Poll of the Day > Proud Boys are a dangerous 'white supremacist' group say US agencies

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/01/20 6:26:56 PM
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https://theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/01/proud-boys-white-supremacist-group-law-enforcement-agencies

The far-right Proud Boys group whom Donald Trump told to stand by during this weeks presidential debate is seen as a dangerous organization by law enforcement, according to leaked assessments of the organization from federal, state and local agencies.
Trumps refusal to condemn white supremacists during the debate, and his suggestion that the Proud Boys stand by during the current 2020 election campaign sent shockwaves through American politics. The Southern Poverty Law Center calls the Proud Boys a hate group.
Files from the Blueleaks trove of leaked law enforcement documents reveal warnings that the Proud Boys, who some of the US agencies label as white supremacists and extremists, and others as a gang, show persistent concerns about the groups menace to minority groups and even police officers, and its dissemination of dangerous conspiracy theories.
Repeated warnings about the Proud Boys, and descriptions of them as a dangerous white supremacist group, were issued by members of the national network of counter-terrorist fusion centers. The Colorado Information Analysis Center(CIAC) showed particular, repeated concerns about the group, and their activities in that state.
In a 22-page 2019 document titled Violent Extremism in Colorado: a Reference Guide for Law Enforcement, published by CIAC, the states division of homeland security, and the Colorado department of public safety, various incidents of violence involving the Proud Boys are discussed under the heading of White Supremacist Extremism.
On page 15 of the document, the group is discussed in terms of the threat to Colorado from white supremacist extremists, and the concern that white supremacist extremists will continue attacking members of the community who threaten their belief of Caucasian superiority.
In illustrating this threat, the document reports on local members of the neo-Nazi group Atomwaffen Division, and Charlottesvilles deadly Unite the Right rally, but also offers that there have been several incidents in Colorado between the Proud Boys and Rocky Mountain Antifa, to include violent clashes at protests, and two members of the Proud Boys were convicted of assaulting Antifa members during a 2018 fight in New York.
Two pages later, the same document incorporates the Proud Boys, along with Atomwaffen, the Soldiers of Odin, and skinhead groups such as the Hammerskins in a list titled White Supremacist Groups with a Presence in Colorado.
Later, CIAC pointed to the group as a source of Covid-19 conspiracy theories. On 10 May this year, in a bulletin on Covid-19 Protest Disinformation Campaigns, CIAC described how the Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group, has been active in spreading conspiracy theories regarding Covid-19 on Twitter, Facebook, and Telegram, suggesting that a faction of elites are weaponizing the virus, and a vaccine would likely be a tool for population control and mind control.
The bulletin also warns that spread of disinformation has the potential to cause civil unrest and mass panic.
Agencies have defined the Proud Boys as a threat throughout most of their active existence.
As early as August 2018, a brief from another fusion center, the Northern California Regional Intelligence Center (NCRIC), summarizes a report of rightwing groups gathering weapons before a rally. The basis for the warning is a July call from a named man to the Berkeley police department, expressing concern about someone who he knew who is allegedly a member of the right-wing group called Proud Boys who is gathering masks, helmets, and guns and would have absolute war with the liberals at an event scheduled to take place in Berkeley on August 5, 2018.
A much-heralded Say No to Marxism rally was held in the city that day, and saw the Proud Boys and their allies outnumbered by counter-protesters.
Mike Sena, executive director of NCRIC, told the Guardian that everyones absolutely entitled to their freedom of speech, but that violence is a crime, and that this kind of intelligence was passed to partners when people mention the possibility of going to an event with weapons.
In 2019, the Texas-based fusion center, the Austin Regional Intelligence Center, warned in a Special Event Threat Assessment of potential dangers to the Austin Pride Parade.
It identified the Proud Boys as being associated with a growing backlash against Pride Month [which] has emerged in the form of the Straight Pride movement, noting that on 28 June 2019, a Trans Pride parade event in Seattle, Washington was disrupted by the alt-right Proud Boys organization.
There is also evidence of concern about the group from local agencies, some of whom define the Proud Boys as a gang.
In 2019, a flyer from the Orange county, California, probation department advertised a One Day Law Enforcement Training day covering white gangs.
In one session of the training day on 19 April, the flyer said, two probation officers would delve into ideological groups including KKK in Orange county as well as other hate groups/gangs including RAM (Rise Above Movement), Proud Boys, Traditionalist Workers Party, Hammerskins, WAR, and cover Antifa and sovereign citizens.

