, exactly?</quote> Gothic whimsy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 10/05/20 1:42:48 PM #37:	He's using shtick wrong, anyways. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:945484061] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>He's using shtick wrong, anyways. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 10/05/20 2:05:11 PM #38:	Absolutely blown away by Charlie defense here. What a horrible, worthless insult to the original. --- ACAB <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:945484912] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely blown away by Charlie defense here. What a horrible, worthless insult to the original. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 10/05/20 2:20:13 PM #39:	UshiromiyaEva posted... Absolutely blown away by Charlie defense here. What a horrible, worthless insult to the original. <unpopular opinion> The original wasn't that good. </unpopular opinion> --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:945485408] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote>Absolutely blown away by Charlie defense here. What a horrible, worthless insult to the original.</quote> <unpopular opinion> The original wasn't that good. </unpopular opinion> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 10/05/20 2:27:21 PM #40:	His Alice in Wonderland movies were fine, they suited his style well. They're just also not terribly interesting. Dark Shadows is a worse version of this where I didn't even find it particularly charming and it was just Burton spinning his wheels. Alice is at least carried by the source material. Charlie and the Chocolate factory though. Oof. That one was almost a fine alternative take but then it just absolutely fucks everything up towards the end. --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:945485653] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>His Alice in Wonderland movies were fine, they suited his style well. They're just also not terribly interesting. Dark Shadows is a worse version of this where I didn't even find it particularly charming and it was just Burton spinning his wheels. Alice is at least carried by the source material. Charlie and the Chocolate factory though. Oof. That one was almost a fine alternative take but then it just absolutely fucks everything up towards the end. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 10/05/20 4:21:34 PM #41:	Aecioo posted... Mars Attacks! is great schlock. I know you don't watch movies but check it out. I watched a lot of movies last month! And one already this month too. --- Anyone who thinks Rey is a Mary Sue is effectively a misogynist. <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:945490106] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Aecioo posted... </cite> <quote>Mars Attacks! is great schlock. I know you don't watch movies but check it out.</quote> I watched a lot of movies last month! And one already this month too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 10/05/20 4:22:11 PM #42:	Ashethan posted... Batman Returns. Wasn't a fan when I saw it. Maybe I should give it a re-watch? --- Anyone who thinks Rey is a Mary Sue is effectively a misogynist. <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:945490125] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>Ashethan posted... </cite> <quote>Batman Returns.</quote> Wasn't a fan when I saw it. Maybe I should give it a re-watch? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
turbopuns3 10/05/20 5:00:44 PM #43:	GOOD MORNING STARSHlNE THE EARTH SAYS HELLO <cite>turbopuns3 posted [p:945491586] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>GOOD MORNING STARSHlNE THE EARTH SAYS HELLO </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MawiIe 10/05/20 6:54:24 PM #44:	scarletspeed7 posted... He's using shtick wrong, anyways. literally everyone (including yourself) understands what he's saying --- SantaRPG: Turning "i"s into "l"s since 2008! https://imgur.com/c9koh <cite>MawiIe posted [p:945495991] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>scarletspeed7 posted... </cite> <quote>He's using shtick wrong, anyways.</quote> literally everyone (including yourself) understands what he's saying </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 10/05/20 7:12:14 PM #45:	that's just scarlet's shtick --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:945496653] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>that's just scarlet's shtick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
crazyisgood 10/05/20 9:38:04 PM #46:	How many of you have read the book charlie and the chocolate factory --- Best RPG Boss Battle Bracket Nominations https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/220-rpgs-everything-else/75722929 <cite>crazyisgood posted [p:945502600] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>How many of you have read the book charlie and the chocolate factory </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 10/05/20 11:27:28 PM #47:	What the heck? Sweeney Todd was after Charlie? Okay I love Sweeney Todd also so much but Charlie was still trash. <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:945506734] in What was t... [t:79019446]...</cite> <quote>What the heck? Sweeney Todd was after Charlie? Okay I love Sweeney Todd also so much but Charlie was still trash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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