I love how Trumps defense now is that he never even heard of them. Which, even if it were true, would show that he doesnt listen to his intelligence briefings about major domestic terrorism trends.

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Mead
10/01/20 6:32:34 PM
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Theyre literally a terrorist group

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Smarkil
10/01/20 6:40:37 PM
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proud boys is an idea, not an organization

they're just proud of being boys, its right there in the name

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/01/20 6:41:22 PM
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Mead posted...
Theyre literally a terrorist group
Yup. But the gullible like Zeus will continue defending them like a rabid animal and spread the infodemic about Antifa.

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Locke90
10/01/20 6:41:48 PM
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yet ironically they have members from all groups...

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/01/20 6:46:06 PM
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Locke90 posted...
yet ironically they have members from all groups...
You have statistics on the numbers on their membership? That aside theres morons of every race. I cant explain my fellow African Americans that will vote Republican this year.

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Mead
10/01/20 6:49:50 PM
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Locke90 posted...
yet ironically they have members from all groups...

I dont think you know what irony means

and theyre literally a predominantly white male group, they even describe themselves as such

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Lokarin
10/01/20 6:51:57 PM
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Mead posted...
I dont think you know what irony means

and theyre literally a predominantly white male group, they even describe themselves as such

I think there may have been a miscommunications... I miscommunicate often enough I'm beginning to spot it in others

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Wanded
10/01/20 6:59:57 PM
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You clearly don't know who the proud boys are either so i don't think you're in a position to criticize trump

The proud boys founder Gavin Mcinnes is also the co founder of VICE news, he quit the group and the one who took the reigns is a black cuban man (such white very supremacist) named Enrique Tarrio who said he is against racism and people of all races and creeds are welcome to join their group which indeed consists of many minorities as well

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/10/01/proud-boys-chairman-condemns-white-supremacists-says-trumps-message-of-stand-by-wasnt-call-to-action/

even leftist propaganda outlet CNN said the proud boys aren't a white supremacist group, they also did this

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/proud-boys-leader-latinos-for-trump/index.html

All of this said, they are indeed a violent group, their founding and purpose was to counter act the violence coming from left wing groups such as antifa so they're kind of a political fight club lol

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Blightzkrieg
10/01/20 7:01:13 PM
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This has been known for years.

It's insane how Trump can literally drag the dialogue backwards in time. In four more years they'll be struggling to get Trump to condemn the KKK.

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Wanded
10/01/20 7:02:21 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
This has been known for years.

It's insane how Trump can literally drag the dialogue backwards in time. In four more years they'll be struggling to get Trump to condemn the KKK.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/79010936

you're 4 years too late

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/01/20 7:06:51 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
This has been known for years.

It's insane how Trump can literally drag the dialogue backwards in time. In four more years they'll be struggling to get Trump to condemn the KKK.
Its because the gullible gobble it up. And hell never condemn it directly. Hes afraid of the statement hurting his voters.

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Wanded
10/01/20 7:07:11 PM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Its because the gullible gobble it up. And hell never condemn it directly. Hes afraid of the statement hurting his voters.
I know you like living in your liberal hive mind bubble but...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/79010936

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/01/20 7:09:18 PM
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Wanded posted...
I know you like living in your liberal hive mind bubble but...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/79010936
proud boys, stand by.

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WhiskeyDisk
10/01/20 7:10:44 PM
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Proud Boys is just a white man's Abaqu.

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Wanded
10/01/20 7:13:05 PM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
proud boys, stand by.

Wanded posted... You clearly don't know who the proud boys are either so i don't think you're in a position to criticize trump

The proud boys founder Gavin Mcinnes is also the co founder of VICE news, he quit the group and the one who took the reigns is a black cuban man (such white very supremacist) named Enrique Tarrio who said he is against racism and people of all races and creeds are welcome to join their group which indeed consists of many minorities as well

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/10/01/proud-boys-chairman-condemns-white-supremacists-says-trumps-message-of-stand-by-wasnt-call-to-action/

even leftist propaganda outlet CNN said the proud boys aren't a white supremacist group, they also did this

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/proud-boys-leader-latinos-for-trump/index.html

All of this said, they are indeed a violent group, their founding and purpose was to counter act the violence coming from left wing groups such as antifa so they're kind of a political fight club lol



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Lokarin
10/01/20 7:13:35 PM
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Gavin also did Rebel Media... the Canadian Fox

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